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The impact of this latest shutdown will be profound. The fan base will erode dramatically in many markets.

Some owners will opt out of the business. A team or two could move. Dozens of players will see their careers end. Others may opt to remain in Europe, where the leagues run without interruption.

Much of the progress made since the last lockout will be lost.

Hockey will remain a fringe sport in this country, well out of the mainstream. The NHL will remain a symbol of opportunity lost and a sad example of how not to run a professional sport.

-Jeff Gordon of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch where you can read more on this topic.

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Hank1974's avatar

I still don’t understand how fans and journalists continue to miss the point.
The NHL doesn’t care.

They know they’re a fringe sport. They don’t care.
They know this will hurt them temporarily. Again, they don’t care.

Because they know full well that every hockey fan will be back and much sooner than later.

The minute this lockout ends, whether it’s tomorrow or 2015, hundreds of thousands of fans will flock to buy tickets. The ACC will still be sold out in milliseconds.
And those who can’t afford tickets will flock to the TV.

We’re suckers and the NHLPA and the Owners know this.

That’s why all these doomsday articles are a joke.
The NHL is capped with it’s fanbase and the owners are more than happy to control their small $3B+ industry.
The doors will eventually open and all the clapping seals will flock. Sure, they may boo from their seats for a few games, but they’ll do so inbetween buying jersey’s, hotdogs, parking and beer.

Posted by Hank1974 on 11/01/12 at 02:43 PM ET


A team or two could move.

I think the NHL has this in the plans already, if not expansion. If they moved the teams or expanded prior to the current CBA expiration it would have been hard to cry poverty and ask for NHLPA concessions to help struggling franchises. What they really want is to make the profitable franchises obscenely more profitable.

If they move struggling teams to any two out of Seattle,Toronto part 2 and Quebec you can remove millions off the debt floor. The owners would have probably loved to have moved Atlanta after the CBA expired too, but just couldn’t hold out any longer in the Atlanta market. The Islanders are already set to move after 2015, so will it be Florida, Columbus, Phoenix or some other darkhorse (Dallas or Anaheim) that are set to move into new markets?

Posted by hockey1919 from mid-atlantic on 11/01/12 at 04:55 PM ET


I agree Hank, only the die-hards will come back.. but then you’re still only at 05-06 numbers in terms of revenue,

If the NHL only draws what they drew in 2005-6 do you know how many fans lost that is compared to what they drew in 2011-12?

Barely 600,000.  Less than 3% of their attendance.  The vast majority of the ‘revenue growth’ of the NHL has experienced has been the result of ticket price increases and the few decent TV contracts they have.  Attendance has been a small portion of that.

And we all know it’s not like ticket prices are going to be walked back or anything.

So maybe a short term 3% drop in revenue (and that’s a huge maybe considering more people showed up in 2006 than did in 2004), and if they get a 50-50 split they make all that back and then some.

Posted by HockeyinHD on 11/01/12 at 05:38 PM ET


Some good dialogue going on here.  It usually is when I see your particular log-ins on   Paul’s site.

Any of you interested in coming on the air at NHL Network Radio for an hour to kick these topics around?

If so, please indicate so here.  You can use your “Kuklas names” on air, though we’ll need to know where to reach you…we promise to keep all info confidential.  You now have it in writing.

If not, that’s cool.  I appreciate the intelligent discourse; keep it up!

Mick Kern
Sirius XM NHL Home Ice
(sorry Paul…now I’m recruiting your readers…but they’re good…well, these folks are)

Posted by Mick Kern on 11/01/12 at 08:47 PM ET

Paul's avatar

Not a problem Mick and I encourage the above KK members to take Mick up on his offer.

You can either leave a comment here like he asked or email me and I will give you his contact information.

Also, don’t forget you can email any member by clicking on their name and you also have the option to PM the member.

Posted by Paul from Motown Area on 11/01/12 at 08:53 PM ET

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