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There Is Always Hope

Even though all signs point against a new CBA by September 15th, why does my gut tell me it will be agreed upon?

Maybe it is just the "fan" in me, hoping against all hope but if you look at this logically, there is no way there should be a lockout, even for one day.

Both sides have too much to lose by not reaching an agreement.

Hopefully they realize that and come to an agreement before this gets real ugly.

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Fehr Has The Attention Of The Players

from Sean Fitz-Gerald of the National Post,

During a two-day information session with union leaders at an upscale Toronto hotel, National Hockey League players were shown graphs, given handouts and asked to absorb some of the data culled from the more than 76,000 pages of financial documents provided by the league last month.
Max Talbot took notes.

“It is scary, as a whole, but it is way simpler than most people think,” the Philadelphia Flyers forward said. “And Don is such a good communicator. You should see a room when he talks. He keeps our focus for four hours straight.”

Don is Donald Fehr, the long-time baseball union leader who became executive director of the National Hockey League Players’ Association two years ago. He was holding the last of the union’s regional meetings on Friday in Toronto, with a session that lasted close to three hours. Since the NHL delivered its first collective bargaining proposal last month, Fehr has been across the world to discuss strategy with union members. The 64-year-old has travelled to Moscow, Barcelona, Chicago and Kelowna, B.C., to discuss strategy, face-to-face.


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Do The Owners Know What They Are Doing?

from Tim Colishaw of the Dallas Morning News,

Siding with ownership has been difficult in any of sport’s “labor wars” of the last 30-40 years. But the NHL owners may have captured the gold medal for incompetence with their threats to lock out the players in three weeks.
Seriously, this is going to happen. And for many of you, I realize the next question is: So what?

That’s one of the problems that commissioner Gary Bettman and the owners just don’t get. I’ve always thought instead of having league offices in New York and Toronto, they should move them to say, Raleigh, N.C., and Phoenix to get a better grip on just how relevant their sport isn’t in some of their own communities….

The owners’ problem is that the players now have longtime baseball negotiator Donald Fehr on their side. Fehr’s a man who (no pun intended) must live in fear of those late-night phone calls from his mentor, 95-year-old Marvin Miller, saying, “You gave the owners what?”

I would love to think that after Bettman met with Fehr in Toronto on Wednesday, owners will realize what they’re up against and propose something realistic that will lead to a settlement.

But that’s putting enormous belief in the sanity and intelligence of an ownership group that historically has shown us little of either one.


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What Could Happen Next With The CBA Talks

from Michael Grange of Sportsnet,

What is getting easier to predict is that the opportunities to prevent a lockout—and perhaps a long one—are beginning to run short. There is frustration creeping in on both sides and the feeling in the owners camp is that if the players aren’t willing to move their position on Tuesday there might be a real impasse and talks will simply break down.

“Sometimes the best way to get a deal is to take a break,” said one source close to the negotiations.

For obvious reasons—history being the main one—the players don’t trust the owners, arguing that even should Bettman show some flexibility in how to achieve the salary cuts he wants, a salary cut is a salary cut is a salary cut.

Meanwhile the owners aren’t sure what to make of Fehr at this stage; how much of the resistance he’s been showing is posturing and how much is real.


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The Cup Belongs To US (Canada)

from Colby Cosh of MACLEANS,

Canadians who are capable of outrage, if there are any, should make their views known to the League, to the trustees, to the front offices of their local NHL clubs, to their cousin who plays on the fourth line of the Preds, to their MP and their Senators, to their local newspaper, to their barroom buddies… in short, they should make nuisances of themselves. And lawyers, who excel at making nuisances of themselves, should follow Tim Gilbert’s example and think about what they could do to free the Cup from its fetters. There must be a half-dozen future Orders of Canada in such a project.

Are we the doormat of nations? Let us at least begin to murmur angrily. The Cup is ours. When we say “Not again” as the NHL’s negotiations with its players bog down, let our tone be wrathful, poisonous, rather than despairing.

much more...

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Optimism Fading

from Tom Benjamin of canuckscorner,

I’m feeling a lot less optimistic after the meetings this week between the NHL and the NHLPA. Gary Bettman did not respond positively to the NHLPA proposal – and by that I mean he did not soften the league position at all – so it is now clear that the league is on a path that was laid out years ago, about the time the ink on the last CBA was drying.

Gary Bettman today: “We think we’re paying too much in salaries… We want something close to what we envisioned eight years ago.”

(I can’t be surprised at this because the system that emerged in 2005 put the players squarely in the crosshairs for 2012. The NFL and NBA learned from the NHL lockout and all three leagues are sitting in the catbird seat. The idea that Gary Bettman and his cronies would put any value on labour peace at all was wishful thinking.)

The real problem, of course, is that Bettman is not afraid of any long term damage from a lockout. When asked about that today, he responded with “We recovered last time because we have the world’s greatest fans.” Gary crowed about this factor at a meeting in Boston earlier this year.


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Idle Threats

from Cathal Kelly of the Toronto Star,

There is no reason for Gary Bettman to fear a lockout, or even the loss of an entire season. History has already taught him that a year off is good for business.  A year off reminds his captive audience what they’re missing.

Despite the handwringing from the grassroots types and those who want to see the game thrive in the tropics, lockouts are good for the NHL.

We hear the same noise this time around that we heard last: “Fans will move on … they’ll be too angry to tune back in … the NHL will be replaced by — what? — the CFL?”

It’s nonsense and we all know it. Hockey fans aren’t going anywhere. They’ll linger around the locked gates for a month, or three months or a year, grumbling. And when someone removes the padlock and invites them back in, they’ll come.

They may be upset, and it may take a while, but they’ll all come back eventually. They have nowhere else to go.

The people who think a work stoppage can kill the love of the professional game are making this mistake — they think of hockey fandom as transactional, as some sort of retail experience.


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Fehr Talks After Today’s NHLPA Meeting

from Ben Kuzma of The White Towel at the Vancouver Province,

KELOWNA — NHLPA executive director Donald Fehr negotiates privately behind closed doors rather than publicly in front of a sea of microphones. However, it’s not surprising that the NHL owners’ proposal for a new collective bargaining agreement that includes contracts limited to five years with entry-level deals going from three to five years, the abolishment of arbitration and 10 years of service required to become an unrestricted free agent has rubbed the players the wrong way.

“It’s no secret that there are things that are very important to players and they become more important in certain kinds of systems,” Fehr said Tuesday after concluding two days of meetings here with 38 NHLPA members. “What would it take to get players to move off those kind of things would be major concessions on the other side. A concession is when you give up something you have, not when you modify a position about something you don’t have. If somebody said I asked for everything you have and now I’ll only take half of everything you have, that’s not a concession. It’s when I say I’ll give you something.”


added 6:25pm, TSN has video of Fehr meeting with the media after today’s session.

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Afternoon Line

Jeremy Roenick did a radio interview last night with Josh Rimer of NextSportStar and discussed numerous topics including the CBA, Shane Doan and as you can see, Sidney Crosby.

You can download the whole show (339mb, .mov file) if you care to watch/listen from start to finish.

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The Bottom Line Is The Owners Want More Money

from Ed Willes of the Vancouver Province,

The owners want more money. This is all you need to know about the current impasse.

Eight years after the game was shut down for a season, the owners and their henchman Gary Bettman are back. They got everything they wanted last time - a reduction in salaries, a hard cap, entry-level restrictions, and all with only modest revenue sharing - and they said that deal would insure the game’s prosperity.

Now they want more. Now they want to fix it so they can’t lose.

Maybe it’s understandable. They crushed the union last time. They feel they can do it again.


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