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Brendan Smith Suspended For 12 Day By The AHL

SPRINGFIELD, Mass. … Grand Rapids Griffins defenseman Brendan Smith has been ruled ineligible to play in the AHL until Oct. 18, 2011. Smith was suspended by the National Hockey League for the remainder of the preseason plus five regular-season games for an illegal check to the head of an opponent during a game vs. Chicago on Sept. 28. According to the AHL’s by-laws, a player who is under suspension in another league or organization who seeks to play in the AHL while under that suspension will have the relevant disciplinary matter independently reviewed by the President of the American Hockey League, who may in his discretion deem the player ineligible.

Smith’s AHL eligibility does not affect the terms of his NHL suspension.

 

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How is the AHL suspension stiffer than the NHL’s??

Posted by Jesters Dead on 10/06/11 at 06:36 PM ET

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How is the AHL suspension stiffer than the NHL’s??

Posted by Jesters Dead on 10/06/11 at 04:36 PM ET

It’s not. The Griffins’ schedule has them playing three games by the 18th.  The Wings play 4 by then (their 5th is on the 21st).

Since this one is based on a date and not by games, the Wings should call Smith off to at least burn off 4 of his 5 NHL games while he’s ineligible to play in either league.

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 10/06/11 at 06:40 PM ET

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this is pretty lame if I may say so.  I can see the AHL giving him 12 days or 5 games but for it not to count towards his NHL suspension is stupid.  It could turn into a 8 or more game suspension when all is said and done.  They should bring him up if they have a roster spot with commodore, cleary and mursak injured.

Posted by squirrely from Dirty Jersey on 10/06/11 at 06:52 PM ET

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If you let AHL games count toward an NHL suspension, then you get teams hiding goons in the minors to pass their problems down a level.  It’s kind of like hiding salary in the minors to become cap compliant.

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 10/06/11 at 06:55 PM ET

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but, the way it is, it’s kind of like double jeopardy where he will theoretically get suspended for around 10 games… for an offense which probably only deserved half of the original NHL suspension in the first place.

while your hiding goons point is valid, the rule is discretionary, meaning the AHL doesn’t HAVE to issue a suspension if it’s NOT in fact a goon being hidden, but rather a star defenseman who was obviously trying to make a shoulder check only to unfortunately miss.

Posted by perfection from LaLaLand on 10/06/11 at 07:59 PM ET

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I knew this was coming and the AHL has pretty consistently followed this policy. 

Troops, the days of hitting an opponent in the head and only the head are over.  It will be dealt with severely.  Learn to live with it. 

Smith’s hit was careless, not malicious.  Still, it was contact with the opponent’s head and was punished with a five game regular season suspension.  He will learn from this incident.

Doc

Posted by DocF from Now: Lynn Haven, FL; was Reidsville, NC on 10/06/11 at 08:08 PM ET

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They should bring him up if they have a roster spot with commodore, cleary and mursak injured.

Mursak is on LTIR and his spot was taken by Brunnstrom. Cleary is scheduled to play on Friday, and Commodore won’t be out long enough to be put on IR. So there’s no room to bring up Smith for even oe game.

...it’s kind of like double jeopardy where he will theoretically get suspended for around 10 games…

It’s not like double jeopardy. It is double jeopardy. Brendan got an NHL suspension for what happened in the NHL. The only relevance that suspension should have to the AHL is if Smith is up for disciplinary action for something he does in the AHL. Then they could, and should, use his prior history (in the NHL) as a factor in determining the severity of his punishment.

What they’re doing right now is punishing him in the AHL for not making the NHL roster. Then, when he does make that roster, he gets punished again. It makes absolutely no sense.

Posted by OlderThanChelios from Grand Rapids, MI on 10/06/11 at 08:15 PM ET

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while your hiding goons point is valid, the rule is discretionary, meaning the AHL doesn’t HAVE to issue a suspension if it’s NOT in fact a goon being hidden, but rather a star defenseman who was obviously trying to make a shoulder check only to unfortunately miss.

That’s true, but the AHL did decide in this case to use their discretion and make Smith ineligible to play until the 18th.  Under a rule change proposed by squirrelly, this would count toward his NHL suspension.

So teams would still hide goons knowing that the AHL would definitely suspend them and then their suspension times would count towards their NHL time served.

If the Wings don’t want him serving sentences that stack on top of one another, then they should do the smart thing and call him up to use Commodore’s roster spot until the 18th.  This will burn four of his five games while at the same time burning his AHL suspension.  Heck, they can keep him until the 21st to burn off the entire 5 games and then send him back to GR to play for the Griffins.

It’s only really a double-jeopardy issue if the Wings allow it to be.

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 10/06/11 at 08:18 PM ET

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Commodore won’t be out long enough to be put on IR. So there’s no room to bring up Smith for even oe game.

Short-term injured reserve is seven days.  (technically 14 days, since a player has to be hurt for a week before he can go on IR for another week, but Commodore fits that criteria).

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 10/06/11 at 08:51 PM ET

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Thanks JJ - for some reason I saw ‘12 games.’

There probably won’t be an easy way around this one for the Wings/Smith. Hopefully, the Wings will have a stretch during the season where he can be called up, serve his suspension, spend some time in the pro environment and then shipped back down, and then he should be ready to go when they really need him.

Posted by Jesters Dead on 10/06/11 at 09:04 PM ET

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It’s only really a double-jeopardy issue if the Wings allow it to be.

I’m going to go out on a limb here and suggest that Tick Tock and his staff know the rules. If they could bring Smith up because of Commodore’s injury, they would. They haven’t done that, so they must know something we don’t – hard as that may be to believe. smile

Posted by OlderThanChelios from Grand Rapids, MI on 10/06/11 at 09:38 PM ET

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well it’s not too late to make roster moves. Even if they don’t do it this way, there’s nothing in the rules that says they can’t.  Placing Commodore on stIR clears Commodore’s roster spot, but not his cap hit. Since the Wings have plenty of space, the cap hit isn’t the issue.

It’s entirely possible that the Wings are going to let him serve both to make sure that he understands the lesson that he’s supposed to be learning from this.

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 10/06/11 at 10:04 PM ET

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Does anyone know what happens if he isn’t called up at all this season?  Does he have to serve it next season?

Posted by Garth on 10/07/11 at 12:18 AM ET

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It’s entirely possible that the Wings are going to let him serve both to make sure that he understands the lesson that he’s supposed to be learning from this.

Or Commodore is ready to play earlier than seven days from now. Geez, give it a rest. I have a feeling Holland and his staff have a slightly better handle on this than you do, JJ. I know that’s a leap of faith on my part, but that’s my opinion and I’m stickin’ to it. smile

Posted by OlderThanChelios from Grand Rapids, MI on 10/07/11 at 02:20 AM ET

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Does anyone know what happens if he isn’t called up at all this season?  Does he have to serve it next season?

Smith has to serve his NHL suspension in the NHL regardless of when he makes his next appearance in the NHL. This season. Next season. It doesn’t make a difference. That’s what makes the added AHL suspension so ridiculous.

Posted by OlderThanChelios from Grand Rapids, MI on 10/07/11 at 02:23 AM ET

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With all due respect to Ken Holland, I’m going to want one of our diggers to ask him about this situation if they don’t end up calling up Smith to start serving his suspension.

I trust that he knows more about hockey than I do and that he’s a better GM than I could ever hope to be; that does not mean he’s above questioning.

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 10/07/11 at 02:36 AM ET

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I’m just going to leave this here.

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 10/08/11 at 12:04 PM ET

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