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Brooks: Hawks no dynasty

The New York Post's Larry Brooks argues that the Chicago Blackhawks may be a dominant team, but are no dynasty:

The Blackhawks are a historically excellent team produced by a model hockey operation. Their three-in-six in the hard cap era is a noteworthy accomplishment. Sharp management is the constant linking this cap era with everything that came before it. That and Scotty Bowman, who keeps finding rings the way kids find Easter eggs.

But the rush to canonize these Blackhawks and include them with the dynastic Canadiens, Islanders and Oilers is foolish. Three-in-six is something, all right, but it isn’t four straight, five straight, four-in-five, or 19 straight series.

It’s the same as the Red Wings’ three-in-six from 1997-2002, better than the Devils’ three-in-nine from 1995-2003, one more than the Avalanche’s two-in-six from 1996-2001, and though those teams didn’t have to deal with the cap, they did have to deal with one another — and a perennially powerful Dallas team — at the top.

And I would take all of those teams over this Blackhawks squad in a fantasy tournament, just as I would take the Red Wings that went four-for-six from 1950-1955 in hypothetical all-time matchups.

It’s a double-edged blade. Just as the cap has made it more exponentially more difficult to keep a powerful team intact, it has also diluted the opposition. The bar just isn’t set as high. No great team, by the way, has ever faced less of a challenge than the five-time, 1956-60 champion Canadiens once Detroit ownership exiled Ted Lindsay in the summer of 1957.

Brooks continues...

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Heaton's avatar

Hah.  That’s like saying Yzerman isn’t an all-time great because he isn’t Gretzky.

Posted by Heaton on 06/20/15 at 11:33 PM ET

Royal Grand Exalted PooBah's avatar

But all time greats are measured by what Gretzky accomplished so it is relevant. I don’t think anyone is saying they are bad just that they don’t quite measure up to the way the term has been used in the past yet.

Posted by Royal Grand Exalted PooBah from the basement of the Alamo on 06/21/15 at 02:40 AM ET

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I can see his point. The Hawks competition is the worst it’s ever been. More parity means nobody is as good as the top used to be. The Hawks are good, but I can see saying they aren’t great like dynasties of the past.

Posted by teldar on 06/21/15 at 08:06 AM ET

Hank Scorpio's avatar

It’s not like the 97 - 02 Wings faced stiff competition in any of their Cup finals, but they did have to run though the murderer’s row of either Colorado or Dallas every year.  I’m not sure how that isn’t comparable to Chicago having to get by Los Angeles or Anaheim. I say this as a Wings fan.

Frankly, seeing what Chicago has done from 2010 to now makes me think the 97 - 02 Wings underachieved.  Here’s the comparison:

Wings:

97:  Cup (over a weak Philadelphia)
98:  Cup (over a weak Washington)
99:  Second round (Avalanche)
00:  Second round (Avalanche)
01:  First round (Los Angeles)
02:  Cup (over a weak Carolina)

Chicago:

10:  Cup (over an overachieving Philadelphia team)
11:  First round (Vancouver)
12:  First round (Phoenix)
13:  Cup (over a good Bruins team)
14:  Third round (Los Angeles in 7)
15:  Cup (over a good Tampa team)

That 99 - 01 stretch for the Wings still is a disappointment.  I personally don’t think the Chicago comparison is as near a disappointment. Them winning the Cup in 2010 was an outlier (super young stars and a crappy Finals opponent). Building themselves into a consistent contender starting in 2013 has been the real impressive feat.  I’ll be interested to see if they can sustain it.  We put together a great three year run (2007 - 2009) before slowly falling off the ledge. 

And, by the way, I freakin’ hate the Blackhawks with a burning passion.  But, objectively, they’re really good.  They got lucky with that first Cup in 2010, but everything from 2013 onwards has been really, really impressive.

Posted by Hank Scorpio on 06/21/15 at 02:11 PM ET

bigfrog's avatar

They should have been eliminated by the Red Wings in 2013. mad

Posted by bigfrog on 06/21/15 at 04:19 PM ET

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