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“It’s been very challenging and very frustrating. We never had any indication that this situation with the NHL was going to last until January. It was always our understanding that this was going to be a tweak and a fix.”

-Jon Miller, president of programming at NBCSN on the NHL lockout.  More about NBCSN from Chad Finn of the Boston Globe.

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Paul's avatar

As a hockey fan, one who wants this game to grow, I find the comment by Miller very disturbing.

What does it tell potential and current sponsors, advertisers, etc. about the NHL when they cannot be upfront with those companies who attached themselves to the game?

Posted by Paul from Motown Area on 12/29/12 at 04:09 PM ET

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If Bettman and Daly are still in charge, I think the sponsors are less trusting of the League.

Posted by SYF from the team that re-signed KFQ and DFC by KFH on 12/29/12 at 05:20 PM ET

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What does it tell potential and current sponsors, advertisers, etc. about the NHL when they cannot be upfront with those companies who attached themselves to the game?

I don’t think they weren’t being up front, I just think they assumed they would bulldoze the union and it would be done very quickly.

Posted by Garth on 12/29/12 at 05:33 PM ET

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Why would the league have thought that? Neither of the two earlier lockouts lasted less time and this time they knew the PA had someone who wasn’t opposed to going on strike and wasting a season+ to get a deal his union likes. How could the league possibly have expected this one to go easy?

Posted by clownfat on 12/29/12 at 06:00 PM ET

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How could the league possibly have expected this one to go easy?

Arrogance.

Posted by Garth on 12/29/12 at 06:02 PM ET

Alan's avatar

What does it tell potential and current sponsors, advertisers, etc. about the NHL when they cannot be upfront with those companies who attached themselves to the game?

Furthermore, what does it tell us about how sponsors and advertisers feel about the lockout?

How many other companies or people did the NHL approach under the misguided belief that this whole thing was just gonna be a minor tweak and last a couple weeks?

Posted by Alan from Atlanta on 12/29/12 at 06:10 PM ET

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In the meantime, NBCSN will start airing EPL next season, and are already broadcasting MLS games. It’s going to interest me greatly to watch the trajectory of hockey and soccer over the next few years on NBCSN. I don’t suspect soccer is a ratings winner quite yet, but I wonder what we’ll see in terms of network promotion and push.

Posted by YouppiKiYay on 12/29/12 at 08:16 PM ET

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In the meantime, NBCSN will start airing EPL next season, and are already broadcasting MLS games. It’s going to interest me greatly to watch the trajectory of hockey and soccer over the next few years on NBCSN. I don’t suspect soccer is a ratings winner quite yet, but I wonder what we’ll see in terms of network promotion and push.

Posted by thos_pratt on 12/29/12 at 07:16 PM ET

I did not know that.  Thanks.

Posted by SYF from the team that re-signed KFQ and DFC by KFH on 12/29/12 at 09:28 PM ET

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We never had any indication that this situation with the NHL was going to last until January.

Well you should have called me. I would have told ya, as early as February, with a 95 percent certainty that there would be no hockey this season. I still believe that. Either Jon Miller doesn’t pay attention to the NHL or he is a fool. In the last 20 years, what in the world would have given him the thought that this back and forth crap between the owners and the players would end quickly?

Posted by UMFan from Denver, Colorado on 12/29/12 at 09:59 PM ET

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I’d speculate that the league told him the labor impasse would be over in a matter of weeks, and then the winter classic got killed. Then the all star game got killed. Then the realization that the NHL would have to broadcast hockey for free for a year on national television made the owners aware that they have to scrape together SOME kind of season, or this will cost them dearly if they ever do resume hockey operations.  So we get this one last ditch attempt for the league to offer a take or leave it option yet again. And all the while, NBC has been getting strung along. I canceled my cable when the lockout came down, so I have no idea what NBCSN or Fox Sports is using to fill the time. I wonder how different the ratings are for the two channels.

Posted by redxblack from Akron Ohio on 12/30/12 at 10:37 AM ET

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If Miller didn’t know this was going to take a while, he’s an idiot.  This is the company which signed off on paying the NHL 200 million bucks this year if there wasn’t a single game played?  And their director of programming never had any indication this could drag out.

What.  A.  Dimwit.

Then the realization that the NHL would have to broadcast hockey for free for a year on national television made the owners aware that they have to scrape together SOME kind of season, or this will cost them dearly if they ever do resume hockey operations.

How, though?  The deal is the deal.  It just means the last televised year is ‘for free’, and that hurts the players at least as much as it hurts the owners.  The only owners this is hurting are the 5+ teams who actually make money from hockey ops.  Everybody else is going to make their money from venue ops… and heck, even the guys losing hockey ops profits are still getting venue ops profits so it’s not like they’re suffering too much either.

The people who are choking themselves unconscious here are and have always been the players, because they’re not only not getting paid now, but they’re never going to make back a dollar of the revenue they let slide while they wrangle over some really short-term issues.

 

Posted by HockeyinHD on 12/30/12 at 11:20 AM ET

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