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For now, no deal, and no sign of one any time soon. Nuclear winter, redux. Hockey Fright in Canada and the US. The owners won cost certainty, in the form of the cap, with the cudgel of the last lockout. Now they’re angling for profit certainty, using the same model, clawing back a larger piece of the gross take and telling the players to make due with hundreds of millions of dollars less — hand in hand with huge concessions in contract language. Little wonder it’s at a standstill. And it will be no surprise if the season is lost, though that decision likely would not come until approximately mid-January. Best to figure we’re in a 100-day countdown at this hour.

-Kevin Paul Dupont of the Boston Globe where you can read more on the lockout and other hockey topics.

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Hey Bob McKenzie, What’s Your Opinion On The CBA Negotiations




More overnight tweets from Bob McKenzie...

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Hurry Before It Melts

from Nicholas J. Cotsonika of Yahoo,

 Imagine the Big Four meeting Friday in Toronto -- NHL commissioner Gary Bettman and his deputy, Bill Daly; NHL Players' Association executive director Don Fehr and his brother, Steve Fehr.

Now imagine a popsicle sitting in the center of the table. The Big Four's job is to divide it. 

Because the popsicle is already out of the freezer, it is melting steadily, drip by drip, day by day. The faster the Big Four reach an agreement, the more they will have to divide. The longer they take, the less will be left. Eventually, there comes a point where the popsicle won't be a popsicle anymore -- just a pool of goo, a sticky mess.

The NHL lockout is a textbook bargaining dilemma. Literally. The popsicle metaphor has been used in college textbooks like the one written by Rodney Fort, a professor of sports management at the University of Michigan.

"How long can the owners wait?" Fort said. "How long can the players wait?"

Fort's conclusion: not long.


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All Donald Fehr And Gary Bettman

from Jeff Blair of the Globe and Mail, 

Q: Does the court of public opinion matter for you and the NHLPA?

Fehr: Obviously the public matters. Those are the fans, the people who ultimately buy the tickets and watch the game on TV and you want to try and explain everything you can. You want to see if the fans can understand your position, that the public perception of the particular dispute is as close to what we think the facts and the circumstances are. If you’re asking me about public opinion in the sense of taking a poll of people who are not familiar with the comprehensive nature of negotiations and all the rest of it, and then negotiating on the basis of what the results of that poll happen to be? The answer is no, any more than you would if I was representing a reader in a lawsuit and I said: ‘I have no idea what your legal position is, let’s take a poll and see what they say.’

Q: How important is it that when this is all said and done, the reputation of individual players hasn’t been damaged?

A: It’s essential that the players be involved and be involved intimately and knowledgeably, that they participate collectively and make the decisions that need to be made. When you get into negotiations which involve dispute, there are going to be times when the conversation is more heated than you might like it and tempers might flare. I would be very surprised if anybody on the other side took off after individual players or tried to make them look bad and if they did I think the only effect that would have would be to enhance that player’s stature in the eyes of other players enormously.


from Roy MacGregor of the Globe and Mail, 

Q: Does the court of public opinion matter?

Bettman: Ultimately it does.

What our fans want, what our fans believe, what our fans are interested in is why we are what we are. But, nevertheless, ultimately we have to do the things that we believe are essential for the long-term health of the game, of the league and of all of our franchises.


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Are Both Sides Ready To Compromise?


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Player Agent Allan Walsh On The Lockout

from Dave Feschuk of the Toronto Star,

To Walsh, the truth behind the lockout goes like this:

“It’s clear to most people that the NHL has been planning this lockout for a long time. It’s clear, with the way the NBC deal was negotiated and the $200 million payment whether games are played or not, that the NHL has been laying the groundwork for this lockout for a significant period of time. Based on the best offer on the table before Sept. 15, it’s clear the NHL never made a serious attempt to make a deal before declaring a lockout,” Walsh says. “The powers that be in the NHL feel they will get a much better deal from the players once the players are softened up and locked out over a period of time. And there was no serious interest on the league’s side to make a deal.”

How will it end?

“I have no idea,” he says.

It’s here that Walsh points out that when he tweets or speaks, he’s not doing so in the name of his players or the players’ union. He’s giving his opinion, sharing what he feels is pertinent information. He says that, judging from the responses he gets on Twitter, some fans erroneously consider him a spokesman for the NHLPA.

read more on the once deputy district attorney Allan Walsh...

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They Meet Again

Quietly, Bettman, Daly and the Fehr brothers meet in Toronto today according to numerous reports.

Nothing esle to report at this time.

added 3:35pm,


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Wake Me When The Games Start

from Eric Francis of the Calgary Herald,

The NHL has gone from whiteouts to white noise in five months.

Just let us know when you fix it.

Until then, the conversation in cafes, bars, living rooms and offices that used to revolve around which side is more to blame has essentially made like Kristian Huselius and disappeared.

It has been replaced with apathy — the most dangerous fallout from all this.

The masses in hockey-mad Calgary have tuned it out and could care less right now about the game we call our own.

Just imagine how all this is playing out south of the border, where, for the most part, the NHL has been ignored anyway.


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Waiting For A New Proposal

from Pierre LeBrun of ESPN, 

Both sides in the NHL’s labor impasse are a little gun shy with new proposals. 

You have to think that will soon change, but there have been no new proposals tabled by either the NHL or the NHL Players’ Association since their dueling, rejected offers on Sept. 12. 

The NHL has been front and center in saying the process won’t progress until the players bring forward a new proposal. 

The NHLPA in return feels like it’s been the only side willing to compromise at all in any of its previous offers. 

My sense, in speaking to various sources over the past few days, is that both sides, to a degree, are a little trepid to drop the next new offer for fear that the other side will simply pocket whatever compromise is included in that new offer and then use it as part of a future offer. 

There’s history here. 

When the NHLPA dropped a bombshell offer in December 2004 to roll back salaries 24 percent, the league indeed pocketed that juicy baby in every single version of its future proposals, and, when the lockout ended in 2005, the 24 percent rollback was part of the new CBA. 


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You Call This Respect?

from Mark Spector of Sportsnet,

"I'm waiting for the owners who love the game and want to play to say 'Enough is enough,'" Buffalo goalie Ryan Miller told (Josh) Rimer. "If they showed us they have respect for the game and respect for the players the deal would come much sooner than using a lockout to hurt us."

The NHL game has paid Ryan Miller over $27 million in lifetime earnings. It sounds like the game has shown plenty of respect to the son of an East Lansing software consultant, a multi- multi-millionaire who has wed a Hollywood actress.

Then again, maybe we're just out of touch with what "respect" means these days. Or the kind of life a hockey player is supposed to be satisfied with.


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