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SYF's avatar

Soooooooo, Kesler stays in VAN?

Posted by SYF from The Revenge of Johnny E on 06/20/14 at 02:15 PM ET

BettmenSucks79's avatar

Its not tho….Crosby and Brisson run that team….would you want to be a figurehead?

Posted by BettmenSucks79 on 06/20/14 at 02:52 PM ET

awould's avatar

A powerless GM. A legendary owner with control issues. The best player alive, with character issues. A headcase for a goalie. Questionable defense. Salary cap issues.

What’s not to like?

Posted by awould on 06/20/14 at 03:09 PM ET

Nathan's avatar

A powerless GM. A legendary owner with control issues. The best player alive, with character issues. A headcase for a goalie. Questionable defense. Salary cap issues.

What’s not to like?

Posted by awould on 06/20/14 at 04:09 PM ET

Here I go defending a rival again… all these claims have some valid talking point to back them up… except Crosby having character issues. That puzzles me. What has Crosby done that shows a lack of character? I feel like the guy gets blamed for being a petulant child back when he was… oh right, still a freakin’ kid living in Lemieux’s basement! Hell, it’s even been a lot of years since he was the guy whining to the refs and taking his stick to Lidstrom’s sack when nobody was looking.

No, he’s not the stoic Steve Yzerman out there, but he has led his club team to a Cup victory, and his national team to a gold medal in front of the hometown crowd. He dealt with a boatload of unfair criticism as he recovered from a series of BRAIN injuries. I don’t think this guy lacks character. I think he was a young kid when he came into the NHL and did what young guys do—acted brash, made some silly mistakes. But he’s a veteran now that has proven his worth across the board.

Who wouldn’t want to coach him?

I think the real story is that all the other reasons you list are so negative and problematic in Pittsburgh that it is enough to push coaches away from wanting to go coach the best player in the game. Normally, you’d want to take a stab at having the best guy in the game on your team (along with another guy that’s right up near the top). It’s a testament of how dysfunctional the Pens’ ownership looked this season in particular that the Pens don’t have the likes of Barry Trotz behind their bench now.

Posted by Nathan from the scoresheet! on 06/20/14 at 03:28 PM ET

SYF's avatar

I know, I know hfboards are a floozy of activity, but they’re pretty insistent (much like the Laffs) that Babcock is just idling his time in Detroit and then bolt for the Pens for the ‘15-16 season since Peters and Desjardins are now spoken for.

I’m…I’m sorry.  It was too good to pass up their reactions when the absolute best coaching candidate of this year rejected the Pens and headed for VAN.

Posted by SYF from The Revenge of Johnny E on 06/20/14 at 04:32 PM ET

awould's avatar

except Crosby having character issues

I agree w/ you mostly. He’s come a long way. The character issues I guess should better be characterized as leadership issues. The Pens simply had none in their last two losing playoff series. Crosby led the Penguins to getting mentally rattled right out of the playoffs.

Posted by awould on 06/20/14 at 05:28 PM ET

WingsFanInBeanLand's avatar

but he has led his club team to a Cup victory, and his national team to a gold medal in front of the hometown crowd.

He didn’t lead either of those teams to those victories.

He was a ghost in the Cup final which is why Malkin won the Con Smythe.

He was also lucky enough to be Johny on the Spot for the gold medal game.  Other than that goal, he was non-existent.

When Boudreau was fired from the Caps everyone was talking how Ovechkin was a coach killer.

Rosby is such a coach killer that they can’t even get anyone to coach there.

Posted by WingsFanInBeanLand from where free agents no longer dare. on 06/20/14 at 08:14 PM ET

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Rosby is such a coach killer that they can’t even get anyone to coach there.

Yeah, real coach killer.

He’s such a coach killer that in nine seasons he’s had whopping two head coaches!!!!!!!!!

A powerless GM. A legendary owner with control issues.

So he chose to go to Vancouver.  The organization where the ownership forced the last GM to hire a coach he didn’t want to hire, then fired them both when the move didn’t work?

Great choice.

Posted by Garth on 06/20/14 at 11:43 PM ET

BrendonR's avatar

It’s clear he was being set up to coach for two years, then when Rutherford is out who knows? They obviously feel they have internal candidates so good that it’s worth going through this whole Rutherford-as-GM-for-a-couple-years thing and subsequently putting off quality coaching candidates until they have a new, long-term GM.

Posted by BrendonR on 06/21/14 at 12:49 AM ET

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