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Bernier Should Have Kept Quiet

from Tony Gallagher of the Vancouver Province,

Now that everyone knows that the L.A. Kings’ young goaltender Jonathan Bernier has requested a trade, he’s likely severely impacted his own less-than-spectacular trade value for more than the obvious reasons.

Not only has it been announced to one and all that he wants to leave, he’s also cast some aspersions on his own character by wanting to leave a championship team immediately after its success, because he can’t see himself playing enough behind Jonathan Quick.

It indicates he has no sense of patience or development. It indicates he wants to rush himself into a starting position, apparently for-getting that goaltenders now can play into their 40s if they keep themselves in great physical condition.

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This is a load of crap. Most people seem to agree he’s a starting quality goalie. How many first line centers are there out there who are healthy scratches or riding the pine because they have 4 other starters in front of them? He’s a good goalie who deserves a shot to get somewhere he can have an opportunity to make more money and play more.
He’s a cancer for an organization because he wants to play? Idiotic.

Posted by teldar on 07/13/12 at 11:17 AM ET

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Not only has it been announced to one and all that he wants to leave, he’s also cast some aspersions on his own character by wanting to leave a championship team immediately after its success, because he can’t see himself playing enough behind Jonathan Quick.

Right, it has nothing to do with Quick’s new 10 year deal.  Bernier wants to play, not ride pine.

Posted by drimo from Cincinnati, OH on 07/13/12 at 11:19 AM ET

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Trashing Bernier (unfairly) to pump Schneider’s tires.

Stay classy, Vancouver media.

Posted by Da lil Guy from Guelph, Ontario on 07/13/12 at 11:29 AM ET

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More like pumping Luongo’s tires since he seems to be the one jettisoned.

Posted by teldar on 07/13/12 at 11:39 AM ET

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Once there was serious thought on Quick being a long term contributor, there was no sensible manner in which LA could keep Bernier quiet, nor should they impede the growth and development of a highly touted future star.
Anyone who didn’t see this coming hasn’t been watching the NHL. It’s a business where everyone wants to the a starter, to contribute as much as they can and gain whatever piece of the pie they can…. not unlike any other business.
I commented on Yahoo about a month ago, just before Quick signed, that Bernier would be a great piece of someone else’s puzzle. At the time the Kings had a decision to make about resigning Zatkoff -he needed a contract or was going to walk. They let him go, Pens signed him - good deal for Pens and Zatkoff. Also in the pipeline is Martin Jones, who easily could take the backup spot behind Quick. Had the Kings been a little more savvy, they should have gotten out in front of the FA signings and put Bernier on the block, thus pushing his talent and cheap salary to the front of the line ahead of Lindback…. (though I really like Lindback in TB).
I don’t know enough about Bernier to say he’s better than the other young starters, or that he’s a good long term choice, but, for being as patient as he has been, finding out that he could have a 10 yr wait before he gets his chance, asking for a trade enables him to find some stability, gives the kings a break on the contract as Martin Jones is likely not getting near a million per year, and the cycle continues- drafted, ahl, nhl backup job, starting gig….. Bernier isn’t being unrealistic, nor is it necessarily a sign that he’s jumping ship too soon, or disloyal to the kings….

Best of luck with the deal… donno who will be in the race for him but had the Kings made him available before the FA rush, I am pretty sure they would have gotten a nice package back, now I think they’ll be lucky to.

Posted by Jay from Halifax, NS Canada on 07/13/12 at 11:57 AM ET

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I don’t think Bernier did anything different than what 99% of athletes do today. This is the state of sports in the 21st century. The me-first mentality permeates all sports and is indicative of our culture as a whole. It’s not really news. The Times, they are a-changing. Whether it’s wrong or right doesn’t really matter. Gallagher can fight against the world if he wants, but he won’t get anywhere…

Posted by TARNATION! Sports on 07/13/12 at 12:21 PM ET

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Well it only took the writer half the article to reveal the true motivation for his bashing on Bernier:

But even if all of this is true, they may decide to act just so as not to have a formally unhappy camper aboard to start the defence of their title. And if they do, he is likely to affect the market for Luongo, even though we’re talking proven apples and untried oranges.

There are quite a few falsities in this article.  The biggest two being that Bernier is not ready to be an NHL starter, and that the Kings don’t have an NHL backup ready to replace him.  Bernier was supposed to be the Kings “heir apparent” before Quick started dominating the league.  And the Kings have Martin Jones ready to replace Bernier in the backup role should they trade him.

All this author is really concerned with is how Bernier being on the market affects the market for Luongo, which was already thin thanks to his absurd contract and mediocre playoff history.

Bernier will get traded before Luongo, and both will get traded before the start of the regular season.

Posted by PaulB from California on 07/13/12 at 12:25 PM ET

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When other athletes want to perform they call it “drive”.  I swear the ms hockey media never fails to disappoint.

Posted by Wylie Times on 07/13/12 at 12:26 PM ET

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and that the Kings don’t have an NHL backup ready to replace him.  Bernier was supposed to be the Kings “heir apparent” before Quick started dominating the league.  And the Kings have Martin Jones ready to replace Bernier in the backup role should they trade him.


Posted by PaulB from California on 07/13/12 at 10:25 AM ET

Yeah I think it’s a bit of a leap at this stage to declare Jones ready to be backup.  I’d trust him for a game or two if Bernier was injured, but that’s about it.  Goalie Guild and most other observers suggest that he’s not ready yet, too.  I really think we need another year out of Bernier as backup in order to let Jones mature, at which point Berube and Gibson will hopefully be able to take over the reigns in Manchester.

Posted by shazam88 from SoCal on 07/13/12 at 01:03 PM ET

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Demanding a trade publicly rarely every helps the situation. I haven’t heard anything to indicate that LA won’t trade him, so I am not sure why he decides to go public to make it worse.

Posted by timbits on 07/13/12 at 01:25 PM ET

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This has no affect on the trade value for bernier. Anybody who thought bernier would remain a king after quick got his deal is covering their eyes. From the minute he was drafted, he was pegged as the franchise goalie. Everybody and their mother knew he wouldn’t be stayin. Nobody can say that he is selfish for wanting to be a starter and that’s next impossible with quick between the pipes in la for the next ten years. Wouldn’t you do the same in the same position?

Posted by statelouis26 from Detroit, MI on 07/13/12 at 02:56 PM ET

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@teldar - ...but Schneider is the one who patiently waited in the backup role - even after Luongo signed his big deal - as they seem to think Bernier should have done.

@timbits - Bernier has been touted as number one ready for three seasons. Even before the cup win, MVP, and big contract, it was becoming clear that Quick wasn’t budging. Quick’s started more than 60 games in all three of those seasons and once topped 70. Yet the Kings were content to keep Bernier on the pine (either because they wanted solid insurance or because they didn’t get the right offer). Making his desire to move public is an attempt to light a fire under the Kings to move him somewhere he can start. He’s been more than patient but this is a contract year for him and he needs to be able to show what he can do.

Posted by Da lil Guy from Guelph, Ontario on 07/13/12 at 03:16 PM ET

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It’s really not a revalation that he’s the number 2 there for just about eternity.  LA should have moved him a little earlier.  It’s their fault not his.

Posted by 13 user names on 07/13/12 at 04:40 PM ET

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Bernier has every right to complain.  He was brought in to be a future #1 and AFAIK he has done nothing to show otherwise.  However, his timing was horrible in that Quick came out of nowhere just ahead of him and got entrenched in the #1.

Truth is, Bernier probably was irked all season long, but didn’t say a word and… lo’ and behold he wasn’t a distraction and his team win a Cup.  Now that the season is done, and it’s not as much of a distraction, he speaks up.

Bernier won’t get his shot in LA barring a catastrophic injury to Quick that just kinda’ gives Bernier the reins for a season or something.  He’s going to need to be moved somewhere he can play.

I find it really dumb to criticize Bernier though.  I’d say he’s handled it fine so far.

Posted by Primis on 07/13/12 at 04:41 PM ET

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Also, this is just Dean Lombardi’s m.o.  He had the same situation in San Jose with Nabokov & Kiprusoff.  Eventually Kiprusoff ended up in Calgary.  And regarding Jones being ready, the Kings wouldn’t have let Zatkoff leave if Jones wasn’t ready.  I wouldn’t be surprised to see Zatkoff starting in the nhl within a year or so.

Posted by PaulB from California on 07/13/12 at 07:01 PM ET

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