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Fehr Talks After Today’s NHLPA Meeting

from Ben Kuzma of The White Towel at the Vancouver Province,

KELOWNA — NHLPA executive director Donald Fehr negotiates privately behind closed doors rather than publicly in front of a sea of microphones. However, it’s not surprising that the NHL owners’ proposal for a new collective bargaining agreement that includes contracts limited to five years with entry-level deals going from three to five years, the abolishment of arbitration and 10 years of service required to become an unrestricted free agent has rubbed the players the wrong way.

“It’s no secret that there are things that are very important to players and they become more important in certain kinds of systems,” Fehr said Tuesday after concluding two days of meetings here with 38 NHLPA members. “What would it take to get players to move off those kind of things would be major concessions on the other side. A concession is when you give up something you have, not when you modify a position about something you don’t have. If somebody said I asked for everything you have and now I’ll only take half of everything you have, that’s not a concession. It’s when I say I’ll give you something.”


added 6:25pm, TSN has video of Fehr meeting with the media after today’s session.

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Afternoon Line

Jeremy Roenick did a radio interview last night with Josh Rimer of NextSportStar and discussed numerous topics including the CBA, Shane Doan and as you can see, Sidney Crosby.

You can download the whole show (339mb, .mov file) if you care to watch/listen from start to finish.

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The Bottom Line Is The Owners Want More Money

from Ed Willes of the Vancouver Province,

The owners want more money. This is all you need to know about the current impasse.

Eight years after the game was shut down for a season, the owners and their henchman Gary Bettman are back. They got everything they wanted last time - a reduction in salaries, a hard cap, entry-level restrictions, and all with only modest revenue sharing - and they said that deal would insure the game’s prosperity.

Now they want more. Now they want to fix it so they can’t lose.

Maybe it’s understandable. They crushed the union last time. They feel they can do it again.


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Evening Line

Is it a perfect CBA? No, but both sides get their principal points done. In the end, it walks as close down the middle as one feasibly can and would leave a number of constituents on both sides grumbling. Most importantly, I can only imagine that a few extremists on either side would absolutely hate this, which means it’s doable.

Of course CBA negotiations rarely get to a middle-of-the-road compromise—they usually lean one way or the other. But how about they bring this model to their big meeting on Wednesday and use it as a starting point?

-Mike Chen at SB Nation where you can continue reading to see Mike’s proposal.

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Will The Owners Share?

from Morgan Campbell of the Toronto Star,

An Ottawa-based economic think tank has a solution to the National Hockey League’s labour headaches that fans of small-market teams will love, but owners of the league’s cash cows will probably loathe — competitive balance through extensive revenue sharing.

With the league’s collective bargaining agreement set to expire Sept. 15, owners have proposed a new deal that includes trimming the players’ share of revenue from 57 per cent to 46 per cent. While that approach might ensure even money-losing franchises would break even, Glen Hodgson of the Conference Board of Canada says players would never accept it.

And neither would fans.

“The (average) fan says put some revenue sharing options on the table as a way to get this done,” says Hodgson, the Conference Board’s senior vice president and chief economist. “(But) that means rich teams are going to have to give up some money.”


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Afternoon Line

I’ve been told since before the NFL lockout that the NHL would have big problems this time around.

I’ve mentioned here a convention in D.C. last summer when 600 sports lawyers, agents, etc., where the union heads and management reps in labor negotiations of the NFL, NHL, NBA and MLB were almost all in attendance and spoke at length, took questions.

It was clear that the NHL was more likely to lose games, or a season with a lockout than the NFL. So I expect bad news, because that’s how the owners want it, rather than good news.

These labor wars get set up YEARS in advance. The public is told “It’s not so bad. It’ll get worked out,” even when people on the inside know that they are planning for it NOT to work out and just want to delay the date when they start taking flack for missing games.

I’d be glad to be wrong on the NHL. But the way to bet is that it’s worse than you think it is.

-Washington Post columnist Thomas Boswell via Capitals Insider.


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Owners In Control

from Patrick Rishe at Forbes,

So how in the name of Gordie Howe and Guy Lafleur can NHLPA Executive Director Donald Fehr expect that his players will be able to get anything better than 50% of league revenues in their current negotiations?

Comparisons of Nielsen Ratings and League Revenues across sports show that the NHL is still less popular relative to the NFL and NBA.  The NHL earned $3.2 billion in 2011-12, or nearly $600 million less than the last full NBA season ($3.8 billion for the 2010-11 season), and roughly 3 times less than the NFL’s $9.4 billion.

Furthermore, NHL owners proved during the 2004-05 lockout that they are prepared to show considerable resolve.  Arguably, they are in a better position to do so now because of the massive $200 million per year TV deal with NBC that started last year.

Translation?  If athletes from an astronomically popular sport (NFL) and athletes from a popular sport enjoying a renaissance of interest (NBA) are losing revenue share to their owners, then the odds that NHL players will avoid a similar fate are about as likely as a 100-degree day during hockey season in Winnipeg, eh.


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The Lockout Commissioner

from Jack Todd at the Montreal Gazette,

You get the feeling that Gary Bettman loves his lockouts. This is Bettman’s thing. Shut down the league. Grind the players to powder. Go back to the owners and get his own salary bumped up for having satisfied the owners’ greed.

Then come back five or 10 years later and say that the salary system he shut down the league to get is unworkable, so he has to shut it down again. Why? Because he wants to. Because he can.

Last time round, it seemed like the owners had a case. We were on the fence, until the latter stages of the lockout, when Bettman morphed into Richard M. Nixon.

This time, it is Bettman who has presented an entirely irrational plan, one the NHLPA would be mad to accept — and it is PA executive director Donald Fehr who responded with a response so rational, so well thought out, that we actually hoped Bettman might accept it, at least as a starting point for a new approach.




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Afternoon Line

“If we are partners, do we have joint control?”  Do we get to have an equal say on how the marketing is done, how the promotion is done, where the money is invested, where the franchises are located? Do we have an equal say on when teams are sold, where the money goes? Do we get part of that? Do we have an equal say on how the television arrangements are done? Do we have an equal say on anything? That’s what a partnership normally implies.”

-Donald Fehr.  More on the CBA talks from Jeff Z. Klein of Slap Shot at the New York Times.

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Would You Call This A Crooked Line In The Sand?

from Aaron Portzline of the Columbus Dispatch,

...But the line between owners and players is not drawn in the classic sense. Revenue-sharing could become the key point because of how it could affect small-market clubs, a group of eight to 10 franchises that includes the Blue Jackets.

Because of this, it’s possible that as talks progress, they could pit owner against owner. The small-market owners could find themselves siding with players against the large-market owners, the power-brokers in the league.“I think as many as eight NHL owners would accept the NHLPA’s initial proposal,” said an NHL player agent who spoke to The Dispatch on the condition of anonymity. “And there’s probably four to six others who would find the proposal acceptable enough that they could tweak a couple of things and live with it.”

But don’t expect any owner to acknowledge that publicly. The NHL has threatened a fine of at least $1 million to any club that speaks out during the lockout.Any disagreement would have to be confined to private talks among owners. One NHL executive told The Dispatch last week that Bettman has the “full support of every owner in the room right now.”

Boston owner Jeremy Jacobs and Philadelphia owner Ed Snider hold considerable sway with Bettman and are strongly opposed to revenue-sharing. Those clubs, along with Chicago, Detroit, Montreal, the New York Rangers, Toronto and Vancouver, would stand to lose the most revenue.



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