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"How would I fare (in today's game)?  I'd make about 12 million a year, score 25 goals, don't wear any equipment. Maybe shin pads. You'd have to block the odd shot. Then I'd hit somebody and I'd be suspended for half a year and I'd be donating six million dollars, which is not bad. I'd still have six million left. You could get suspended at Christmastime and go snowmobiling until the playoffs start and you're ready to go."

-former NHL player Dave "Tiger" Williams.  More from Williams on the rules of the game by Greg Harder of the Leader-Post.

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Hockeytown Wax's avatar

Tiger is right on all accounts. Unfortunately, his words will fall upon deaf ears and, what I like to call the ‘pussification’ of hockey, will continue on its current path.

I’d imagine Scott Stevens is glad he’s retired too. He’d also be in Shanny’s doghouse more often than not.

Posted by Hockeytown Wax from West Bloomfield, Mi. on 04/24/13 at 06:00 PM ET

Hockeytown Wax's avatar

... another thought ...

As good as we think Kronner and Brad Stuart are now ... how good would they be if we turned the clock back 20 or 30 years and saw them play using the old rules ?


Posted by Hockeytown Wax from West Bloomfield, Mi. on 04/24/13 at 06:04 PM ET

Nathan's avatar

He’s right on all his points if by “right” you mean “crazy.”

Comparing his career to today’s game is like comparing apples to… semi-trucks… or something else completely random and not at all related to apples.

I’d argue he’d have a hard time cracking a lineup in today’s game, let alone score 25 goals (let alone score 10), if for nothing more than the difference in the overall athleticism of the players today.

Then there’s the PIMs. That has nothing to do with the “pussification” of the game, and everything to do with the increased financial impact of every win and loss, and as such the dramatic improvement in the overall level of goaltending and team defense in today’s game. It is a waste of lineup space to have a guy that notches 300 PIMs per year. Power plays are too valuable and being shorthanded is too costly.

As for suspensions for hits… it has everything to do with the athleticism of the game today, and the ignorance of the past. The suspensions have come out of necessity given how the game is, by far, at its fastest, with its strongest players ever. I don’t buy the “lack of respect argument” (they sure did a heck of a lot worse to each other in TW’s day when it comes to intent). In the past, we were by-and-large ignorant of the effects of even “minor” head injuries on long-term health. Now we are learning more and more about these things at a rapid pace and doing our best to have both entertaining sports and healthier futures for the players of those sports. I think that’s a good thing.

Posted by Nathan from the scoresheet! on 04/25/13 at 08:58 AM ET

Primis's avatar

How would he fare?

He’d make the league minimum on a two-way contract and spend much of his time in the AHL.  When he did play in the NHL from time to time, he’d get his two shifts and one fight a game, and probably get his skull caved in once or twice getting in a fight with a much larger or tougher dude he shouldn’t have tangled with.  He’d probably be on the shelf with a concussion once or twice.

He’d be suspended multiple times for stickwork, checks from behind, and blows to the head, to the point where his parent club would just plain stop calling him up and no other NHL clubs would bite on a new contract.  So his career would float from the AHL to overseas (unlikely unless Vityaz or a British team wanted him though), or down say to the CHL and then SPHL or LNAH where he’d continue his tired bad-boy antics and routine, desperately trying to make money, any money, from his tired act.

And then he’d retire never really having made any money (and what he did make long-since spent), with lingering injuries, pain, and a lot of memory loss.  Probably a severe drinking problem to go along with it to dull the aches and pains and make him forget what hes forgotten.

Basically his career would be a lot like Link Gaetz’s, possibly even sadder.  And his life might end like Probert’s did.

Posted by Primis on 04/25/13 at 09:50 AM ET


Primis, you hit it right on the head! Tiger Williams was what was wrong with hockey, not what was right. You want a tough Leaf, I’ll take Wendell Clark. A guy that could actually play. Tiger was and still is an ass.

Posted by hockey1919 from mid-atlantic on 04/25/13 at 03:50 PM ET

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