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The NHL absolutely needs continued growth in the United States to keep the game alive and vibrant, but the lifeblood of the operation flows north of American’s upper border. And turning away a willing plasma donator in Quebec City or Southern Ontario – even for the majestic beauty of Seattle – would only result in more bad Canadian blood toward the league.

-Adam Proteau of The Hockey News where you can read more on this topic.

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Primis's avatar

Quebec or Toronto could always get WInnipeg in a few years when they go under I guess.

Seriously, I’m so f***ing sick and tired of hearing on one hand how the game and league is growing, and in the same breath hearing about how much of a struggle it is fro EDM, CGY, WIN, and OTT.

Posted by Primis on 08/01/13 at 02:03 PM ET

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....would only result in more bad Canadian blood toward the league.

Lots of heroin addicts have bad feelings towards heroin too. I doubt the NHL will lose much from the Canadian market pretty much no matter what they do.

Posted by awould on 08/01/13 at 03:52 PM ET

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I struggle to see where there is any BOG support for Quebec or Ontario. Detroit and Columbus will oppose moving back west. Toronto will oppose anything in their market and Buffalo will oppose anything in Hamilton. I would highly doubt Vancouver, Calgary or Edmonton would rather have a team in Quebec over the close proximity of Seattle. I doubt any of the current Canadian teams want to share their TV deals with Quebec. Does Montreal want Quebec back in the league, continually trying to outdo the French factor, in their own province? The Canadian dollar is expected to continue to lower against the USD. I just don’t see any scenario at this time for Quebec or TO to join the league.

As for tryng to appease the “you owe us crowd” in Canada, I don’ think there is a plug big enough for that whole.

Posted by timbits on 08/01/13 at 11:03 PM ET

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The Canadian dollar is expected to continue to lower against the USD.

This is a big thing. The weak Canadian dollar was the death knell in Winnipeg, and a big problem for all the small market Canadian teams. If it continues to weaken, there will be a lot of Canadian teams hovering close to the salary cap floor, unable to compete based on simple economics. Does the new CBA provide for any remedy for this?

Posted by awould on 08/01/13 at 11:16 PM ET

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Does the new CBA provide for any remedy for this?

For the past 10 years there has been no need, I am not sure if they will reimpose it,if the CDN continues to slide.

Posted by timbits on 08/02/13 at 12:14 AM ET

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The NHL isn’t really ‘growing’, it’s just charging more for tickets every year.  Outside of a few matchup spikes (Boston Chicago in the Finals) and novelty events (outdoor games) TV ratings and attendance are pretty much right where they were 5, 10, 15, 20 years ago.

I struggle to see where there is any BOG support for Quebec or Ontario.

Well, when they add one they’ll add two.  One East and one West.  That’ll take the NHL to 32 teams, stupidly IMO but so is a lot of what Bettman decides.  The BOG support will come from the 15 or so smaller market teams who will get a 15-20 million dollar check in the form of entry fee for each new club.

Posted by HockeyinHD on 08/02/13 at 08:57 AM ET

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The BOG support will come from the 15 or so smaller market teams who will get a 15-20 million dollar check in the form of entry fee for each new club.

Who will move West, if this happens? That will be an ugly battle.

Posted by timbits on 08/02/13 at 09:23 AM ET

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The NHL isn’t really ‘growing’, it’s just charging more for tickets every year.

This is actually a much stronger growth indicator than the flawed Nielsen ratings system. Ticket prices significantly outgrew inflation in a period that involved a large economic downturn and attendance didn’t falter.

Of course, that also ignores that attendance actually HAS gone up at the same time, but when you’re already over 90% leaguewide, you can’t simply throw away little numbers and call them meaningless.

 

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 08/02/13 at 10:44 AM ET

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