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Starting Early: Live Blogging The Game That Should Have Been And Listening To The Emperor

Interesting sidenote to the Game 7 ditty that many of you have stricken from your alcohol-riddled memories: the Wings were the better team. The Wings are always the better team.  But by the time G7, R2 rolled around last year…Detroit was rolling.  Here’s what we said when we kicked off the last Live Blog of last season...

And here’s something else:  Wings win tonite and they become the favorites. I mean, THE favorites.  The favorites to beat Vancouver, the favorites to win the whole damn thing.  San Jose wins and nobody with a brain cell picks them to go any further than five or six games against the Canucks.

You can’t argue with that. You just can’t.  Nothing was exaggerated and nothing was wrong.  Had the Wings won that, Vancouver would have been history.  And Boston’s not built to deal with the depth of Detroit.  Nobody is, really.  Except for Columbus…and Washington.

It’s so early. Golly, it’s early.  But you have to figure that the Wings feel a little dirty after getting their asses handed to them by the worst team in the league, just after a spanking in DC.  You have to think that if any night is ripe for a reckoning, it’s tonite. 

So, Live Blog this bitch. Go on now. Live blog it.  Before you do, because you dig your Live Blogs and whatever else falls on this site from time to time when I get the energy to write, click here and do what the Emperor tells you to do.

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Mandingo's avatar

This Red Wings team, as it stands now, cannot win the West.

Posted by Mandingo from The Garage on 10/29/11 at 12:01 AM ET

bezukov's avatar

Franzen just stood there as Dats ran circles for like 15 seconds.  Bench him.

Posted by ChowYunCat on 10/28/11 at 09:59 PM ET

I’m sure Brunnstrom would love a crack at his job.

Posted by bezukov from the kids are alright. on 10/29/11 at 12:01 AM ET

stonehands-78's avatar


Posted by stonehands-78 from the beginning ... a WingsFan, on 10/29/11 at 12:01 AM ET

TheRealYooper's avatar

three count them three losses in a row.

just heard over the radio, some fan shouts, “detroit sucks!” “their players eat shit”

must not be on a time delay eh? loud and clear almost like he was talking right into the mic.

Posted by TheRealYooper from within sight of the edge of the Earth. on 10/29/11 at 12:01 AM ET

Wingfan191's avatar

Seriously, keep Homer in tomorrow and scratch Franzen/Hudler or Cleary.  Brunnstrom and Emmerton would love a shot a some top line minutes.

Posted by Wingfan191 from Bothell, WA (originally from Troy, MI) on 10/29/11 at 12:02 AM ET

Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit's avatar

Gawd, I am sooooooooooo pissed. We need to change something. Yesterday.

Lets Go Red Wings!!!!!

Posted by Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit on 10/29/11 at 12:03 AM ET

MsRedWinger's avatar

Don’t know what to say.  So I won’t say anything.

Posted by MsRedWinger from the State where Tigers roam in the Spring on 10/29/11 at 12:05 AM ET

Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit's avatar

See ya’ll tomorrow. Bitches.

Lets Go Red Wings!!!!!

Posted by Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit on 10/29/11 at 12:06 AM ET

calquake's avatar

Goodnite all.

Posted by calquake from a.k.a. Uniquake, workin' on my manifesto on 10/29/11 at 12:07 AM ET

WestWing's avatar

This Red Wings team, as it stands now, cannot win the West.

We seem to be quite in agreement on this point.  Eventually this has to be a wake-up call not just for the players and coaches but for the whole organisation from KH on down. 

If being a one-and-done playoff team is their goal then fine.  Just stand pat and get ready to give Nick his gold watch as he rides into the sunset at the end of the season. 

The reality is that whatever gap exists between these two teams is as simple as this:  The Sharks bury their chances.  They have more offensive talent.  The Wings make a mistake against them, they pay for it.  Detroit gets ten good scoring chances and maybe, maybe they get one of those to go in.

I can’t fault the effort tonight, but the continued breakdowns, the lack of sound defensive play would seem to indicate that there’s very a real chemistry problem on this team. 

In order to close the gap that exists between these two teams, Detroit needs an infusion of some kind—a legit goal-scorer to play on their top line for sure and honestly, some fiery leadership inside the locker room.  I think they sorely lack both of those things right now.

Posted by WestWing from Portland, Oregon on 10/29/11 at 12:22 AM ET

Primis's avatar

With a 3-game slide this bad you stop just pointing the fingers at the coaches.

Bert and Cleary have been horrible among others.  But God, at this point Babcock and his merry men are getting the finger-pointing too.  Because how you let even 1 or 2 players come out after those previous 2 games, and play that stress-free and lackadaisical… I don’t know how you can allow that and look yourself in the mirror.

Scratch Bert (who quite frankly plays like he has no hockey left in him) and scratch Cleary for sure.  1 or 2 games might kickstart Cleary.  Get some hungry guys in there though.  Not enough of them want it.  I don’t know that they’ll win another game this season otherwise…

Seriously, keep Homer in tomorrow and scratch Franzen/Hudler or Cleary.  Brunnstrom and Emmerton would love a shot a some top line minutes.

Posted by Wingfan191 from Bothell, WA (originally from Troy, MI) on 10/28/11 at 10:02 PM ET

I rode Huds all last year, but WTF has he done to deserve it?  He’s getting MAULED by guys every single game and the refs are just looking the other way.  Otherwise he’s skating fine and making plays.  He occasionally makes an error, but he’s at least trying, whereas some others aren’t trying and are still making errors.  He made that beautiful set-up for Franzen in the 3rd that Franzen absolutely botched with a fairly empty net.

Posted by Primis on 10/29/11 at 12:22 AM ET

Red Winger's avatar

Okay, I haven’t read a post yet, just returned from the tavern ...but, oh my, there’s just that SOMETHING missing from our team this year.

Maybe it’s me ...maybe it’s the two tequilas ...but, if not ...

Posted by Red Winger from Sault Ste Marie, MI on 10/29/11 at 12:29 AM ET

Bent's avatar

Just finished watching the game.  I saw the wings lose a 3-3 tie game, but for some reason the NHL says the score was 4-2.

Posted by Bent from The U.P. on 10/29/11 at 02:34 AM ET

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Posted by Bent from The U.P. on 10/29/11 at 12:34 AM ET

That’s the thing. I totally agree with everyone’s assessment of the deficiencies of the team and specific players etc. so far, but to say the Sharks are a bigger and better version of us and that we are a 4th seed is a little harsh. The bottom line tonight is that we scored 3 goals and they scored 3 goals. The disallowed goal wasn’t even debatable, we scored. Tie game going into OT, and even though we made some mistakes tonight, we also played well enough to be tied with them. I dunno.

Posted by stayouttamalibu from California on 10/29/11 at 03:56 AM ET


I love the respect and professionalism as mention before, however I agree the Wings need a fire lite under the ass when these loses occur. Brake a stick, scream at a ref, damn it fight someone! They need passion! Lets take there early exits from the playoffs out and forget the wins and loses in the playoffs for a second….. Howmany times did that series end, w or L and leave you saying the Wings were a better team… Cause 80% of the time they are. It’s weird to ever say the wings under achieved, but if you look back for the past 23 years, this franchise should of won at least 8 cups. They are considerably the better team, I just want to see a little more passion

Posted by Toomyn from Detroit on 10/29/11 at 04:05 AM ET

w2j2's avatar

They miss Draper in the locker room.

Posted by w2j2 on 10/29/11 at 09:46 AM ET

SnLO's avatar

They need passion

I haven’t been able to see the much of the Wings play this season, but over the course of the last couple of years, I agree this is an element that has been missing on this team.

Posted by SnLO from the binary digisphere on 10/29/11 at 10:52 AM ET

stonehands-78's avatar

They need passion.

Make the most of today ... you know not what tomorrow may be.


Posted by stonehands-78 from the beginning ... a WingsFan, on 10/29/11 at 01:04 PM ET

MsRedWinger's avatar

Funny how the “old” guys - Nick and Homer - seem to have the passion.  They both contributed mightily offensively last night.  Maybe it’s ‘cuz they know it’s their last season and they want to go out winners.  M-O-T-I-V-A-T-I-O-N.

And yes, it was a tie game.  And yet…  I hate Joe Thornton but you can see the determination all over him.  There are a lot of teams out there who desperately want some of the success the Wings have had.  And it shows.  They are skating harder, fighting harder for pucks, not worrying about being hit, reading plays smarter - in short, just wanting it more.  Babcock was absolutely right yesterday when he said it’s about whether the Wings are willing - not able - willing to play at that level.

I don’t know how you blame the coaches for lack of will.  You can only sit so many players.

I would at least demote a few players down to lower lines.  How about:

Z-Pav-Homer (Homer has earned the right - he works his butt off around the net)


Eaves-Helm-Cleary (or Bruno)

Miller-Emmerton-Bert or (Bruno)


Happy.  (Sorry - he disappeared after about the third game.)
Bruno (or Cleary or Bert)

Posted by MsRedWinger from the State where Tigers roam in the Spring on 10/29/11 at 01:56 PM ET

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