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“Canadian Insecurity”

from Randal Wheeler of CBC,

Trolling the message boards of various sports websites, including CBC's, it's amazing to me how so many people in this country complain about NHL franchises in southern climes.

You know the old story: "Why the heck are there hockey teams in Florida, in Nashville in Phoenix, in Dallas? What's wrong with the NHL? Don't they know hockey is Canada’s game? Get rid of those southern U.S. teams and move 'em to Quebec or Hamilton or Saskatoon!" 

I couldn't believe that many people were that stupid!

Then I realized what it was: Canadian insecurity.

An American team has won the Stanley Cup for the last 20 years running. America has stolen part of our soul, our very identity, and damnit, we want it back!

Well, before you start putting a maple leaf on the back of every helmet in the NHL, prepare yourself for a letdown. 

Just because a team is in Canada does not necessarily guarantee its success. Years ago, the Winnipeg Jets and Quebec Nordiques moved south because they were going broke.

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Posted by Red Winger from Sault Ste Marie on 11/03/13 at 11:57 AM ET

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Then I realized what it was: Canadian insecurity.

How could this be, everyone knows there are more hockey fans in Yellowknife than in Phoenix?

Posted by timbits on 11/03/13 at 03:40 PM ET

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How could this be, everyone knows there are more hockey fans in Yellowknife than in Phoenix?

There most likely are.  What does that have to do with anything?

Posted by Garth on 11/03/13 at 06:34 PM ET

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How could this be, everyone knows there are more hockey fans in Yellowknife than in Phoenix?

There most likely are.  What does that have to do with anything?

Posted by Garth on 11/03/13 at 06:34 PM ET

Yellowknife doesn’t even boast 20,000 people in its population.  You *might* be able to fit the entire towns population in the arena and Glendale and still have empty seats.

Let’s see some numbers.  Otherwise stop with what you know are silly, indefensible positions related to this Canadian nantionalism “our game” notion.  You are the Brendan Smith of this topic, I swear, continually flailing wildly and never learning lessons from it.

Seriously, we’ll all gladly wait as you pull up data to support the notion that Yellowknife (which barely can support a couple major fast food chain locations), as a hockey market, could draw more fans than Phoenix, AZ.  *roll eyes*

 

Some Canadians don’t ever want to or plan to, but the truth is you *can’t* look at the NHL in terms of Canadian franchises and American franchises, for a variety of reasons.

There aren’t Canadian franchises, and there aren’t American franchises.  There are just NHL franchises.

The sooner people grasp that, the better.

The Stanley Cup, as a professional trophy anyways, never has been just Canada’s either.  US-based teams won 2 of the first 3 as an NHL title (NYR, then BOS), and 6 of the first 11 or 12 were American.  Between 1936 and 1944 a Canadian team won exactly one (1) Cup (TOR in 1942).  So while everyone just automatically thinks of Montreal and that their Cup victories = “Canadian” franchise dominance, that’s not necessarily the case.

And yet here we are in 2013, still trying to make this a “thing” with the franchises and markets themselves, even as their rosters are veritable melting pots form a number of continents.

Posted by Primis on 11/03/13 at 06:59 PM ET

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Canadians just want to have a better chance at watching our players.  The NHL is just over 50% Canadians, almost 25% US and 25% Other.

Just because the last Stanley Cup was 1993 for a Canadian team does’t mean much because of those US teams that won, most teams were made up of Canadians (except maybe 2008 Wings lol).

Anyways, you’re right about markets - they need to be sustainable before a franchise is put there.  I think more than anything southern markets are maddening to Canadians because no one cares about hockey in the deep south and they want the league to thrive.

Posted by bigdee89 from The Great White North Eh? on 11/03/13 at 07:21 PM ET

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Posted by Primis on 11/03/13 at 06:59 PM ET

Wow, you really bluster a lot, don’t you?  And through that whole little essay you wrote, you missed the point entirely.

You want to talk about data?  How about the data to support that I said “Yellowknife, as a hockey market, could draw more fans than Phoenix”, please.

I’ll wait while you do the research.

Posted by Garth on 11/04/13 at 09:22 AM ET

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