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Interesting the baseball guy is commenting about NHL owner overspending. I suspect his bias for Fehr is showing. Funny how so many folks want a baseball type system that has produced the worst competitive balance in all of major league sports.

Posted by timbits on 11/10/12 at 01:31 PM ET

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Funny how so many folks want a baseball type system that has produced the worst competitive balance in all of major league sports.

You know half of the last ten World Series champs have come with payrolls outside of the league’s top-ten, right?

Meanwhile the Lakers have been in 7 of the last 12 NBA Finals series.

What’s your definition of competitive balance and how do you explain the NBAs as being “better” than MLBs?

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 11/10/12 at 02:20 PM ET

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What’s your definition of competitive balance and how do you explain the NBAs as being “better” than MLBs?

I don’t think you can compare the NBA results with the NHL or MLB. It takes so few players to build a dominant team that it isn’t comparable. The NHL hard cap has produced the most parity of any of the systems. It needs to be tweaked to take out the extreme contracts, bring the cost in line for most of the teams AND expand revenue sharing to assure that weak teams have the resources to pay market prices for players. It will bring financial stability, reduce labor strife (because the more teams that make money the less incentive there is to shut down), and it keeps the competitive balance!

Posted by timbits on 11/10/12 at 02:47 PM ET

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This season is F’d. The NHL, overall, is so F’d up they don’t know up from down at this point.

Blow the whole thing up and start over in a few years.

Posted by Red Winger from Sault Ste Marie on 11/10/12 at 02:54 PM ET

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I’d argue that the NFL has done a very good job of keeping competitive balance, but as they’re working in a financial system that leaves even MLB in the dust as far as revenues, they kind of work under different rules. 

I just don’t think the MLB’s “parity problem” is as bad as it seems. The Yankees are the only team that pays the luxury tax and, while they are in the running every year, they certainly don’t win the championship every year.  It kind of sucks that MLB has the perennial bottom-feeding Royals and Pirates to beat up on in each league, but neither of those teams’ ownership groups are clamoring to change anything, so even if it’s a slap in the face to would-be fans of those teams, it doesn’t seem to bother the people in charge.

That said, as far as your ideas, I agree with most of them. I would just add that a fix to the resource issue is to make sure there aren’t two very different reasons to pay players a certain way. I think the fact that big clubs have been looking for cap-deflating deals while small clubs have been looking for creative ways to overpay without overpaying severely limits player movement.

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 11/10/12 at 02:58 PM ET

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do the 50/50 split(current contracts insured)

set contracts to 5 yrs(balanced, every year counts the same amount to equal your total)

leave arbitration the way it is(it works just fine)

eliminate NTC’s

team mulligans (2 per team allowable, start this CBA in the right direction)

**current contracts guaranteed, new contracts signed as of new CBA fall to new CBA mandates**

LET’S PLAY SOME DAMNED HOCKEY!

Posted by NIVO from underpants gnome village on 11/10/12 at 04:19 PM ET

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You know half of the last ten World Series champs have come with payrolls outside of the league’s top-ten, right?

JJ, being that I’m the only resident SF Giants fan and persona non grata on A2Y right now… wink

The Giants were 9th in 2010 and 8th this year in payroll.

Posted by mrfluffy from A wide spot on I-90 in Montana on 11/11/12 at 01:22 AM ET

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