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Players Are Misinformed

from John Buccigross of ESPN,

I got this text from a very well-connected hockey source Tuesday night:

"In spending time around the players the last month, I think they are very unified and more misinformed than ever. They don't get it. I know for a fact there are teams that would lose much less money by not playing than if they played. If you are an owner, why would you agree to lose more money when this is your one chance to reset the equation? The players are being walked right down the gangplank and don't see it coming."

Well, here we go again.

The CBA expires at midnight on Sept. 15. The lockout will begin on that day. Training camps will be suspended. Some players and coaches will return home to their summer dwellings, others will probably get some ice time on their own and continue the process of team building.

continued plus Paul Kelly checks in with some CBA discussion...

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Bettman Winning

from Chris Stevenson at the Toronto Sun, 

The one surprising thing is the amount of vitriol and personal attacks on Bettman for the current labour situation.

The Bettman has his share of haters, many of them Canadian and a few in the media. When the fans and the media are about to be deprived of their NHL hockey fix, there's got to be a bad guy, right?

I don't think it bothers him.

The fact is, there is only one court of opinion that matters when it comes to the commissioner and that's what the 30 owners who pay his $8 million a year salary think.

At this point, they've got to think The Bettman is doing a pretty good job, no?

Look, I don't have a dog in this fight but clearly Bettman is winning this battle.


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Will They Ever Meet Again?

from Larry Brooks of the NY Post, 

The NHL has rejected the NHLPA’s request to convene to discuss “non-core” economic issues in the wake of the breakdown of talks last Friday.

“We actually don’t think that meeting on the other issues while the main economic issues remain uncertain would be particularly constructive or productive in terms of resolving those issues,” deputy commissioner Bill Daly wrote in an email to The Post. “A lot has already been done and most of those issues are teed up for resolution if the main issues can be addressed.”

The Post has learned the NHL proposals feature a “management rights” clause under which the league would assume unilateral power over issues including realignment, scheduling and playoff format.

The union refused to give its assent last year to the league’s proposed realignment plan for 2012-13 that would have created a four-conference (division) format, with attendant changes in scheduling and playoff structure.


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Evening Line

“You can’t compare hockey to any industry but to the sports industry. I get many (negative) comments on Twitter and I don’t even start arguing because I’m in a no-win situation.

“Say we take a 20-per-cent pay cut. Tell Vinnie Lecavalier his $10 million will go down to $8 million. ‘Poor him,’ people might say. But the point is, he’s got a contract that was agreed to by both sides and he’s still losing $2 million.

“If the league is doing so well that we want a pay increase, they’ll say, ‘No way, this is a contract we agreed to.’ It should be the same the other way. We don’t mind in a way restricting our growth to help the league, but why should we go back on what we’ve already agreed to? Nobody forced (owners) to give out these contracts.”

-Mathieu Darche, who has UFA status and has been heavily involved in the CBA negotiations.  More on Darche's playing status and the CBA from Dave Stubbs of Hockey Inside/Out.

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What Do You Think Of UFA Day On July 10th?

from Pierre LeBrun of ESPN,

While we await the NHL and NHL Players’ Association to resume talks -- no scheduled sessions at this point -- here’s a little nugget I found interesting from the summer’s negotiating sessions: The league has proposed to the NHLPA to have free agency start July 10 instead of the long-standing July 1 opening day, two sources told ESPN.com. 

Small potatoes compared to the big economic issues both sides are arguing about, but nonetheless interesting at least to me. 

For years, many of us have talked about how silly it was for the NHL to conduct some of its biggest business on July 1, a national holiday in hockey-mad Canada, and just a few days from the July 4 U.S. holiday. Talk about not maximizing your coverage for big signings. 

And yes, I will admit for the sake of full disclosure that I have continually harangued NHL commissioner Gary Bettman and second-in-command Bill Daly about this very issue. 

read on

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Ron MacLean Says “There Won’t Be A Lockout”

from Ron MacLean of CBC, 

There won't be a lockout.

Seven years ago, the owners held a powerful upper hand. And more important, the issues were different. Gary Bettman wisely hired Arthur Levitt, the former Chairman of the United States Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC), to produce an audit showing the NHL lost $232 million US in 2003-04.

That gave Bettman public support and believability. The owners were told by their agent, the NHL commissioner, that they could gain a $1 billion with a new CBA and they certainly faced the prospect of losing money if they ran a season. It was an easy decision to shut down.

All Bettman is after in this negotiation is to do what both the NFL and NBA did and trim the players’ percentage of revenues. With the wonderful growth since the last CBA, the players now earn 57 per cent of hockey-related revenues (HRR) and have been getting larger absolute dollar amounts.


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Soon We Could Be Playing “What Ifs”

from Mark Spector of Sportsnet,

It is the first morning after the Labour Day weekend, the beginning of the new fiscal year for hockey people. Summer is over, hockey rinks await, in places like Penticton, Traverse City, or local rinks where pros gather to prep for training camps.

This Tuesday has always been, for those of us lucky enough to make a living on the periphery of the great game, an annual changing of the mindset. There are rookie camps around the corner, followed by main camp, followed by preseason games…

You know the drill, because you are a hockey fan.

This Tuesday morning was, alas, different. We are in a recess, the leaders of the game tell us. It is about hockey related revenues, escrow, and other bleary numbers that do not represent goals and assists.


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Canes Skate, Talk CBA

from Chip Alexander of Canes Now,

The Canes took to the ice today for the first full informal skate at Raleigh Center Ice and the Staals -- of the Carolina variety -- were all in attendance. Eric Staal, the Canes captain, and Jared Staal joined Jordan for about 50 minutes of skating.

The turnout at RCI was pretty impressive. Goaltenders Cam Ward and Justin Peters were there. Defensemen Tim Gleason, Jay Harrison, Joe Corvo, Justin Faulk and Joni Pitkanen. Forwards Jiri Tlusty, Chad LaRose, Anthony Stewart, Andreas Nodl, Pat Dwyer and Zac Dalpe. And, of course, the Staal brothers....

But with the CBA talks now in "recess," no one can say for sure if there will be a lockout come Sept. 15, when the CBA expires. It's all a guessing game for now as to how and when the two sides will be able to agree on a new CBA.

"I'm still optimistic," Jordan Staal said. "There's still a very good chance to make it happen. I know we're getting close to camp time but I think there's still a very good opportunity to start the season.

"I know both sides are trying hard. It seems like we've hit a little bit of a roadblock right now. But hopefully we can get through it and get talking again. Just find a way to get this thing started."

"I think it's going to get worse before it gets better," Gleason said of CBA talks. "I think we have the right guy in the position. I think he's patient. He knows what the players want. And he's been through if before, which is even better. Everybody has confidence in him."


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No CBA Meetings Planned

Numerous reports stated last night and this morning neither the NHL or the NHLPA have tried to schedule the next CBA meeting.

So, plan accordingly and don't worry about some big news today.

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Afternoon Line

... the NHL is no different from the NBA and NFL, which experienced 130 and 181-day lockouts, respectively, when those leagues' collective bargaining agreements were up for renewal last year. It turns out that NFL and NBA owners had risked very little in attempting to strong-arm players into a more favorable split of revenue. The NFL season began on time, and last year's NBA playoffs were amongst the most watched in history, despite the cancelation of 16 regular season games per team. For NBA owners, gambling with largely-meaningless early-season games was worth the potential billions in future revenue they secured for themselves by taking a hard line against the league's players' union.

There's no better evidence that NHL owners were watching the other leagues' aggressive tactics--as well as the players' eventual capitulation--than their demand for an astronomical 57% of league revenue when CBA negotiations opened two weeks ago. The NHL owners still want a 50-50 or better split in revenue, and they are convinced that they get it at relatively little risk. "The players are not stupid," says Allen Sanderson, an economist at the University of Chicago. "But the owners are not stupid either. They've got to be looking at what happened at in the NFL and NBA and betting that they're going to prevail."

-The Atlantic where you can read more on the CBA negotiations.

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