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Bad Canadians?

from Cathal Kelly of the Toronto Star,

It’s a week after Canada left, and Buffalo is only now feeling safe enough to begin unboarding the windows and crawling out of the basement.

That’s the impression left in an out-of-left-field attack on Canadian honour by a columnist at the Buffalo News.

In purple tones, the piece – entitled “Disillusioned by Northern Neighbours” – paints Canadian fans as bunch of boozed-up hooligans who streamed over the border like the Visigoths advancing on Rome.

Among the damning criticisms: we don’t wait to turn right on red; we say “eh”; we like to take a drink; the Rogers Centre is ugly; we tip only two bucks on a $25 bar tab; someone punched someone else at a game.

Oh, Buffalo. We rescued your tournament from local apathy and crushing irrelevance and this is the thanks we get?

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I love it when American fans cry about Canadian fans, Canadian players, Canadian pundits.

It’s so sad that your country doesn’t give a flying *#$%@& about hockey, but it doesn’t mean you have to lash out at Canada simply because the entire country loves it.

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhh!!!!

Posted by Garth on 01/11/11 at 04:25 PM ET

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From the guy arrested for punching an American fan at the USA-Canada game, to the sea of red that adopted any team that the USA played, to the drunken red-clad louts at the New Year’s Eve ball drop (staggering, middle-aged, red-clad lady I saw clutching a half-empty bottle of vodka, this means you), to the legions of lousy tippers at bars and restaurants

So we’re bad because we don’t stand up to American bully assholes.

We’re bad because we cheer against the American team.

We’re bad because we drink.

And we’re bad because we don’t blindly reward awful service with a 30% tip.

I’m cool with that.

Posted by Garth on 01/11/11 at 04:29 PM ET

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Wow, if this is what warrants a column, sounds like Canada as a whole need a ^*&^&* hobby.

Get lives.

Posted by Primis on 01/11/11 at 04:30 PM ET

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Right, Canada needs a hobby.

Responding to a crybaby article in an AMERICAN newspaper.

Posted by Garth on 01/11/11 at 04:35 PM ET

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Donn Esmonde article that prompted this column by Cathal Kelly.

Happens in every major sporting event anywhere.  The Dutch bitched about the hooligans from the UK.  The Argentinians bitch about the Colombians.

Tired…

Posted by SYF from Alana Blanchard's Bikinis and Surfboards on 01/11/11 at 04:37 PM ET

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Responding to a write-up in a BUFFALO newspaper.

People in *Buffalo* don’t read it.

What kind of lame, sorry-a** journalist spends their time reading articles from a different city, in a different country, looking for something to get riled up over?

Oh sorry, my bad, apparently Toronto “journalists” do.

And then they wonder why everyone thinks Canadians have an inferiority complex.  Uhhh, maybe because of stuff like this?

I guess anything to distract from how miserable the Canadian NHL teams are yet once again…

Posted by Primis on 01/11/11 at 04:40 PM ET

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Posted by Primis on 01/11/11 at 02:40 PM ET

Right.  Well done.

I’m sure the journalist simply scours papers looking for shit to get riled up at.

Are you TRYING to look like a retard?

Obviously someone passed it on and Kelly decided to respond to it.

But you’re right.  Pathetic for someone to respond to these allegations, but it’s cool for some *#$%@& in Buffalo to write the crybaby article in the first place.

Ass.

Posted by Garth on 01/11/11 at 04:52 PM ET

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I’m just so glad that the junior team with the most heart won the WJC.

Posted by hockey1919 from mid-atlantic on 01/11/11 at 05:23 PM ET

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Canadians love Americans. But we are somewhat suspect about America (politics, foreign policy, gun laws).

Canada loves to beat America. But we will readily adopt a proud (very) American as one of our own (Ryan Kesler).

The entire country of Canada bleeds hockey. A small (very) minority of Americans like hockey.

Canada is America’s number one hockey nemesis. In everything else, we are an after-thought.

Canadian AND American journalists write trite articles to inflame base emotions and knee jerk responses from their readers.

Posted by blammo from Vancouver, BC on 01/11/11 at 05:28 PM ET

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What kind of lame, sorry-a** commenter on a Web forum spends their time reading articles from a different city, in a different country, looking for something to get riled up over?

Fixed it for ya, Primis.

Posted by dzuunmod on 01/11/11 at 05:36 PM ET

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Blame Canada
They’re not even a real country anyway
My son could’ve been a doctor or a lawyer rich and true,
Instead he burned up like a piggy on the barbecue
Should we blame the matches?
Should we blame the fire?
Or the doctors who allowed him to expire?
Heck no!
Blame Canada
Blame Canada
With all their hockey hullabaloo
And that bitch Anne Murray too
Blame Canada

Posted by blammo from Vancouver, BC on 01/11/11 at 05:42 PM ET

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Dumb article… both of ‘em, that is.

The entire country of Canada bleeds hockey. A small (very) minority of Americans like hockey.

Posted by blammo from Vancouver, BC on 01/11/11 at 03:28 PM ET

Canada’s population is 10% that of the United States.

Even if 75% of Canadians identify as hockey fans, the U.S. only needs roughly 7.5% of its population to identify as hockey fans to match.

I’m not denying hockey is “Canada’s game,” but let’s get real. There are just as many American hockey fans. Maybe not with the obsession (not meant as an insult) of Canadian fans, but the U.S. is an absolute necessity for North American professional hockey to be anything close to relevant.

Posted by Nathan from the scoresheet! on 01/11/11 at 05:52 PM ET

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Canadians in general think they know a lot about America, Americans in general think the little they know about Canada is true and somewhere in the middle lies reality.  I still recall that while living in Montreal during the Bernardo trial taking place in Toronto, how many Canadians were obsessed with the OJ Simpson trial in America and couldn’t believe such a thing could happen in Canada. 

I also knew more gun owners in Canada than I do in the States, but you would think no one in Canada owns a gun based on the headlines. There were also many Canadians that were more familar with the American judicial system than the Canadian because they watched so many American shows on TV. TV shows can be powerful influence, I still spit at the name Wullerton.

Posted by hockey1919 from mid-atlantic on 01/11/11 at 06:00 PM ET

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There are just as many American hockey fans. Maybe not with the obsession (not meant as an insult) of Canadian fans, but the U.S. is an absolute necessity for North American professional hockey to be anything close to relevant.

No offense taken. In fact, that average American hockey fan is arguably more knowledgeable than the average hockey fan in Canada. In Canada, every knucklehead with a TV is a ‘hockey fan.’ In the States, you have to actually seek it out so only those with a genuine interest (rather than just time to kill) will follow the sport.

Posted by blammo from Vancouver, BC on 01/11/11 at 06:03 PM ET

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Bunch of Canadian hypocrisy is what we have here. None of the Defenders of Canadia that have posted in this thread have disputed that the poor behavior occurred. All you’ve done is engage in more insults at the US and at the newspaper man that wrote the story; shooting the messenger, that’s the way to win a debate. Yet, if any US fans had acted this way in Canada during the Vancouver Olympics, we would still be hearing about “ugly Americans” a year later.

Add this to the list of boorish behavior on the part of hockey loving Canadians that are supposed to be so “nice.” Like your women’s hockey coaches that lied to their players telling them a fabricated story about American players trampelling the Canadian flag in order to fire them up for a game. Or booing the US national anthem during the WJC tournament in Canada a few years ago.

Stay classy, Canada.

Posted by CaptainDennisPolonich from The Land of Fake Boobs and Real Nuts on 01/11/11 at 06:51 PM ET

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Canadians in general think they know a lot about America, Americans in general think the little they know about Canada is true and somewhere in the middle lies reality.

I just want to second this and move on.  Have fun though, everybody.

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 01/11/11 at 06:53 PM ET

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Well, if nothing else, it’s apparent this thread hit too close to home for Garth.

Posted by Red Winger from Sault Ste Marie on 01/11/11 at 07:13 PM ET

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I think Mr. CaptainDennisPolonich, that you are taking this all a little too seriously.

I think you’ll find ample evidence of unruly American behaviour during the Vancouver Olympics

Posted by blammo from Vancouver, BC on 01/11/11 at 09:06 PM ET

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Heck, I think they sound like great , passionate sports fans having a good time. Cheers

Posted by Rdwings28 on 01/11/11 at 09:17 PM ET

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I think you’ll find ample evidence of unruly American behaviour during the Vancouver Olympics

But the difference is when that happens Canadians drag out the tired “ugly American” line. When Canadian fans act unruly, and are called out, that also is because of the “ugly American”

It’s a laughable double-standard, but one that really has no place here.

Posted by Red Winger from Sault Ste Marie on 01/11/11 at 09:39 PM ET

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Right.  Well done.

I’m sure the journalist simply scours papers looking for shit to get riled up at.

Are you TRYING to look like a retard?

Obviously someone passed it on and Kelly decided to respond to it.

Posted by Garth on 01/11/11 at 02:52 PM ET

But why?  To what point?

That’s why it’s stupid, moronic, and dumb.

There are plenty of dumb Americans.  The difference is Americans will admit it, nor do Americans care what someone is Buffalo writes about anyone because they’re in Buffalo.

Canadians however refuse to think a Canadian (any of them) could ever be stupid, dumb, or just plain wrong.  Unless their name is Bruce Garrioch…

Look at it this way:  which country has a xenophobic, color blind, backwards, back-woods jackass spouting hate and lies on PUBLICLY funded television and tries to pass him off as a sports commentator?

Free hint: in the US, we keep those types on CNN, Fox News, and satellite radio.  In Canada, he gets named one of the Greatest Canadians.

But hey, it’s all those hate-filled Americans’ fault… I suppose it’s Buffalo’s fault the Canuckistani junior team CHOKED in the most-important game of the tourney as well?

And as if to prove my point, you’re the one here who has resorted to calling names and trolling.

You’re a real piece, you are, Garth…

Posted by Primis on 01/11/11 at 09:42 PM ET

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Rabble rabble rabble!

Posted by Shane on 01/11/11 at 10:37 PM ET

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Somehow when I read Primis, I always feel just a bit better.

Posted by timbits on 01/12/11 at 03:34 AM ET

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Esmonde is at it again.

http://www.buffalonews.com/city/columns/donn-esmonde/article312397.ece

Both of these guys are embarrassing themselves.

Posted by @DaveDavisHockey from Buffalo, NY on 01/14/11 at 01:22 PM ET

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