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Steve Yzerman On A Few Topics Including Having Niklas Kronwall Back

 

 

 

added 5:24pm, via the Detroit Free Press,

Detroit Red Wings general manager Steve Yzerman discussed his readiness for the NHL draft and more. Filmed June 13, 2019 in Detroit.

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I wouldn’t mind seeing Kronwall back for 1 more year, as long as it means that both Daley and Ericsson are healthy scratches on a regular basis. Obviously that is a ridiculous amount of money/cap hit to sit in the press box, but maybe for 1 season it could be do-able.

Green, Kronwall, and Dekeyser along with Hronek, Cholo, and Bowey would make a nice mix of vets and young guys on the blue line.

Posted by Charles1986 on 06/13/19 at 05:29 PM ET

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If Witkowski gets re-signed, Yzerman has already failed.

There is zero reason for him to be taking a roster spot.

Posted by Primis on 06/13/19 at 05:42 PM ET

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from Helene St. James of the Detroit Free Press,

A week out from the 2019 NHL entry draft, Steve Yzerman spoke with excitement of handling his first major task since taking over as general manager of the Detroit Red Wings.

The Wings hold 10 picks in the June 21-22 event, five of them within the first 66 selections. They’ll get a top-rated prospect with their first pick, at sixth overall, but the three second-round picks could yield a crop that’d help boost the rebuild.

“Ideally we hit on all of these prospects and have players that turn out for us, but there’s no guarantee of that,” Yzerman said Thursday afternoon at Little Caesars Arena. “It’s more difficult than it seems. But it sure speeds things up, the more players you can get out of each draft.”

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Posted by Paul from Motown Area on 06/13/19 at 06:34 PM ET

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from Ted Kulfan of the Detroit News,

On the level Yzerman expects the Wings to be active in unrestricted free agency beginning July 1: “We have spots on the roster available. I would look toward free agency to fill those roster spots (before trade), but we also do want to have some opportunity for some of our younger players to fill those spots. We will look at free agency, but I’m not going to sign a free agent to just sign a free agent. The player has to fit what we’re trying to do, the value of the contract has to fit. I can’t tell you how active we’ll be, but we’ll certainly reach out to players and agents of guys we think can fit into what we’re trying to do.”

On whether the Wings, or other teams, would sign a restricted free agent among a talented pool of such players this summer: “I don’t know what other teams are thinking. There’s a lot of talk within the media. But the position we’re in today, I don’t say definitely I wouldn’t consider it, but it’s unlikely.”

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Posted by Paul from Motown Area on 06/13/19 at 06:37 PM ET

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If Witkowski gets re-signed, Yzerman has already failed.

There is zero reason for him to be taking a roster spot.

Posted by Primis on 06/13/19 at 05:42 PM ET

Would rather have him sit in the box than one of the younger guys, saying that I would prefer Big E to be there and Wit to be in GR.

Posted by tkfergy on 06/13/19 at 06:58 PM ET

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Ken Holland, is that you?

Posted by TreKronor on 06/13/19 at 06:59 PM ET

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saying that I would prefer Big E to be there and Wit to be in GR.

I’d rather we bury Errorson in GR, honestly. A stopped clock has the capability of being right twice a day, but it’s only right twice a day.

Posted by Alan from Atlanta on 06/13/19 at 07:55 PM ET

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My own take, I have the same reasoning with signing Kronwell, Datsyuk, and Z, it’s time to move on. To constantly keep older players on, especially with injuries is foolish. The way the salary cap saddles a team with career ending injuries is foolishness. Still sour about Franzen’s salary, talk about handicapping a team.

Posted by stateofmifan on 06/13/19 at 08:03 PM ET

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Larkin has a bit of hot headedness in him and that will be explored by teams next year. The team needs someone to have the skill players back. I would rather they keep McIllrath as he clears the front of the net. And he pretty much plays as well as some of the pylons on D.

Posted by Royal Grand Exalted PooBah from the basement of the Alamo on 06/13/19 at 08:15 PM ET

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The way the salary cap saddles a team with career ending injuries is foolishness. Still sour about Franzen’s salary, talk about handicapping a team.

I do not think career-ending injuries handicap the team in any way.

Posted by w2j2 on 06/13/19 at 08:21 PM ET

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I really like listening to Yzerman.  I liked Holland, but I think Yzerman communicates better.

Posted by w2j2 on 06/13/19 at 08:22 PM ET

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Having watched the playoffs & comparing the Wings to the Blues, the Wings desperately need some top line defensemen….No kidding…...:((

Posted by w2j2 on 06/13/19 at 08:25 PM ET

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Looking at the Blues and other teams the smaller players faded in the playoffs. Size does help. Would rather they pass on Caufield unless he really is that much better but I don’t think he is at 6th.

Posted by Royal Grand Exalted PooBah from the basement of the Alamo on 06/13/19 at 08:55 PM ET

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I also don’t expect Yzerman to go back on the promise Holland made to Kronwall. Why start out with bad feelings?  Going back on that would probably be a dick move.

Posted by Royal Grand Exalted PooBah from the basement of the Alamo on 06/13/19 at 08:58 PM ET

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You mean the guy who signed Wikowski 3x in Tampa potentially wants to sign him again?

Impossible.

This is Steve Yzerman. Not Ken Holland!!!1!11!!!1!1

Posted by ilovehomers on 06/13/19 at 09:03 PM ET

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If Witkowski gets re-signed, Yzerman has already failed.

There is zero reason for him to be taking a roster spot.

Posted by Primis on 06/13/19 at 05:42 PM ET


He’s cheap and plays 4th line/7th dman. He’s not taking any decent prospect’s spot. This organization has a plethora of 4th line nobodies.

Plus he only played 34 games last year.

Now if it were Vanek in contract negotiations…

Posted by SauceBoss on 06/13/19 at 09:43 PM ET

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I have no problems with Witter…..


Lets Go Red Wings!!!!!

Posted by Kate from PA now in SC-made in Detroit on 06/13/19 at 09:44 PM ET

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Wings need someone to make the dirtier teams in the league think twice
and also absorb fighting when it comes to that - rather than a guy like Mantha
breaking another finger.

Witkowski is grateful to be in the bigs playing in his home state.
He knows his role.

That said, McIlrath didn’t do too badly when he finally got a chance
at the end of the season. I wouldn’t mind seeing whether he could play a net-clearing, stay at home, occasional PK role on the bottom pairing.

It’s possible Cholowski needs more time getting used to the pro grind and physically maturing in GR. The question is, will be truly develop down there or will it affect his confidence/morale to be demoted?

It’s hard to believe Ericsson and Daley are going to ever get/stay healthy consistently at this point, which is the only reason - along with Cholo benefiting from another season in GR(?) why there might be room for Kronner one last time.
The D is going to be very different in ‘20-21. I’m agnostic as to whether that means guys like Cholo and Kaski should be getting as much time as possible this season in Detroit.

Posted by lefty.30 on 06/13/19 at 10:44 PM ET

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This organization has a plethora of 4th line nobodies.

Yeah, that’s why signing Witkowski is dumb.

Posted by CharDeeMacDennis on 06/13/19 at 10:57 PM ET

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I had forgot about the new guy Kaski. Maybe we don’t have room.

Posted by Royal Grand Exalted PooBah from the basement of the Alamo on 06/13/19 at 11:15 PM ET

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Forgot about Green’s health, too!

You hope for their own sake these guys are all well.

But that’s three veteran defensemen who just haven’t been
able to stay healthy.

Ironic Kronner is the one who has been better in that regard.

It’s also for the same reason a little hard to imagine we’re going to be able to
trade these veterans even at the deadline for late picks.

Look at the Bruins and Blues D - other than Chara and perhaps Boumeester who are both long-standing top-four contributors, no one else was really that end of career type. The league has changed. Both those teams and all really who made t far had excellent depth. It doesn’t seem like 10-15-20 years ago when GMs would spend picks on grizzled depth guys. It’s about big, mobile guys who are home grown and mostly in their prime.

Posted by lefty.30 on 06/13/19 at 11:30 PM ET

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This organization has a plethora of 4th line nobodies.

Yeah, that’s why signing Witkowski is dumb.

Posted by CharDeeMacDennis on 06/13/19 at 10:57 PM ET

What’s dumb is guys like Larkin and Mantha having to drop gloves and getting injured.
We need a guy like Witkowski, whether it’s Witkowski or Witkowski-like guy, but someone like that is needed on this team. He won’t play every game, but he needs to be on the ice against certain teams.

Posted by George0211 on 06/14/19 at 08:38 AM ET

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What’s dumb is guys like Larkin and Mantha having to drop gloves and getting injured.
We need a guy like Witkowski, whether it’s Witkowski or Witkowski-like guy, but someone like that is needed on this team. He won’t play every game, but he needs to be on the ice against certain teams.

Posted by George0211 on 06/14/19 at 08:38 AM ET
I concur.

Posted by damndog revenge From the bowels of Detroit on 06/14/19 at 10:10 AM ET

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This organization has a plethora of 4th line nobodies.

Yeah, that’s why signing Witkowski is dumb.

Posted by CharDeeMacDennis on 06/13/19 at 10:57 PM ET


Most of which can barely produce in ahl/echl and none of which bring Witkowski’s edge/physical element

He won’t play every game, but he needs to be on the ice against certain teams.

Posted by George0211 on 06/14/19 at 08:38 AM ET

Having him around to play 20-40 games doesn’t bother me at all. Until one of Kenny’s draft picks develops into something similar (G. Smith is probably the closest) we need him.


The Abby, Nielsen and Helm contracts are the ones blocking players like Ras, Svech, Zadina, Veleno eventually, and this years top pick from getting 3rd/2nd line ice time needed to develop properly

Posted by SauceBoss on 06/14/19 at 10:21 AM ET

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Keep Wittier because he’s a good scratch. Keep Whittier because he should be the enforcer.  How’s he supposed to enforce if he’s in the press box all the time?

Posted by howeandhowe from Seattle on 06/14/19 at 12:36 PM ET

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  Posted by w2j2 on 06/13/19 at 08:21 PM                      
Kinda got me confused, but first figure is salary and second is salary cap hit. Not familiar with cap rules but it appears to me injured players count.
                  Two Way Deal
Dylan Larkin C $6,100,000 $6,100,000 8.80
Henrik Zetterberg LW $6,083,333 $6,083,333 8.78
Mike Green D $5,375,000 $5,375,000 7.75
Frans Nielsen C $5,250,000 $5,250,000 7.57
Danny DeKeyser D $5,000,000 $5,000,000 7.21
Justin Abdelkader LW $4,250,000 $4,250,000 6.13
Jonathan Ericsson D $4,250,000 $4,250,000 6.13
Jimmy Howard G $4,000,000 $4,000,000 5.77
Johan Franzen LW $3,954,545 $3,954,545 5.70
Darren Helm C $3,850,000 $3,850,000 5.55
Anthony Mantha RW $3,300,000 $3,300,000 4.76
Trevor Daley D $3,166,667 $3,166,667 4.57
Jonathan Bernier G $3,000,000 $3,000,000 4.33
Andreas Athanasiou C $3,000,000 $3,000,000 4.33
Luke Glendening C $1,800,000 $1,800,000 2.60
Tyler Bertuzzi LW $1,400,000 $1,400,000 2.02
Madison Bowey D $1,000,000 $1,000,000 1.44
Jacob De La Rose LW $900,000 $900,000 1.30
Michael Rasmussen C $894,166 $894,166 1.29
Evgeny Svechnikov LW $863,333 $863,333 1.25
2019 Buyout Cap
Stephen Weiss RW $1,666,667 $1,666,667 2.40
Xavier Ouellet D $216,667 $216,667 0.31
2019-2020 Cap Totals
Salary cap totals including salaries, buyout figures, and projected floor & cap space.
CAP TYPE TOTAL
2019-2020 NHL Salary Cap Max $83,000,000
2019-2020 NHL Salary Cap Floor $0
Active Contracts $67,437,044
Buyout Money $1,883,334
Total Allocated Cap $69,320,378
Cap Space $13,679,622

2019-2020 Non-Roster Players
Salaries from players currently in the system.  denotes a buried salary that counts against the payroll.
Taro Hirose LW $925,000 $925,000
Oliwer Kaski D $925,000 $925,000
Ryan Kuffner LW $925,000 $925,000
David Pope LW $925,000 $925,000
Joe Veleno C $925,000 $925,000
Filip Zadina RW $925,000 $925,000
Dennis Cholowski D $894,166 $894,166
Chase Pearson C $858,750 $858,750
Filip Larsson G $836,666 $836,666
Jared McIsaac D $792,500 $792,500
Gustav Lindstrom D $775,833 $775,833
Christoffer Ehn C $759,167 $759,167
Kaden Fulcher G $716,666 $716,666
Filip Hronek D $714,166 $714,166
Givani Smith RW $714,166 $714,166
Brian Lashoff D $700,000 $700,000
Dylan McIlrath D $700,000 $700,000
Turner Elson LW $700,000 $700,000
Vili Saarijarvi D $697,500 $697,500
Matt Puempel LW $675,000 $675,000
Chris Terry RW $675,000 $675,000

Posted by stateofmifan on 06/14/19 at 12:54 PM ET

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LTIR players count against the off season cap (which is 10% higher at the same time). When the season starts LTIR goes off the books (Franzen and Hank). I believe there is a limit to how much salary or the. Umber if players who’s salary can be taken off the cap during the season.

If you got your information from CapFriendly then they should have a good explainatipn of how the salary cap works.

Posted by howeandhowe from Seattle on 06/14/19 at 01:10 PM ET

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Posted by howeandhowe from Seattle on 06/14/19 at 01:10 PM ET
Thank you

Posted by stateofmifan on 06/14/19 at 01:31 PM ET

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Talking Yzerman failure already over who keeps our pressbox bench warm? My word does this fanbase get constipated over our 14th forward/8th dman.  Wit is the perfect #14, Yzerman knows it, that’s why he wants him back.

Posted by MurrayChadwick from YzerGod's pixie dust fueled bandwagon on 06/16/19 at 10:43 AM ET

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Wit is the perfect #14, Yzerman knows it, that’s why he wants him back.

Posted by MurrayChadwick from YzerGod’s pixie dust fueled bandwagon on 06/16/19 at 10:43 AM ET

Maybe for a Holland Team but we really don’t know how Yzerman views the current Wings Team (NHL, AHL, prospects, choice of picks (2019)).  Maybe it is just me but I really hope there is a difference in thinking.  This year Yzerman gets a pass, next year or the year after we will see how Stevie Y performs. He really has to keep KH promises in mind.

Not excited about Wit eating hot dogs most of the season but Capitals with Wilson and now Gudas, could be tough.

Posted by WingedRider from Saskatoon, SK on 06/16/19 at 03:48 PM ET

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Maybe it is just me but I really hope there is a difference in thinking. 
Not excited about Wit eating hot dogs most of the season
Posted by WingedRider from Saskatoon, SK on 06/16/19 at 03:48 PM ET

What’s the alternative? What you’d rather have a prospect that might have a future with the team sitting in our pressbox? Some other vet that bounces around the league?

Wit is liked by his teammates, or so it appears, he can play Forward or Defense, he can be inserted when we need some toughness, when he does play his 6-8 minutes, he adds energy and physicality which a coach can use if a team is play lackluster and he needs to change it up,  and he has no upside so having him sit is not a determinant to long term development.  Yzerman signed him in Tampa.

 

Posted by MurrayChadwick from YzerGod's pixie dust fueled bandwagon on 06/17/19 at 10:40 AM ET

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Posted by MurrayChadwick from YzerGod’s pixie dust fueled bandwagon on 06/17/19 at 10:40 AM ET

I get what you are saying. What are other teams using for their Hot Dog eater?

I see Kronwall sitting a few games (back to back games), call up a player like McIlrath from GR when he is needed. Not sure what the lineup will be but there are other players every year who need to sit having a minor nagging injury or rest. There are others I would sit from time to time, wake up call (Now that is just me). A prospect could use a game or two (not more) to see the NHL play and get in a practise or two.

Wit is not a big deal overall (unless he gets over paid)

Posted by WingedRider from Saskatoon, SK on 06/17/19 at 01:40 PM ET

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