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via the CP at TSN,
The NHL and NHL Players' Association are back at the bargaining table.
The sides resumed discussions at the league's Manhattan offices with just over three days remaining before their collective bargaining agreement expires. "We have some things to tell them," said NHLPA executive director Donald Fehr as he stepped into the NHL offices.
It's the first formal session they've held since Aug. 31.
Prior to the meeting, deputy commissioner Bill Daly told The Canadian Press that he expected the union to deliver an "agenda" or "message," if not a proposal.
from George Johnson of the Calgary Herald,
Come back and see us when you’re ready to see reason. When you’re prepared to stop pouting and posturing, and play.
Until then, please just go away. To your drop-dead gorgeous summer homes in the Shuswap. To your vast corporate holdings in skyscrapers of glass and steel.
Until then, we don’t want to know.
Not about your counter-offers and their counter-counter offers. Not about scheduled meetings and cancelled meetings. Not about petty grievances or the indecipherable legalese that apprently passes for information.
The latest installment of Labour Relations NHL 101 has much of the feel of the last one, and the one before that. What has shifted seismically, however, is pervading public mood.
from Michael Grange of Sportsnet,
One source close to the bargaining process painted the purpose of today's meeting this way:
"If you're going off a cliff with someone, you want to take one last chance to make sure you understand each other."
League sources do expect the union to bring some kind of proposal forward although it's not clear how signficant it will be.
So officially: Do not get your hopes up.
But there is no doubt at this stage -- and there hasn't been since the two sides first met as part of a feeling out process in Los Angeles during the Stanley Cup final in June -- that Don Fehr and Gary Bettman understand each other's point of views vividly.
from CTV Atlantic,
“I really think this one won't be as long as the last one,” said Gretzky Tuesday during an event at Casino New Brunswick in Moncton. “I think somehow, some way, both sides will come together and we'll be playing hockey sooner rather than later.”
Recent negotiations between the NHL and the National Hockey League Players' Associationhave produced little common ground.
Another hockey legend says if players are told to stay home, they won’t be there for long.
“I just can't believe they won't get together,” Orr said Monday in Charlottetown. “There may be a short delay, but I can't believe it will be more than a short time. It would be so silly.”
from Sean Gentile of The Sporting News,
If the entirety of the NHLPA is looking for work in a few days, the KHL can afford to be picky—and that's just what the Russian league will do.
Only "top-rated talent" is welcome, according to Sport-Express' Slava Malamud, and that's according to the league's stated guidelines.
That means that if clubs are looking to sign non-Russian NHL players, they must have played in either 150 NHL games, on national teams, in the KHL previously or won a Stanley Cup or individual trophy.
The rules will go into effect the day the NHL announces the lockout and be enforced until the situation is resolved. Owners maintain that they'll lock out the NHLPA on Sept. 15.
If the owners promised to pay the players the dollar value of the contracts they've signed them to and let the player's share of HRR shrink over time, the players would very likely sign up Wednesday afternoon. If the players were willing to let their share of HRR diminish to 50 per cent or so sooner rather than later, the owners might go for it, but the players are still trying to win battles the lost seven years ago.
There is no need to bring in labour boards to figure this out. There is no need for any of the posturing we can predictably anticipate later this week. There is no need to delay the start of the season.
There is only need for common sense, but each has taken turns putting the boots to that patient and it's on life support, resting not at all comfortably.
-Michael Grange of Sportsnet where you can continue reading about this topic.
from Bob McKenzie of TSN,
My head is spinning, and if you've seen my noggin, you know that's no small feat. And to think we're likely just taking the first few steps this week towards walking through what is likely to be a very long, dark tunnel.
In some respects, I can't believe we're on the verge of another lockout, eight years after we went through a stoppage that cost us all an entire NHL season. And yet I'm not the least bit surprised at the vast gulf that exists, thus far anyway, between the positions of NHL commissioner Gary Bettman and NHLPA executive director Don Fehr. It has been entirely too predictable.
Based on what we've seen of the negotiations to this point, the overriding sense I get from the public opinion reaction of fans and media -- for what that is ultimately worth -- is that the NHL is looking for an awful lot, too much too fast. I would generally agree with that characterization.
from Tom Van Riper of Forbes,
As time winds down on the NHL’s deadline to lock out its players, there’s one burning question that stands out: what happened to the combative Donald Fehr, the one who made his name as a thorn in the side of the baseball owners for years?
Commissioner Gary Bettman launched an opening salvo that called for a huge reduction in the players’ take of league revenue – to 43% from 57%. That seems like a brazen move against Fehr, who would have laughed the baseball owners out of the room for such an offer.
But with five days to go until the NHL-imposed lockout, he isn’t dismissing the owners’ demands. Fehr will probably win something better than 43%, but he’s acknowledged that the players are willing to make hundreds of millions of dollars worth of concessions. So regardless of the final terms worked out, it’s Bettman and the owners who are framing the debate. Salaries will be cut, the only point of contention is how much.
continued and note to Forbes, time to change-out the very old NHL logo.
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