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Do The Wings Need A ‘Fighter’?

from Gregg Krupa of the Detroit News,

But the Red Wings rarely fight.

They are dead last in the NHL. The Rangers, who lead the league, fight 543 percent more often than the Wings — 38-7. The next lowest-ranked teams, the Canadiens (11) and Coyotes (11), fight 57 percent more than the Wings.

Two of the biggest criticisms of the Red Wings’ roster over the years are their comparative smallness and lack of combatants. Some critics even assert that the lack of fighting stands between the Red Wings and a Stanley Cup.

But from players, to coaches to management, the Wings say they are little concerned. They believe they can play anyone and win, including the top fighting teams and physical teams in the league.

So do not look for the acquisition of an enforcer in the coming weeks, as the Wings seek to improve their shot at a 12th championship.

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Primis's avatar

No.  They do need a pest/energy guy though…

Posted by Primis on 01/30/12 at 02:44 PM ET

Keyser S.'s avatar

What they really need is a scorer who’s going to score goals at will and a goalie who will stop every single shot every single game. Then the cup is ours!

Posted by Keyser S. on 01/30/12 at 02:54 PM ET

bezukov's avatar

I don’t know if the Wings need an enforcer so much as they need more grit, you know, people who don’t care too much for being emasculated by the likes of the Canadiens or any other bottom feeder.

What I am saying is they need Draper and Maltby circa 1997 back in the lineup.

Posted by bezukov from the kids are alright. on 01/30/12 at 03:12 PM ET

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What I am saying is they need Draper and Maltby circa 1997 back in the lineup.

Or Dallas Drake circa 2008.

Posted by BuzzFledderjohn on 01/30/12 at 03:26 PM ET

SYF's avatar

Just need a grittier edge in their play.  Quit looking for the pretty plays.  The ugly goals counts just as much.

Posted by SYF from the team that re-signed KFQ and DFC by KFH on 01/30/12 at 03:59 PM ET

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Yeah the idea that Detroit needs a goon is silly. However adding a player who can actually play well AND fight would be amazing.

During the playoffs, every team’s method of operation seems to be to head hunt the Wings. If you’re PHX it backfires on you because you don’t have the scoring touch to make it effective. If you’re SJ and have McClellan (sp?) you’ll barely squeeze by two years in a row because you have offensive talent.

A Shanahan type of player could be the difference maker for the Wings.

With that said, I’m fully confident in our current roster making a long playoff run. Howard has improved by leaps and bounds, and guys like Eaves, Helm, Miller and Abdelkader can provide grit at both ends of the ice.

Posted by LGRWeh on 01/30/12 at 04:04 PM ET

Nathan's avatar

No.

Posted by Nathan from the scoresheet! on 01/30/12 at 04:37 PM ET

WingsFanInBeanLand's avatar

Just need a grittier edge in their play.  Quit looking for the pretty plays.  The ugly goals counts just as much.

Posted by SYF from Dr. Ima Tearadikov’s “Office” on 01/30/12 at 12:59 PM ET

For evidence of this just look at the most recent game against the Blews.  That was a great game filled with that gritty edge.

No need for a fighter.  They have Jimmy Howard.

Posted by WingsFanInBeanLand from where free agents no longer dare. on 01/30/12 at 05:04 PM ET

SYF's avatar

For evidence of this just look at the most recent game against the Blews.  That was a great game filled with that gritty edge.

No need for a fighter.  They have Jimmy Howard.

Posted by WingsFanInBeanLand from Lidstrom’s head telling him 1 more year on 01/30/12 at 02:04 PM ET

Word.  When they want to, the Wings can play that game much more regularly but it’s not happening enough and it drives me nuts.

Posted by SYF from the team that re-signed KFQ and DFC by KFH on 01/30/12 at 05:21 PM ET

Primis's avatar

They don’t even need grit.  They need a pest.  They need what, of all people, Samuelsson used to bring come playoff time, where he’d chirp and facewash guys and opponents would lose their minds over him.

They have not had that since.

Posted by Primis on 01/30/12 at 05:22 PM ET

tuxedoTshirt's avatar

Samuelsson might be available.

Posted by tuxedoTshirt from the Home of the 1937 World Champions on 01/30/12 at 05:28 PM ET

J.J. from Kansas's avatar

Gosh, if only the first-place Red Wings had a guy to take himself and another worthless player off the ice for five minutes at a time.  They could be even firstier placier than they are now!

I agree with the concept of getting a pest. Spend more time trying to get teams to lose their composure so the enforcer PP can get to work (because while I have no numbers to back this up, it seems that Detroit’s PP does slightly better when they’re dealing against teams that have started taking stupid frustration penalties).

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 01/30/12 at 05:58 PM ET

The Hurricane's avatar

We need a Zetterberg that can score and a Franzen interested in adding to his mouth guard collection….and a rallying point (e.g. a threat from Lidstrom that if his team doesn’t win a cup he’s gone.)
Wings need hunger, and I hope they find it.

Posted by The Hurricane on 01/30/12 at 06:54 PM ET

scotts0's avatar

How about Sean Avery?  smile

Posted by scotts0 from New York on 01/30/12 at 07:18 PM ET

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???

Strange time to ask this question, considering the enforcer has all but disappeared this year. Shelley, Reeves, Parros, Westgarth, Jannsens, Boulton…did I miss anyone? Or are there only 6 of these left in the world’s top league?

I suppose swapping a Miller for a Gaustad wouldn’t hurt.

Posted by larry from pitt on 01/30/12 at 07:27 PM ET

Baroque's avatar

Gosh, if only the first-place Red Wings had a guy to take himself and another worthless player off the ice for five minutes at a time.  They could be even firstier placier than they are now!

But J.J. if they were firstier placier then they would have a larger lead and they would win every game by three goals at least. raspberry

Posted by Baroque from Michigan on 01/30/12 at 10:56 PM ET

HockeyTownTodd's avatar

In 2008, SC roster included McCarty and Downey.
In 2002, SC roster included McCarty and Avery.
just sayin’

Posted by HockeyTownTodd on 01/31/12 at 12:12 AM ET

tuxedoTshirt's avatar

did I miss anyone?

Colton Orr.  I think we are all share a little blame for that (right Burke?).

Posted by tuxedoTshirt from the Home of the 1937 World Champions on 01/31/12 at 12:23 AM ET

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Oops.  You meant guys still going.  I was confused cause even some of those guys were out of the lineup for a while.
You missed: Konopka (kills on draws), Staubitz (hits), Dorsett (guys got 8 goals)

Hordichuk seems to have come up a little short.

Posted by tuxedoTshirt from the Home of the 1937 World Champions on 01/31/12 at 05:20 AM ET

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