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Throw The NHL Proposal Out The Window

from TSN and ESPN files,

The National Hockey League will withdraw its latest CBA proposal to the NHL Players' Association once Thursday's deadline to finalize a new deal passes.

There were no talks held between both sides on Thursday and none have been held since last week's NHL proposal and counter-proposals from the NHLPA.

"When we delivered the proposal last Tuesday, we told them it would be on the table through today," NHL deputy commissioner Bill Daly told TSN Hockey Insider Pierre LeBrun on ESPN.com Thursday afternoon. "Having not reached agreement through today, I expect that we'll formally notify the union Friday that the proposal is no longer on the table. We're going to take it back internally and figure out where we go from here."
 
Daly also emphasized that he was not threatening the players in any way, but underlying what the league had already told the the NHLPA last Tuesday when it delivered the proposal.

continued

Here is a story from Pierre LeBrun from ESPN with the same message.

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It May Get Worse

from Jonathan Gatehouse of MACLEANS,

The fans are angry. But maybe the more appropriate response is sorrow. Sadness that those who run the game, and those who play it, can’t break a cycle that continually wastes its potential.

“I think they had tremendous momentum going in the U.S. market,” says Brian Cooper, the president of S&E Sponsorship Group, a Toronto firm that brokers arrangements between sports leagues and businesses. “They have the winter classic, where they claimed New Year’s Day for themselves. They had the HBO series. They were getting under the helmet and putting faces to the new stars of the game. And now we have momentum interruptus, and that’s not good for any brand.”

But with talks between the NHL and its players’ association at a standstill, there are indications that things are about to take a decided turn for the worse. 

read on

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Refusing To Negotiate

via Jordan Shifman (fan post of the day) at CBC,

"No point meeting at this point": Bettman on NHL labour talks

In other words..."it's our way or the highway" The NHL is not willing to negotiate, Bettman and the owners aren't willing to listen to any offers other than their own. The NHLPA made the last 3 offers, all offering a 50/50 split of revenues, all turned down in less than 15 minutes. Was that even enough time to read them?? It's the NHL's turn to make an offer or at least listen to what the other side is saying.

"There is a major divide between the sides over how to deal with existing player contracts." What is the problem here? How to deal with existing player contracts is to honor them whether you like it or not. The owners had no problem signing these ridiculous contracts and now they don't want to honor them?

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Afternoon Line

"Given the fact they’ve got $3.3 billion in revenue, I believe instead of fighting each other all the time, if there was a clear collaborative effort between players and owners once and for all, that $3.3 billion could be $5 billion. The NHL needs a culture more like the NFL and less like MLB."

-former Buffalo Sabres president Larry Quinn.  More from Quinn via Pierre LeBrun of ESPN.

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Fewer NHL Teams

from Eric Duhatschek of the Globe and Mail, 

The players believe the problem can be addressed by enhancing the existing revenue-sharing system, which would (from their perspective) have the added benefit of preserving jobs in every one of those struggling markets. But a second, far more draconian solution is equally plausible, one which would be supported by anyone who believes the existing NHL talent pool is spread far too thinly across 30 teams:

Just shrink the NHL to a more manageable size by dumping cities that cannot support their teams, without massive handouts from the league’s richest franchises.

Consider what a smaller NHL looked like on the ice, even a single generation ago.

In 1991, in the 21-team era, the Pittsburgh Penguins won a Stanley Cup with six current Hall of Famers on the roster (Mario Lemieux, Paul Coffey, Ron Francis, Joe Mullen, Larry Murphy and Bryan Trottier), along with one future Hall Of Famer (Jaromir Jagr), a two-time 50-goal scorer (Kevin Stevens) and a couple of other players that still have an outside chance at making the HHOF grade (Tom Barrasso, Mark Recchi).

At the start of their dynasty, the 1984 Edmonton Oilers boasted five players that would go on to becoming leading playoff scorers of all time (Wayne Gretzky, Mark Messier, Jari Kurri, Glenn Anderson and Coffey). They too are in the Hall of Fame.

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Video- President Obama On The Lockout

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Afternoon Line

“To all of a sudden sign a deal that changes your life and makes things better for you and your family, someone tries to take that away from you, it’s insulting and, quite frankly, it’s embarrassing for (the league) as well.  We only have a limited time to play and earn a living as hockey player,s and we’re doing everything we can. Every guy has worked hard for that. We can be proud to stand up for what we stood up for so far, and there’s no shame in that.”

-Jonathan Toews of the Chicago Black Hawks on the NHL negotiations.  More from Toews and Patrick Kane at CSN Chicago.

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A Bettman Warning

After today's press conference regarding the Islanders move....

 

 

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How A Deal Gets Done

from Dan Oldfield at CBC,

So it's hard to see any compelling reason for this to continue. Other than stubbornness.

That will be overcome, but the question is when.

Maybe this week? Maybe next? Or in a month?

After that, the deal should come together fairly quickly — in a matter of days. I see it happening like this:

Day 1

Steve Fehr and Bill Daly come to the realization that neither the league's nor the player's latest proposals will resolve the outstanding issues, but agree that a combination of the offers can get it done. They will initially agree to meet in person, off the record, and not for publication.

read on for three more days and guess what, a deal is done...

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Negotiating With The Right Intentions

from Pierre LeBrun of ESPN,

I honestly do not believe Fehr had any intention of trying to hammer out a deal this week in the face of Bettman’s Oct. 25 deadline. I think Fehr believes you can still have an 82-game season starting after Nov. 2, and I think his game plan this week, perhaps even next, is to make the NHL sweat it out a bit more. 

On the one hand, you can see how that could be a stroke of genius given how desperately most owners want to have an 82-game season -- aka 41 home dates in their coffers -- and have a deal in place ASAP. 

On the other hand, it could also lead to a nuclear war. Moderate owners who were pushing Bettman to get a deal done, pushing him to deliver that offer last week, might get so incensed with Fehr that the gloves come off and the hard-line owners will now get back in control of this ship. ...


I will say what I've said for more than a week: I do believe the league is willing to concede in some areas of the player contract demands it made. 

There are two ways to get out of this ridiculous logjam: either the league clarifies officially to the players that it does indeed have some flexibility when it comes to the rest of the framework of the deal, which I quoted Daly in my blog Tuesday saying as much; or the NHLPA drums up a new offer. 

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