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Sunday Morning Practice

via Ansar Khan tweets,

At #RedWings practice today, Larkin and Stecher both skating after missing road trip. Bertuzzi still not able to practice.

Also, Rasmussen is back after being assigned to @griffinshockey a couple days ago.

added 11:21am, Khan,

Lines and D pairs at #RedWings practice:
Fabbri-Larkin-Mantha
Ryan-Namestnikov-Zadina
Brome-Rasmussen-Gagner
Helm-Glendening-Erne
Svechnikov, Filppula, Nielsen wearing gray jerseys as extras.
DeKeyser-Hronek
Staal-Merrill
Nemeth-Djoos
Stecher-Biega (extras)
Bernier
Greiss
Pickard

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DETROIT – The Detroit Red Wings today reassigned center Michael Rasmussen to the taxi squad from the American Hockey League’s Grand Rapids Griffins.

Posted by Paul from Motown Area on 03/07/21 at 12:16 PM ET

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Why can’t they keep playing Svech?  The kid has been playing well.  It’s frustrating.

Posted by SevensForTed on 03/07/21 at 12:42 PM ET

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Cause were trying to win SFT.  The coach simultanious has to pick the players hes got on the roster to give him the best chance to win with developing young players into solid NHL players (which apparently turns out is Ben Simons job)

Why is he obsessed with winning every night instead of correcting the things causing them to lose with the young guys?  Seems like picking to play the vets over developing younger guya at the NHL level is just kicking the cab to whatever coach replaces him.

Not really sure what the end game is for the next couple seasons aside from, just lose.  And even then, we could lose with developing guys and see if they get better.  Who the F knows.  Just tune in and be happy as a fan I guess.

Posted by ThatGuy on 03/07/21 at 01:21 PM ET

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Khan tweet,

Blashill said Larkin’s availability for Tuesday to be determined by these two practice days. Bertuzzi, who hasn’t practiced, making progress but no indication of when he might return.

Posted by Paul from Motown Area on 03/07/21 at 01:45 PM ET

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If I was a young player on this team I would want out! Vets can make mistake after mistake with no repercussions at all! If the young ones make a mistake….benched, taxi squad or GR. Play Svech 2nd or 3rd lines for the rest of the year, play Ras more with consistant line mates. Why the hell was Smith sent down? TURN the kids loose for heavens sake. They can learn defense on the fly, you can’t teach how to score goals. Frick, I am sure they would totally RUIN McDavid and Matthews if we had them.

Get some coaches that can get this team going, they play by thinking too much, Show some passion and effort at least. I am getting sick of watching the exact same thing for 4 yrs now.

Posted by Stump23 on 03/07/21 at 01:52 PM ET

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The only reason I can see to have Svetch on the bench is his speed. I would rather have Svetch in the game than Brome but Blash seems to think Brome is due or plays better D or something?  Blash makes my brain bleed.

Posted by Royal Grand Exalted PooBah from the basement of the Alamo on 03/07/21 at 02:29 PM ET

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At minimum Svechnikov could play in Erne’s spot
and offer a better shot and more offensive net-crashing
momentum. The two veteran checkers offer plenty of speed
and defense and can help coach Svechnikov from the ice and bench,
since the actual coach show few apparent signs of trying to.

We keep hearing how the Wings need both more scoring and
particularly from more guys going to the net. Svechnikov has a pretty good
shot, is as big and strong as Erne, and has more offensive sense.

I appreciate that at this point Nielsen and Filppula are sitting in part to
give mins to a developing center who is part of the future In Rasmussen.
But Gagne and Helm and Glendening are plenty of defensively conscientious
veterans in the bottom six. How is Svechnikov going to get faster and more defensively sound without playing and learning to compensate with anticipation and positioning.

Posted by lefty.30 on 03/07/21 at 03:24 PM ET

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I know it’s not everything but Svechnikov is 2+2 for 4 pts in four games
and has scored and gotten chances a few different ways.

Erne is ok to have on the roster as a big body who forechecks and hits.
But what is the upside? Are the Wings trying to ice a 4th line that won’t score?
Don’t you want a safe energy line that can chip in?

Posted by lefty.30 on 03/07/21 at 03:28 PM ET

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Seems like picking to play the vets over developing younger guya at the NHL level is just kicking the cab to whatever coach replaces him.
Posted by ThatGuy on 03/07/21 at 12:21 PM ET

And we’re circling back to the old narrative, those dastardly vets and the coach who loves to love them, and the kids they hold down… Except that the coach didn’t sign all these guys, the coach doesn’t control who is up from GR and who is taxi’ed and Flippula and Neilson are sitting. So who is in charge, why do we ignore him all the time in our complaints, and what “vets”

Is it Yzerman’s draft choice, who he traded for and re-signed in Adam Erne? That’d be my choice, though not sure I’d say he’s a vet, cause a few scratches and a sniff would tell you that Adam Erne is only 6 months older than Svechnikov. 

Maybe its the other Yzerman trade and resigned player in Sam Gagner.  Love to agree with that myself, but I haven’t seen Gagner make a lot of mistakes lately to deserve to be benched, actually he’s been producing, has looked pretty good with Zadina, and by all accounts is turning into a good leader/mentor of sorts. More importantly he’s always been streaky, and if he hits a streak he might make a nice toss in on a trade to net a higher return.

Are the Wings trying to ice a 4th line that won’t score? Don’t you want a safe energy line that can chip
in? Posted by lefty.30 on 03/07/21 at 02:28 PM ET

There’s a lot that is wrong with this team, our 4th line is not it IMO, they apply pressure, they defend, they do chip in. I’d like to feel differently, I really would, but I would have a hard time breaking them up, it would change the way they would be used. I still would figure out a way to start Svechnikov.

 

Posted by MurrayChadwick from YzerHolland2.0's pixie dust fueled bandwagon on 03/07/21 at 05:59 PM ET

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Yeah, it does seem like it’s really Svetch vs. Brome, and I do think #86 deserves his games in the lineup as well.

Sitting #81 and #51 sits well with me.

Posted by The Meal from Firestone, CO on 03/07/21 at 08:56 PM ET

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Hopefully Yzerman makes some trades in the next couple weeks to free up roster space and get some more picks.

Posted by Shanny_Fan on 03/08/21 at 12:48 AM ET

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Bultman had a good piece at the Athletic (catching up via
30 day trial) on tiers of tradable players and it seemed to come across
like an unwelcome splash of cold water to a lot of fans.

How quickly we forget Yzerman was lucky to salvage Green for a 4th
and got two #2s for AA (which now looks like a coup - and I’m still a fan of
Athanasiou. It took Ken Holland in a different front office to get us those assets back.

This can’t be a good time to trade low on our better players.
Aaron Portzline just had a story considering how CBJ might find a center to
replace Dubois. And suggested Werenski as a starting point for Larkin. Yeah,
better include a young center possibility like Texier, too. Does he know how thin we are at center with Larkin?

Anyway, Bultman seemed to think Glendening, Ryan, and Bernier were the most marketable guys with the caveat that goalies seldom return as much as one hopes.
And Bernier is a UFA rental well over thirty.

Being optimistic, the best I could come up with was short lists of players who might fetch either a 3rd and ones who might fetch a 5th if there is any interest at all. Or I could see the bet hedging of trading a rental for a 3rd but having to include a 5th or 6th. Getting a 5th but including a 7th. I don’t see who gets us higher than a 3rd unless we trade a young player with term.

Posted by lefty.30 on 03/08/21 at 09:20 AM ET

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Posted by lefty.30 on 03/08/21 at 08:20 AM ET

Agreed, and I’m not going to complain about what he gets for any of them, as long as they are moved to let our kids play, even if its for low probability AHL guys like McIlrath, or long shot goalies.

The only two players I’d hold out for a good return is Bernier, because of how important he is to the team in keeping us in games when we hopefully turn to full blown youth after the deadline, and the other is Glendenning, he shouldn’t just give him away.

I think there’s a way to package up 2-3 players if we retain true salary and cap to give that team depth on all three units for a good return, think in terms of Glenny + Merrill, or Ryan + Helm + Nemeth or Bernier, etc. etc.

Posted by MurrayChadwick from YzerHolland2.0's pixie dust fueled bandwagon on 03/08/21 at 10:49 AM ET

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Let’s not forget the most valuable asset the Wings have, salary cap space. Ideally they can use some of it to assist a 3rd party in getting a deal done.

Bernier’s value will be determined by supply and demand. I could see demand getting pretty decent when Cup aspiring teams start worrying about COVID or an injury happening to a starter.

Posted by evileye on 03/08/21 at 01:28 PM ET

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