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Cameras In The Goal Posts

from Darren Dreger of the Dreger Report at TSN,

The National Hockey League is always looking for ways to improve its accuracy rate when it comes to ruling on controversial goals.

NHL Hockey Operations is expected to meet with a group in the near future that has designed a camera system that can be installed in the posts of the nets. This system may provide a more clear view of the goal line and by design may assist the league in determining - conclusively - whether or not the puck crosses the line.

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TreKronor's avatar

This system may provide a more clear view of the goal line and by design may assist the league in determining - conclusively - whether or not the puck crosses the line.

That’s great and all, but until they do away with the “Intent to Blow” and trying to save any reputation of ref’s, this is wasted money and technology.  It starts with changing the behavior and the mindset.

Posted by TreKronor on 11/20/13 at 02:49 PM ET

Down River Dan's avatar

Hey Slow Down NHL….

I have suggested exactly that for about 5 years now.

What’s the problem? Simply cut the backside of the crossbar, drill hole for lens, insert battery pack and wireless camera, replace cross bar piece,inststall reciever on glass behind net.

Would take about an hour tops!!

No, were much more comfortable with the camera mounted on the ceiling of the arena.

Posted by Down River Dan on 11/20/13 at 03:26 PM ET

Savage Henry's avatar

I think they’re making it too complicated.  Low-def cameras are ridiculously cheap these days.  There’s no reason there should be a dozen or so in every net, pointed at angles that guarantee multiple views of each section of the goal line.  This will catch a very high proportion of ‘inconclusive’ situations now, at a fraction of the cost of inventing a new technology.

Also: I agree that the ‘intent to blow’ problem is a bigger deal, but will probably never be addressed, since human problems are difficult, and technology is (relatively) easy.

Posted by Savage Henry on 11/20/13 at 03:50 PM ET

Savage Henry's avatar

correction: There’s no reason there shouldn’t be a dozen or so . . .

Posted by Savage Henry on 11/20/13 at 03:51 PM ET

Primis's avatar

Low-def cameras are ridiculously cheap these days.  There‚Äôs no reason there should be a dozen or so in every net, pointed at angles that guarantee multiple views of each section of the goal line.

Errrr.

While the cameras may be cheap as a one-time buy, the cost of bandwidth to pipe the feeds of them all to Toronto is *not*.

Imagine the 12 cameras per goal you suggested.  That’s 24 additional cameras, PER GAME.  On a night that might see 10 games, you’re talking about adding 240 streams to the War Room in Toronto.  Not only are you probably at least (conservatively) DOUBLING the cost of bandwidth OUT of every NHL arena, you then have to have the bandwidth in Toronto to handle potentially 360 MORE simultaneous streams if all 30 teams are in action.

And THEN, you probably need a 3rd spare net all rigged and ready to go should 1 of the 2 malfunction, which is more cost still.

I’m not poo-poohing a few more cameras but… big picture there are more challenges than you realize at first glance when you’re talking about video reviews.

Posted by Primis on 11/20/13 at 05:42 PM ET

Savage Henry's avatar

Understand your point, but bandwidth is cheap, and getting cheaper.  I’d be more worried about the manpower required to review in a timely manner. 

Regardless, consider the $$$ at stake with some of these calls.  A couple points can be the difference between a team making the playoffs or not, costing millions in revenue.  A couple of points can be the difference between having home ice or not in the playoffs (again, millions at stake).  A blown call in a playoff game can be the difference between a team advancing or not (more millions). 

I don’t think we can expect a ton of improvement in the on-ice officials, they’re already pretty good.  The area where there are gains to be had is in tech.

Do I think they should spend all of those millions on tech?  No.  Should they spend significantly more than they do now?  Absolutely.  IMO, the quality of the officiating (measured in outcomes, I think the officials are human and overall do a pretty good job) hasn’t increased as fast as the speed of the play.  Expecting officials to get things 100% right (or even more than they do now) in real time is unreasonable.  It is, however, reasonable to expect things to be reviewed quickly, with a lot of different angles available to maximize the chance that a conclusive replay is available.

Posted by Savage Henry on 11/21/13 at 08:06 AM ET

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