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Blues GM On The Recent Players He Lost Via Waivers

from the CP at CBC,

Since every other NHL team had a chance to sign Wellwood and Svatos when the Blues did, was it a faux pas for the Sharks and Predators to then claim them off waivers?

“I think you’re probably better to ask other GMs that right now than me,” said Armstrong. “It’s somewhat frustrating — these other teams have had an opportunity to go do the work and they deemed it not necessary to go out.

“They’ve taken advantage of the situation that’s given them.”

Armstrong says he didn’t receive a call from Sharks GM Doug Wilson before Wellwood was claimed. He did hear from Predators GM David Poile before Svatos was grabbed.

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I definitely feel for the Blues.  Without question, it’s a dick move to pick up a player someone else has done the work to sign.

Posted by mmuskrat on 01/18/11 at 09:04 PM ET

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He did hear from Predators GM David Poile before Svatos was grabbed.”

That’s not surprising, good stuff.

Posted by NathanBC on 01/18/11 at 09:21 PM ET

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Yeah…that has GOT to be frustrating.  I’d be livid if I were him.

Posted by Flashtastick56 from Meriden, CT on 01/18/11 at 09:45 PM ET

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Think it is time to change the rule, no?  Doesn’t seem like this version of vulturism is very “hockey-like”.

Posted by Unicorn Force from DC (but like everyone here, I'm not a local) on 01/18/11 at 10:37 PM ET

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Yes its a dick move to block your rival from bettering his team.WTF are you talking about?If they wanted them so bad they should have signed them before the season started.Now these other teams have spots to fill and two decent players come down the waiver wire and they pick them up.

Posted by bobnoakridge from Oak Ridge, TN on 01/18/11 at 10:38 PM ET

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If they wanted them so bad they should have signed them before the season started.

And if Nashville & San Jose wanted these players so bad why didn’t they sign them instead of picking them off the waiver wires?

Posted by Garth on 01/18/11 at 11:05 PM ET

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WTF are you talking about?If they wanted them so bad they should have signed them before the season started.

I think you don’t have an accurate picture of what has happened to St. Louis.  Here is a list of players that have spent significant time on the IR:

Andy MacDonald (last year’s leading scorer)
TJ Oshie (last year’s third leading scorer)
David Perron (last year’s fifth leading scorer)
Roman Polak (4th in total TOI for the team last year)

For a rebuilding team that isn’t blessed with a ton of depth, they are trying to fortify the team via the UFA market.  They realize that they could benefit from additional experienced players. 

The Devils have used 32 players this year (not including the goalie position).  The Blues, 31.  The Pens have used 25 while the Red Wings have used 24.  Considering that you have 18 skaters that dress every night and have a few scratches, that means that the Blues have basically traded in a complete set of new forwards.  That’s a dandy of a stat, especially considering that we are just past the mid-way point of the season.

Posted by Unicorn Force from DC (but like everyone here, I'm not a local) on 01/18/11 at 11:32 PM ET

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And if you bothered to read the entire story instead of what is posted above you would have seen that the Sharks picked Wellwood because of shortages on his team.Last time I looked the idea in sports was to beat the other team/guy.Not play nice and feel sorry for the other team.This isnt T-Ball its the NHL.Heres an idea sign guys that arent playing in Europe.As for why Nashville and San Jose didnt sign them sooner,they didnt need them in the off season or at the beginning of the season.

Posted by bobnoakridge from Oak Ridge, TN on 01/18/11 at 11:45 PM ET

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Clearly, you aren’t following…. buzzkill.

Posted by Unicorn Force from DC (but like everyone here, I'm not a local) on 01/18/11 at 11:56 PM ET

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As for why Nashville and San Jose didnt sign them sooner,they didnt need them in the off season or at the beginning of the season.

Wellwood was released from his contract over a week ago, why didn’t the Sharks sign him then?

Posted by Garth on 01/19/11 at 12:26 AM ET

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The rule is what the rule is… if GMs have a problem with it, they should take it up with their owners and the league, not bicker about each other.

What does he want, Wilson or Poile to send thank you notes? These are businesses for eff’s sake, and the moves the Sharks and Preds made were doubly worthwhile because they improved their clubs, even if only slightly, while keeping players off of close competition.

Posted by Nathan from the scoresheet! on 01/19/11 at 11:15 AM ET

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@Garth.Once again did you bother to read the entire story on the CBC site.The Sharks recently lost Clowe and Nichols has a suspension.They didnt need him last week.

@Nathan.Thanks,I thought I was beginning to think I was on a site dedicated to PeeWee hockey where they want them all to play evenly and get ice time.Maybe the NHL should have a mercy rule too.

Posted by bobnoakridge from Oak Ridge, TN on 01/19/11 at 11:20 AM ET

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Once again did you bother to read the entire story on the CBC site.The Sharks recently lost Clowe and Nichols has a suspension.They didnt need him last week.

Clowe was injured before St Louis signed him.  Why didn’t they sign Wellwood then?

And let’s not pretend Nichol figures into this AT ALL.  He’s gone for FOUR games.  When that happens you call someone up, you don’t sign someone for the entire rest of the season.

Thanks,I thought I was beginning to think I was on a site dedicated to PeeWee hockey where they want them all to play evenly and get ice time.Maybe the NHL should have a mercy rule too.

Right, and I’m starting to think that all NHL players should have spikes on their sticks to defend themselves.

Because that has about as much to do with the argument as a mercy rule does.

It’s not about being fair, it’s about signing a free agent.  Why are the rules for this type of waiver claim different from other waiver claims?  With a normal waiver claim the lowest team in the rankings gets the player, so to make sense shouldn’t St Louis get the player unless a lower-ranked team claimed him? And when Vancouver signed Dan Hamhuis why couldn’t San Jose just claim him off waivers?

I realize I’m a pussified faggot in your eyes because you refuse to look at another viewpoint and give it any credence whatsoever, but that’s something I can live with.

Posted by Garth on 01/19/11 at 12:18 PM ET

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