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from Michael Traikos of the National Post,
Wake me when it’s over.
That’s how most fans probably feel about the latest squabble between the NHL and the players’ union. They’re fed up.
Don’t talk to them about revenue sharing or salary rollbacks. Don’t tell them one side is being greedy and the other unreasonable. They don’t want to hear it. Not after what happened last time.
In 2004-05, a full season of a hockey was wiped out because of an unwillingness to introduce the salary cap. Eight years later, the existence of the salary cap is not even an issue anymore. Instead, a debate over relative shares of hockey-related revenues could threaten the season from starting. It could be about midi-chlorian counts and magic beans, for all fans care.
All that matters is that it appears we are going to lose more games. How many? It’s hard to say yet, but the doomsday preppers are already planning for the worst.
from Justin Bourne of The Score,
I don’t know if the NHLPA is pushing for more player tweets trying to sway the public opinion, I don’t know if agents are behind keeping their clients’ feeds PR friendly, .... What I do know, is that some of the feeds are not being run by the players themselves, and that’s half the reason many of them are so goddamn painful.
added 6:59pm, from the CP at CBC,
One day after hearing NHL commissioner Gary Bettman say a “wide gap” remained in collective bargaining negotiations, players were still upset the owners quickly dismissed their initial proposal this week.
“The industry’s grown a billion dollars since [the lockout] and basically they just want more money,” Chris Campoli, a member of the NHLPA’s negotiating committee, said Thursday.
“I thought in our proposal we made a step and considerable concessions to them,” he added. “Frankly, it was a little disappointing to see the response yesterday and the view they have on it.”
from Michael Grange of Sportsnet,
...we’re proposing an NHL collective bargaining agreement to end all further labour stoppages, one that those without a vested interest—other than, you know, funding the whole venture with your money and passion—deem fair to both sides and which will actually contribute to the overall health of the game and the fan experience, rather than simply be whatever happens when the billionaires and millionaires go into sudden-death overtime.
—A league that’s robust—I never want the NHL’s news agenda driven by disasters like the Phoenix Coyotes again.
—A league in which the top players earn something approximating what they’re worth.
—A league in which franchises operating in markets that are passionate about hockey can match their fans’ passion by investing to build winners. Nashville and Columbus are welcome in my NHL, but not if carrying them means Toronto or Boston or an inspired ownership in Edmonton can’t spend as much as it wants to build teams and be attractive to stars.
Here we go—how to end CBA negotiations forever in five easy steps. Gary Bettman and Don Fehr have been cc’ed.
from the CP at TSN,
The first tense moments of the NHL’s collective bargaining negotiations have arrived.
With NHL commissioner Gary Bettman and NHL Players’ Association head Donald Fehr not scheduled to sit across from one another until the middle of next week and the sides unable to even agree on the core issues that need to be addressed, a sense of uneasiness has suddenly enveloped the talks.
After Wednesday’s session, in which the NHL dismissed the union’s initial proposal, Fehr set off for pre-scheduled player meetings in Chicago. The union boss will also oversee a session with players in Kelowna, B.C., before returning to Toronto and resuming CBA discussions on Aug. 22.
At that point, the league and its players’ association will have just 24 days left to reach a new agreement and avoid a lockout.
But where do they start? There is very little common ground between the proposals each side has put forth and neither seems particularly willing to move off its current position.
From where the owners are sitting, the deal the players are offering comes cloaked in the spirit of compromise but has some very sharp teeth.
Gary Bettman will cry “wolf,” and he will be right.
-Michael Grange of Sportsnet where you can read more about yesterday’s NHLPA offer.
3/ Aggregate revenues over next 4 yrs— Michael Grange (@michaelgrange) August 15, 2012
#NHL‘s aggregate revenues about $15.66B. Owners’ proposed to share 43.3% of that with players.
Read more of Grange’s recent tweets to get the bigger picture…
The NHL may inform the NHLPA today about the offer the PA made yesterday.
I am sure most of you have digested the offer so what do you think, how will the NHL react to the offer.
Will they use it as a starting point, will they turn it down or will they say nothing?
Your thoughts and I am sure there are more options for the NHL, but I tried to generalize and pick the best three scenarios.
Bettman says “we need time to evaluate” players’ proposal. They meet again tomorrow morning after league studies it.— David Shoalts (@dshoalts) August 14, 2012
Don Fehr: we do believe proposal players made today can produce stable industry. Players indicated they take lower share revenue next 3 yrs.— David Shoalts (@dshoalts) August 14, 2012
Fehr says proposal should “lead to a new CBA.”— Chris Johnston (@reporterchris) August 14, 2012
Fehr says revenue-sharing could reach $250 million per year.— Chris Johnston (@reporterchris) August 14, 2012
from Michael Grange of Sportsnet,
According to sources with the PA, instead of trying get the league’s proposed wage rollback of 24 per cent down to 12 per cent or get free agency from 10 years to seven, where it stands currently—instead of negotiating against themselves, in other words—the PA has a grander vision in mind.
The expectation is that Fehr, having played it coy even as the expiration of the current CBA on Sept. 15 comes ever closer, will instead present the owners with his own vision of how the industry should be shaped.
“Some people interpret a counter proposal to be ‘this is within the framework of what the other guy said’—It just moves some things around,” Fehr said after a two-hour bargaining session in Toronto Monday. “This is a different kind of an approach. It’s how the players see the world.”
Details weren’t available, but the broad strokes are clear:
The NHL’s hard salary cap, a concession earned by locking out the players for a season in 2004-05?
added 6:33pm, from David Shoalts of the Globe and Mail,
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