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from the MontrealCanadiens,
With the Canadiens spending half of every season on the road, we decided to ask the players for their take on what’s hot and what’s not across the NHL’s 29 other destinations in Canada and the United States.
Jeff Petry- Probably Dallas. There’s just one guy (laughs).
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from the Montreal Canadiens website,
When hockey players decide to hang up their skates, their desire to stay connected to the sport they played and were so very passionate about since childhood, is still as strong as ever before. Some end up working directly with their respective teams, while some decide to work on the other side of the microphone as TV or radio analysts. Many Habs alums now cover the Canadiens in one way or another, and we caught up with a few of them to learn more about their transition to the media. This week, we have Jose Theodore, who is an analyst for TVA Sports...
What was your perception of hockey journalists when you played? Has it changed now that you’re on the other side?
JT: As a player, it was definitely difficult to accept being criticized by those who had never played in the NHL, those who never had to make the same sacrifices it takes to get there. As a player it was an aspect of the relationship that I had a hard time accepting. It has not really changed nowadays because people will also always criticize the fact that I didn’t have to go through specific training or schooling in order to do my job. But when it comes to analyzing a game or situation, we former players know what we are talking about. I think that's why the television networks want us. We are not here to steal anyone’s job but at the same time our opinions are well respected.
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from Ken Campbell of The Hockey News,
Matt Pfeffer had made peace with the fact that the Montreal Canadiens were going to trade star defenseman P.K. Subban. But he didn’t think dealing Subban to the Nashville Predators for Shea Weber was a good idea and he made his feelings known to Canadiens management. But Pfeffer is not convinced that is why his contract as an analytics consultant with the Canadiens was not renewed.
“They didn’t tell me it was over that,” Pfeffer told thn.com. “But I guess everyone knows now where I stood on the Subban-Weber trade. There are times when there’s some possibility that there would be another side to the argument, but this was one of those things where it was so, so far outside what could be considered reasonable. I made a pretty strong case, but I made the case that the analytics made. This wasn’t a personal thing.”
So Pfeffer believes the Canadiens are ultimately going to get fleeced on this trade. He can’t speculate on why the Canadiens didn’t take his advice, but it tells us that when it comes to analytics and its place in decision making, the NHL establishment is still very much finding its way.
“The person I reported (director of legal affairs/capologist John Sedgwick) to liked my work and the methodology behind it and believed in it,” Pfeffer said, “and there were others inside the team that didn’t believe in it and maybe had their mind made up about advanced stats. I think there’s been a bit of pushback from people in the NHL recently about this kind of stuff.”
from Pat Hickey of the Montreal Gazette,
I think general manager Marc Bergevin was disingenuous when he said he wasn’t shopping Subban. He may not have initiated any of the talks, but he was certainly listening to offers. I also believe he looked on the deal for Shea Weber as a hockey deal that will help the Canadiens, at least in the short term.
The Canadiens need size and Weber and has five or six inches on Subban. He’ll offer more protection for Price and his wonky knee. He has been described as an intimidator, a term that has never been applied to Subban. He’s an upgrade on the power play. By all accounts, he’s boring on and off the ice and that’s fine with the Canadiens.
Frustrated fans have to separate the past from the present. Last season was a disaster, but there’s every reason to believe that the Canadiens are headed in the right direction.
Some Habs critics point to the Detroit Red Wings as a success story, but they’ve won only one playoff round in the past four seasons and they had the best coach in the world for three of those seasons. The Canadiens with their supposedly mediocre GM and coach have won three series in the same span.
“I love Montreal. I’ve always loved the city, and when it really comes down to it, I never envisioned myself playing for any other team.”
In his first television appearance since being traded to the Nashville Predators, former Montreal Canadiens defenceman P.K. Subban sat down with Sportsnet's Eric Engels for a two-part interview to talk about the trade, his time in Montreal, and his career so far.
Below, watch the full one hour interview and you can read Engels' column here from two days ago.
Former Montreal Canadiens defenceman P.K. Subban sits down with Eric Engels to talk about the trade that sent him to the Nashville Predators.
added 7:38am, YouTube version is below...
While the city of Montreal is still buzzing from the aftershock of the P.K. Subban trade, Canadiens owner and president Geoff Molson is confident that the move will make the team better next season.
"P.K. was certainly a great player for our team," Molson explained to RDS at the team's AHL announcement in Laval on Monday. "But I think (GM) Marc (Bergevin) has done a very good job this summer to improve our team for next season with the arrival of new players."
Bergevin and the Canadiens made arguably the team's biggest trade in more than two decades, sending the Norris Trophy-winning defenceman and fan favourite to the Nashville Predators for star blueliner Shea Weber on June 29.
"Of course for Marc, this is a very difficult decision, but I support it 100 per cent," said Molson.
from Dave Stubbs of NHL.com,
NHL.com: Here we are on a hot summer afternoon, eight days after the start of nuclear winter in this city. You knew when you traded P.K. Subban for Shea Weber that you weren't dealing a garden-variety third-line wing. Has the dust settled for you, even a little?
Bergevin: There was a lot of thought going into this [trade] prior to that day, a lot of discussion internally. I had talked to my hockey people. At the end of the day, I make the decision. It's on my shoulders, and I get that. But once I make that decision, I don't look back anymore. It's like the old expression, "If you're looking in the rearview mirror, you don't see what's ahead of you." There was a well-thought process of how and why. As a group we talked, and then I made the final decision, and after that, I move on. If you're asking me "since that day…" well, I have moved on, yes.
NHL.com: Did you bring Geoff Molson, the team owner and your boss, in on this trade as it began to take shape in your mind? Or was it finally in the end, you telling him, "Geoff, for your information, this is what I'm doing." Or something in between?
Bergevin: Obviously, circumstances are a little different with P.K. There's one thing with Geoff: He's been good all along -- he leaves it to me to make the hockey decisions. I keep him informed. I tell him, "This is why, and this is the risk." Any transaction you make, there's always a risk. Always. Small transaction or big. And I lay it out to Geoff, and he tells me, "You're here to make hockey decisions, so make this team better. That's your job."
from Jack Todd at the Montreal Gazette,
The odour of mendacity still clings to the seventh floor of the Bell Centre, where Bergevin claimed he had not been shopping Subban’s considerable talent around the league. Sure, you just whip up a deal for two of the league’s premier defencemen in 48 hours because someone happens to call. If you believe that, have I got a swamp for you.
The whole episode reminded me of one of my favourite country song titles: “Get Your Tongue Outa My Mouth Cause I’m Kissin’ You Goodbye.” Good luck, P.K., and we hope you like country music.
Of course no one is saying so for attribution, but Subban is gone because the club had issues with his character, which is subtly different than character issues. Somehow, Subban had made himself unpopular in the room and in the executive offices through what would appear to be an excess of personality.
Subban was too ebullient. He was too happy after losses. He may have stayed out too late at night. He may have joked that Drew Doughty was going to win the Norris because he had a better supporting cast.
That Subban’s behaviour never included the sort of very real character issues you get with the Raising Kane Brothers (Patrick and Evander) didn’t matter. He was cocky and brash and a little too involved in his own world, so he had to go.
Whatever Subban was like in the room or in the clubs after hours, when the puck dropped, no player on this team battled harder. Subban gave this team all he had every night, so if he wanted to bounce around the room and crow after a loss, he has earned the right. If some of his teammates worked half as hard, there would not have been so many losses to mourn in the proper fashion.
from Fluto Shinzawa of the Boston Globe,
Marc Bergevin, the GM Poile ripped off, is 16 years younger than his Nashville counterpart. But by trading Subban for Shea Weber, Bergevin played the old-school part of Mr. Strickland, the no-nonsense principal from “Back to the Future.” There was nothing progressive about the way Bergevin and coconspirator Michel Therrien approached the singular Subban, whom they considered a problem more than a solution.
Without Carey Price, the Canadiens dive-bombed to 13th place in the Eastern Conference last season. Bergevin and Therrien may believe it was because Subban caved in the dressing room with his Mont Royal-sized personality, which undoubtedly did not gain the approval of some of his more conservative teammates.
“Yes, P.K. is different. We’re not going to hide that,” Bergevin told Montreal reporters. “But there was never an issue, never a problem. I fought with my teammates in practice. It happens all the time. I think it was blown out of proportion.”
The truth of the Canadiens is that they were not very good, from their perpetual absence of a go-to center to the mish-mash Bergevin collected for his bottom six forwards to the unimaginative approach the dictatorial Therrien adopted on the bench while his team smoldered on the ice.
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