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from Open Ice Hitter at the StarPhoenix, -

Interesting how the sports news crews and broadcasters refer vaguely to Patrick Sharp’s wrist injury …. Avoiding the mention of Jiri Hudler’s name, or the fact the Detroit Red Wing worm smashed Sharp’s wrist with a vicious slash …. Where is this going ? Yup. TO Brendan Shanahan … ex Detroit Red Wing …. Hudler should have been set down for about 5 games for that slash. It says right in the NHL rules that you can’t be swinging your stick at people. Or in the rules for most teams, anyway. I am beginning to suspect that the Detroit Red Wings, and the refs, have a separate book for calling Detroit penalties …. You watch a Wings game, and how much stick work they are allowed to get away with, it looks pretty bad …. Is it because they don’t dress a goon, because they have such a heavy European flavor, with big name European superstars ? Sure looks that way …. This isn’t to detract from the fact that the Wings are a premier team. Mike Babcock is as good a coach as you will find, but he is maybe overlooked for his contribution because he stepped in and kept the Wings amongst the top teams in the league. It is what is expected in Detroit. Nik Lidstrom is a quiet and classy player, squeaky clean, Hall of Fame bound. But ….. you watch that team play. Watch close, and even Wing fans, be honest about what you see. A lot of worms and a lot of stickwork. Zetterberg is given a lot of leeway with his stick. Hudler was allowed to bust a guy’s wrist with a blatant slash viewed by two zebras. When he was still playing, Kris Draper had an episode of spearing and stick swinging in Phoenix that would have gotten the likes of Dan Carcillo or Andy Sutton banned for life ….. As for Nik Kronwall, he goes airborne a lot, targeting players heads, and is never held accountable by the league.

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FYI, Open Ice Hitter actually sent me the heads-up on this, guess he wanted some opinions on the piece…

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Riviera's avatar

This is just first-rate horse shit.

Posted by Riviera from Phoenix on 02/05/12 at 05:52 PM ET

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I guess this is what hockey bloggers in Phoenix have to resort to writing about when they can’t celebrate their team’s accomplishments.

Posted by redxblack from Akron Ohio on 02/05/12 at 05:53 PM ET

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RB, Paper comes out of Saskatchewan.

Posted by Paul from Motown Area on 02/05/12 at 05:57 PM ET

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Thanks for the laugh!

cool smile

Posted by MsRedWinger from Flori-duh on 02/05/12 at 06:01 PM ET

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Are all people in Saskatchewan this unintelligent?  Or is it just this guy?

Yup.  Shanahan sure cut Brendan Smith some real slack with that 8-game suspension for a hit that’s since been getting guys 3 or 4 games max.

Posted by Primis on 02/05/12 at 06:02 PM ET

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oh my god, here it comes. knew this was going to happen

Posted by testgrenade on 02/05/12 at 06:06 PM ET

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Still complaining about the supposed Hudler slash?  Let it go already.

Posted by SolidTG7 on 02/05/12 at 06:09 PM ET

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Also remind me the last time a player got a suspension for a slash not named Marty McSorley.

Posted by SolidTG7 on 02/05/12 at 06:11 PM ET

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Guys’ a surefire hall-of-famer and this supposedly knowledgeable writer can’t spell Nick Lidstrom’s name right?

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 02/05/12 at 06:11 PM ET

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You sir, a hypocrite, first order. Ask Nick Lidstrom about Patrick Sharp and his stick-work.

Posted by mrfluffy from A wide spot on I-90 in Montana on 02/05/12 at 06:12 PM ET

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Worms? Really?

I wonder if he’s ever seen Zetterberg take 3, 4 or 5 crosschecks to the lower back, especially when it’s widely known that Zetterberg has a history of back injuries?

I wonder if he’s ever seen Tomas Holmstrom take crosschecks, slashes, punches to the back of his head after virtually every whistle with nothing getting called? it says right in those same NHL rules that those are penalties.

Kronwall leaves his feet, blah, blah, blah. The difference, sir, is that he’s more recently leading with his butt, not his shoulder or elbow.

I won’t even address the idiotic comparison to Daniel Carcillo…

Posted by socalwingnut on 02/05/12 at 06:14 PM ET

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Still hilarious how nobody ever mentions in that same game how Toews went after Datsyuk 50 feet from the puck soley to hurt him and succeeded.  Never a peep about that, but Hudler tries to disrupt a shot, catches Sharp’s wrist, and now he’s a goon who deserved a 5 game suspension?  Slashes like that happen all the time.  Did he deserve a minor penalty?  Of course, although since Sharp scored right afterward even that’s a moot point.  Not to mention, Sharp is the same guy who speared Nick in the sack in 2009 and didn’t get a penalty or a suspension, but yeah, poot Patty.

Posted by John W. from a bubble wrap cocoon on 02/05/12 at 06:16 PM ET

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Show us on this doll please where the Red Wings touched you.

Good Lord.

Posted by Valek from Chicago on 02/05/12 at 06:21 PM ET

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Just another troll writer hoping to garner clicks by talking shit about one of the league’s most popular franchises.

No way I’m clicking through to read more.

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 02/05/12 at 06:24 PM ET

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Hmphhh!  What a putz!  I will let Hudler take a swing at my wrist with a two bit ax as hard as he hit Sharp’s wrist.  I might be able to find the mark.  The guy with the clown mustache just whines and bitches even though he employed the one guy left in hockey who actually goes out with the intent to hurt the opponents.  That guy is now out with injury.

I guess anyone with the money to buy a computer and a site host can put out a blog.

Doc

Posted by DocF from Now: Lynn Haven, FL; was Reidsville, NC on 02/05/12 at 06:26 PM ET

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Just another troll writer hoping to garner clicks by talking shit about one of the league’s most popular franchises.

No way I’m clicking through to read more.

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 02/05/12 at 04:24 PM ET

Yep.  What a fuching horseshit writer looking for webclicks.

Posted by SYF from The Revenge of Johnny E on 02/05/12 at 06:30 PM ET

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....Kris Draper had an episode of spearing and stick swinging in Phoenix…??????...

I guess my red wings bias has blocked this episode from my memory.

Posted by Down River Dan on 02/05/12 at 06:35 PM ET

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Ok buddy, everytime Kronwall “Kronwall’s” someone, the play gets sent to the league. EVERYTIME. So if he were hitting some guy in the head with his elbow or leaving his feet BEFORE impact, then he would be suspended. But he isn’t, ever. This is hockey, people get hit, put your big girl panties on and stop whining. Every team cheats some to get an edge, ever team does things that break the rules a bit, most do not get caught, seen or called, or there would be 20 power-plays for each team every game. I wish our team were a big bunch of goons like you describe, then we wouldn’t have to worry about players running Datsyuk and Lidstrom (Backes) or Howard (countless other players.)

Posted by Leftwinger from Detroit, MI on 02/05/12 at 06:41 PM ET

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I don’t think the wings get away with more “stickwork” than any other team. Penalties are way down this year from previous seasons. However the redwings get away with way more interference and picks than any other team I watch. Wings fans can’t deny that. If u do,  u probably don’t watch teams other than the wings. Especially on dump ins, their d can do anything beside bearhug and vet away with it…thats the truth

Posted by JT from pa on 02/05/12 at 06:44 PM ET

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FYI, Open Ice Hitter actually sent me the heads-up on this, guess he wanted some opinions on the piece…

This just proves he knew this site has a large Red Wings following and wanted to troll for hits.

Posted by John W. from a bubble wrap cocoon on 02/05/12 at 06:46 PM ET

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Open Ice Hitter is now on the same shelf that I keep PuckDaddy, (i.e. websites I refuse to visit our of pure principle). 

This is nothing more than a try at baiting Wings fans.  Get a life sir.

Posted by bezukov from the kids are alright. on 02/05/12 at 06:46 PM ET

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  However the redwings get away with way more interference and picks than any other team I watch. Wings fans can’t deny that. If u do,  u probably don’t watch teams other than the wings. Especially on dump ins, their d can do anything beside bearhug and vet away with it…thats the truth

Detroit is 13th in the league for times shorthanded. Our D-men interfere just as much as the rest of the league on dump-ins and get away with it no more and no less. Anything besides bearhug? Have you not seen the countless muffed penalty shot calls that have gone the other teams way? i.e. Towes after Lids legally stick checked him. It is true Detroit is among the best at throwing picks through each zone however this is not illegal as the pick is done by gaining correct body positioning.

Posted by mike on 02/05/12 at 07:05 PM ET

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I almost puked when I read this garbage.  Thought it was a joke at first.

Posted by bigdee89 from The Great White North Eh? on 02/05/12 at 07:15 PM ET

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LMMFAO

It’s shit like this that makes me LOVE being a Wings fan.  The psychological trauma this organization inflicts by it’s mere existence is outstanding in it’s mildest sentiment.

LGRW

Let’s eat some dog.

Posted by HockeytownOverhaul on 02/05/12 at 07:27 PM ET

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I actually find it funny that everyone says Detroit gets away with so much interference and obstruction as they’re tied for third in the league in interference minors, and actually have more combined hooking, holding, and interference minors than any other team in the league.

Yep, the league wide conspiracy of refereeing favoritism towards the Wings is blown wide open.  rolleyes

Posted by Valek from Chicago on 02/05/12 at 08:03 PM ET

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No way I’m clicking through to read more.

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 02/05/12 at 04:24 PM ET

Word

Posted by Rdwings28 on 02/05/12 at 08:06 PM ET

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That blurb reads like Eddie Olczyk’s colour commentary on every NBC Wings-Hawks game.

Posted by John W. from a bubble wrap cocoon on 02/05/12 at 08:51 PM ET

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Someone needs to tell this guy the definition of “ellipsis” and the proper use thereof.

Posted by Doug S from Dearborn Heights on 02/05/12 at 09:42 PM ET

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I seem to recall Sharp scored on the play and came out for a number of shifts after the alleged slash. He did not leave the game until after he fell on the ice, much like Pavel Datsyuk last year, when he broke some bones in his hand/wrist.

Posted by TheRealYooper from within sight of the edge of the Earth. on 02/05/12 at 11:06 PM ET

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I seem to recall Sharp scored on the play and came out for a number of shifts after the alleged slash. He did not leave the game until after he fell on the ice, much like Pavel Datsyuk last year, when he broke some bones in his hand/wrist.

Posted by TheRealYooper from within sight of the edge of the Earth. on 02/05/12 at 09:06 PM ET

Why are you trying to confuse everyone with facts?  Seriously, Hudler almost killed Sharp that game.

Posted by Valek from Chicago on 02/05/12 at 11:28 PM ET

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Winning breeds contempt and that is just what this guy has for the Wings, but at least I got a good laugh from his rant.  This guy is just a few fries short of a happy meal in my opinion and should maybe go back to finger painting as he won’t get anywhere with his writing.

Posted by AzWingsFan on 02/06/12 at 03:25 AM ET

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Posted by SolidTG7 on 02/05/12 at 04:09 PM ET

Gawd! For a minute there I thought I was reading posts I don’t remember posting.

I guess it’s time for me to find a new avatar…

Posted by SnLO from beyond the M-1 on 02/06/12 at 03:27 AM ET

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This person seems to come from a land with punctuation issues.

Posted by Hippy Dave from Portland by way of Detroit on 02/06/12 at 04:06 AM ET

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That blurb reads like Eddie Olczyk’s colour commentary on every NBC Wings-Hawks game.

Posted by John W. from a bubble wrap cocoon on 02/05/12 at 06:51 PM ET

  Ha! Ha! This is classic and i couldn’t agree more. I think that dear old Eddie has a personal problem with the Red Wings. For several years he “complemented” the Wings as being the best cheaters on face offs in the league during EVERY SINGLE broadcast he did. Then he would trot out video examples of these supposedly egregious acts. IMO that led directly to an increase in the “sensitivity” of the linesman in the face off circle with the Wings. Now its a rarity when a Wing DOESN’T get thrown out of the circle.

 

 

 

 

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Posted by From The Hockey Wastelands from Cleveland on 02/06/12 at 04:13 AM ET

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Ha! That’s adorable.

Posted by cowboycoffee from San Francisco, CA on 02/06/12 at 06:58 AM ET

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Posted by JT from pa on 02/05/12 at 04:44 PM ET

Well, as has been pointed out, the Wings, while one of the least penalized teams overall, are one of the teams most penalized for interference and obstruction-type penalties.

But I will agree with you to a point, JT. I think ANY team that plays a quality brand of puck possession hockey is going to inherently get away with more interference, especially the types of “pick and roll” plays you are describing. When you have the puck and win a lot of face-offs, you can dictate the pace and flow of the game. When the Pens are at full-strength (in terms of injuries), they are as good as anyone in the game at this type of hockey. Chicago is excellent at it. Vancouver’s top two lines are as good as any in the game in this respect.

The Wings definitely do it the most and thus get away with it the most, on account of the fact it is a system that has been… for lack of a better word, systematically ingrained in the every player in the entire organization since Scotty Bowman took over in the early ‘90s.

Posted by Nathan from the scoresheet! on 02/06/12 at 10:53 AM ET

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“Vicious slash”? That phrase is right there a dead giveaway that he didn’t see the play.

Posted by Widmerpool on 02/06/12 at 01:34 PM ET

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I don’t even remember this incident.  This article is ranker than horse shit in a cabbage patch.  If the wings are worms then I guess the rest of then NHL is nothing but a snake pit.  I think the wings (in the regular season) are one of the least penalized teams in the league.  Where does this nonsense come from?

Posted by statelouis26 from Detroit, MI on 02/06/12 at 02:29 PM ET

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What a worm.

Posted by WingsFanInBeanLand from where free agents no longer dare. on 02/06/12 at 02:36 PM ET

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Posted by WingsFanInBeanLand from Lidstrom’s head telling him 1 more year on 02/06/12 at 12:36 PM ET

Needs more “Dune” reference…

Posted by RedMenace from the Church of Jesus Lashoff on 02/06/12 at 04:29 PM ET

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