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The Penguins held a Kids Open Practice today and Crosby decided to visit with a few of his closest, screaming kids...
Sidney Crosby when asked this question...
Is it necessary for a player to start a fight after a teammate is hit legally?
"That’s been around for years. I don’t see a problem with that. I don’t see a problem with Thornton going over to [Orpik] and asking him to fight. That’s the response. But to do what he did was totally unnecessary. It’s terrible. I’m sure he knows that more than everybody. He’s made a living at protecting his teammate and sticking up for them. But to confront [Orpik] and ask him to fight, I think every team wants a player like that. There’s nothing wrong with that. But to do what he did to him is not acceptable. He could have done the exact same thing and gotten a two-minute minor for five shifts in a row. There’s nothing wrong with it. … there’s nothing with [Orpik] saying no either. He’s got to play 25 minutes a night against top guys."
more from Crosby at Empty Netters...
I will post more detaisl when available.
added 1:09pm, Watch below as Brendan Shanahan explains the suspension...
from Nicholas J. Cotsonika of Yahoo,
It should have been the best of the NHL – the Pittsburgh Penguins versus the Boston Bruins on Saturday night, a rematch of the Eastern Conference final, skill and speed and defense and toughness and all that good stuff.
Instead, it was the worst of the NHL – a seek-and-destroy hit, a concussion, a sneaky-dirty knee to the head, a vicious attack, another concussion and a stretcher, then finger-pointing and lies and apologies.
In the aftermath, it's like sorting garbage at the dump. This stinks. This stinks more. This stinks most. You have to draw distinctions, but the overwhelming overall stench leaves you holding your nose.
And it's going to get worse.
If anyone has a video of this, please pass it on.
added 11:32am, Below, watch a Vine video of the slash...
from Ken Campbell of The Hockey News,
The NHL and its many fighting and violence zealots must be so, so proud. Over the next few days, you’re going to hear from them that Shawn Thornton is one of the good guys. They’ll talk about how much character he has and how he visits sick kids in the hospital and what a great team guy he is and how out of character this attack was.
All of which may be true, but Shawn Thornton proved that on the ice, he’s nothing but a bully and a punk and someone who deserves to have the privilege of playing hockey taken away from him for a long, long time. Kudos to him for coming out and answering for his actions after the game and taking responsibility for them, but that was the only thing he did all night that had even a shred of integrity. What Thornton did was no different than what almost killed Steve Moore and forever changed the career of Todd Bertuzzi more than nine years ago. In fact, Brooks Oprik should be saying, “There but by the grace of God go I,” or something like that right now because it could have been much, much worse for him. Initial reports had him conscious and alert at a Boston hospital, which means those who enjoy this kind of nonsense have just dodged another bullet.
(Thornton received a match penalty, which carries an indefinite suspension, and has an in-person hearing with the NHL. Wouldn’t you just love to see the NHL throw him out for 25 games then see if Thornton has the gall to appeal it?)
Those who defend fighting in the NHL will tell you this had nothing to do with fighting. And that’s a bunch of unadulterated bunk. It had everything to do with fighting. Why did Thornton attack Orpik in the first place? Because Orpik refused to fight him, that’s why. So Thornton took it upon himself to force Orpik into a fight. And that has nothing to do with fighting? Who are these people trying to kid?
Neal was certainly no better with his accidental-on-purpose knee to Marchand’s head.
Cassie Campbell and Kevin Weekes chime in too...
No excuse for what Shawn Thornton did there. Looked to me like he completely lost it after couple borderline hits from Penguins. Cant happen
— Joe Haggerty (@HackswithHaggs) December 8, 2013
Pittsburgh Penguins defenseman Brooks Orpik was taken off the ice on a stretcher in the first period against the Boston Bruins on Saturday.
With play stopped, Orpik and Boston Bruins forward Shawn Thornton were in a confrontation, and Orpik remained injured on the ice.
Penguins players immediately called for medical assistance.
Thornton and Orpik became involed after Bruins forward Brad Marchand, while on the ice, took a knee to the head from Penguins forward James Neal.
Thornton was assessed a match penalty; he appeared to pull Orpik down and punch him while he was on the ice.
Neal was assessed a two-minute penalty for kneeing.
Bruins forward Loui Eriksson left the game after his first shift following a hit from Orpik.
Watch the incident below... added 8:36pm, both Boston and Pittsburgh broadcasts can be viewed below...
added 8:40pm, Orpik hit on Eriksson added below too...
from Shelly Anderson of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette,
Fleury made 44 saves Thursday in a 5-1 win against the San Jose Sharks at Consol Energy Center. That was a season-high and three saves shy of his career best.
After that game, Sharks second-leading scorer Logan Couture suggested that Fleury's save total wasn't reflective of his performance. "He gave up a lot of rebounds, and on a lot of shots, he looked shaky," Couture said. "We weren't able to score on second chances."
San Jose's Joe Pavelski suggested that Fleury "was fighting it all night. It felt like we could have had five [goals]."
Those words didn't sit well with the Penguins, particularly Couture's assertion that Fleury was "shaky."
"I think that's kind of a stupid comment," defenseman Matt Niskanen said Friday after the Penguins practiced at Southpointe. "Sure, they had a lot of chances. They didn't bury them because he competed really hard.
"I'm assuming he's talking about ones where [Fleury] is rolling around on the ice trying to make saves. Those are second opportunities that we didn't clean up. He had to make consecutive saves on several occasions. To say he looked shaky, that's just stupid."
ESPN hosted an online chat today with Scott Burnside...
Is Steve Mason for real? Should he be getting Vezina consideration?
Scott Burnside Chris; Yes, I think it's fair to say that Steve Mason is the real deal; again. I recall talking to goaltending coach Jeff Reese during training camp and he thought apart from some of the technical things they were working on that one of the big factors was the Flyers' belief in Mason was going to be a big deal to Mason. It was time for a change and even when the team was struggling Mason has been very consistent. Vezina? Might be a stretch with guys like Carey Price, Semyon Varlamov, Josh Harding also having great seasons but Mason's is a great tale Vezina or not.
What is wrong with Kris Letang?Starting with the playoffs and now this season he isnt playing like his normal self.
Scott Burnside No doubt last spring was a nightmare for Letang (and Pens fans in general) and you wonder how it might have eroded his confidence. Even with the contract extension he still can't seem to shake the mistakes that have come to mark his game. Being injured to start the season didn't help and maybe he is worried bout the Canadian Olympic team (he should stop worrying, by the way, as I don't think that's going to happen for him) but definitely needs to get back on track. On a positive note, the Pens have been patient with guys whose game goes sideways ie. Paul Martin and Letang is still a young man so entirely likely he'll get that swagger back in his game.
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