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This Sure Doesn’t Sound Like Good News

from the CP at TSN,

"(I'm) not sure there is any reason to meet if there is nothing new to say," deputy commissioner Bill Daly told The Canadian Press in an email. "Our position was communicated to the union pretty clearly last Tuesday and then again on Thursday.

"If they have a desire to meet with regard to the proposal we have on the table, they know how to reach us."

The sides touched base by phone over the weekend following a busy few days that saw each of them table new offers. They had been expected to gather in New York at some point this week.

"They say they want a deal but then they say they only want to meet if it is on their terms," said Steve Fehr, the NHLPA's special counsel. "Strange. That is not the way to reach an agreement. Bargaining is give and take -- not just take."


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Report- Back At The Negotiating Table Later This Week?

from Katie Strang of ESPN New York,

 With Thursday's deadline looming and a full 82-game season hanging in the balance, the NHL and NHLPA have not made any plans to meet again following last week's proposal-swapping debacle.

Although one source with knowledge of negotiations told ESPNNewYork.com that talks are likely to resume at some point this week, no meeting had been scheduled as of late Monday afternoon.

Both NHLPA special counsel Steve Fehr and NHL deputy commissioner Bill Daly spoke over the weekend, but did not mark the calendar for a formal bargaining session. According to a source briefed on the conversation, the league and the union had a conference call to seek clarification on hockey-related revenue issues, but did not resume negotiations.

When will the two sides meet next?

"Don't know," Daly told ESPNNewYork.com via email. "We will see what happens in the next couple of days."


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Hockey Notes With Some Bite

via Damian Cox of The Spin,

- The bile directed towards Gary Bettman is ridiculous and misplaced. But I will say this. His number one priority every season should be to get the season started on time, every time. He has failed. And while working with that dysfunctional players union must be next to impossible, resorting to the lockout time after time shows a lack of creativity in problem-solving by a commish who should have other answers by now.

- Talk to people in some fragile markets down south. The lockout is having devastating results. But the players and owners seem blissfully unaware.

- Not sure marginal NHL agent Allan Walsh realizes what a fool he's making of himself on Twitter these days. He's gone from being outspoken to idiotic.

- One thing we know for sure; if the NHL just opened it's door for business and established new working parameters, and if the NHLPA then went on strike, players around the world would cross that picket line in a flash. NHLers have proven they have no respect for anyone else's job.

- That Craig Leipold was one of the NHL owners in the room last Thursday is nothing short of a bad joke.

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If They Really Love Our Game

from David Shoalts of the Globe and Mail,

This is the week we’ll discover if all those people on both sides of the NHL lockout love hockey as much as they promise while holding the game for ransom.

Thursday may be yet another deadline imposed only by NHL commissioner Gary Bettman and the owners as the final day to save a full 82-game season but unlike the Sept. 15 one when the previous collective agreement expired, it is one grounded in reality. Unless the players and owners make serious progress toward an agreement this week, there simply would not be enough time to shoehorn 82 games into the calendar and still finish the Stanley Cup final by the end of June, a outrageously late date to be sure, and still allow the players some semblance of rest between games.

Since both sides acknowledge their latest offers show there is a deal to be made, that a 50-50 share of revenue is now the admitted goal, the solution is going to lie with the moderates among the owners and players. They have to start nudging, well, pushing really, the hard-liners among them to a deal.


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Some Wiggle Room When Talking Full NHL Schedule

from Elliotte Friedman of CBC,

The NHL badly wants an 82-game season starting on November 2. That would mean agreeing on the hockey-related revenue split, a formula for paying players what they are owed on their current contracts, and all the contract/salary arbitration/free agency issues. Both sides ratify the deal (unless they somehow decide to play while working on it), everyone overseas returns for a quick training camp, and teams make whatever moves they've been waiting on.

Do you see all that getting done in 11 days? Me neither. The only way it happens is if Bettman and Donald Fehr prove they've been wasting everyone's time by "suddenly" pulling proposals from their briefcases the other side might agree on.

So, how much time do they really have to play 82 games?

With the help of our baby's Fisher-Price counting toy, it looks like there is a tiny bit of wiggle room. 

read on plus 30 thoughts...

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Make The Right Deal

from Ken Campbell of The Hockey News,

What the league has to do is grow some and hold out for the deal it needs. It should not be concerned with saving the season. Its primary objective should be saving the business because this cycle of lockouts is getting rather old. If that means a shortened season or no season at all, so be it. Do not cave to the segment of fans whose only answer to this lockout is to lock the owners and players into a room until a deal is done, or just get a deal done already because we don’t care about these issues.

Just bloody well get it right this time.


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Agreement Needed This Week For A Full NHL Schedule

from Pierr LeBrun of ESPN,

The pressure is on. At this point, a whole season can be saved. Once games start to get cancelled past Nov. 2, both owners and players start to lose money they won’t get back. 

"If we end up missing and not rescheduling games through Nov. 2, we will have over $330 million in lost revenue," Daly told ESPN.com Monday morning. 

No question, the league and owners want to instill the fear of God into players this week with that notion. As one NHL team executive told ESPN.com Sunday, there’s either a deal this week or there’s no season at all because he believes the moderate owners who have pushed hard for a deal to be made will be so infuriated with players that they'll line up behind the hard-line owners and allow this thing to go nuclear if there’s no agreement this week. 

I'm not ready to go that far. Labor negotiations in pro sports tend to produce fictitious deadlines that are moved when it's convenient. So I suspect if enough traction and progress has moved both sides closer by the end of this week, Bettman's Thursday, Oct. 25, deadline can be pushed a little. 

But no matter how you look at it, if you’re an owner or a player who wants a full 82-game season, you want the leader on your side to deliver the goods this week. 


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Sergei Kostitsyn Wants An Answer

via Reuters at the Globe and Mail,

Nashville Predators winger Sergei Kostitsyn, who joined Russian club Avangard Omsk during a work stoppage in the National Hockey League (NHL), hopes the lockout will lead to the cancellation of the entire season.

“Let’s put it this way – it would be better (for the players) if the lockout continues,” Kostitsyn was quoted as saying by Russian daily Sport-Express on Monday.

“Players want a definite answer. If the NHL season is lost – let it be that way. I would then play in Russia for the whole season.”...

Kostitsyn, 25, who joined the Predators from the Montreal Canadiens in June 2010, also said he hated life in North America and labelled Columbus “the gloomiest” city in the States.

“I couldn’t get used to (American) mentality. They are totally different people from us,” said the Belarussian, who was twice suspended by the Canadiens in 2009 after failing to report to their minor league team in Hamilton.

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Morning Line

 ...We want to play, we're the ones who are doing the show in the NHL, but Bettman thinks it makes him. It is unfortunate that the NHL have such a guy. It's a shame for the entire hockey world. Treats us like animals....

-David Krejci of the Boston Bruins while playing in Europe during the lockout.  More (you may have to run it through Google Translate) via iSport.cz with Krejci.

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What You See Is What You Get With Donald Fehr

from Jeff Z. Klein of the New York Times,

Last week was a dismal one for Donald Fehr and the N.H.L. Players’ Association, and not just because the owners flatly rejected the union’s offer to settle the N.H.L. lockout. For the first time since negotiations began last summer, public opinion seemed to have shifted: many fans, who had been blaming Commissioner Gary Bettman and the owners for the impasse, started to blame Fehr and the players.

Yet none of that is likely to sway Fehr, perhaps North America’s most effective union leader over the past three decades. He has drawn fans’ wrath before, but his accomplishments are enormous. As head of the Major League Baseball Players Association from 1983 to 2009, Fehr thwarted efforts to impose a salary cap and kept players’ salaries high. In three years with the N.H.L. Players’ Association, he repaired a hopelessly fractured union and readied it for confrontation with the owners.

Players understand that this is something in which they all have to hang together,” Fehr said. “You can paraphrase Benjamin Franklin: if we don’t hang together, we’re going to hang separately.”

Fehr is something of an anachronism: an ardent trade unionist in an era when the power of unions outside of sports is shrinking.


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