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Questions For Ansar Khan

from Ansar Khan of Mlive,

Q: What are the Wings going to do about a backup goalie next season? I’m not sold on Jared Coreau. Think they’ll look to free agency or swing a trade?

A: They likely will be seeking a backup goalie through free agency, on a one- or two-year deal. Carter Hutton of St. Louis might be the best option. He’s 16-7-3, with a 2.02 goals-against average, .934 save percentage and three shutouts.

Others slated to become unrestricted on July 1 include Antti Raanta (Arizona), Anton Khudobin (Boston), Kari Lehtonen (Dallas), Jonathan Bernier (Colorado), Michael Hutchison, and in all likelihood, Petr Mrazek (Philadelphia). Coreau, who will be unrestricted, too, hasn’t shown he can be a reliable NHL backup. The sample size is small this season (5.16 GAA, .865 save percentage in two appearances) but his numbers weren’t good in 14 games in 2016-17 (3.46 GAA, .887 save percentage).

Q: Was the Red Wings’ reluctance to trade Mike Green an indication that he’s coming back or that maybe they have an agreement in place?

A: There’s a decent chance he returns, on a two- or three-year deal, at maybe a little less than the $6 million he’s currently earning. They've already told Green they're interested in re-signing him. But that’s not why he wasn’t traded. He has a herniated disc that might require surgery and the three teams that were most interested in him (Tampa Bay, Washington and San Jose) apparently weren’t willing to risk giving up much for him.

more Q & A including the plans for Rasmussen and Dennis Cholowski next season...

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——He has a herniated disc that might require surgery
——OK then, let’s sign him for 3 more years.

Posted by VPalmer on 03/12/18 at 08:57 AM ET

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Posted by VPalmer on 03/12/18 at 08:57 AM ET

How else are they supposed to rebuild?

Posted by CharDeeMacDennis on 03/12/18 at 08:59 AM ET

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They likely will be seeking a backup goalie through free agency, on a one- or two-year deal. Carter Hutton of St. Louis might be the best option. He’s 16-7-3, with a 2.02 goals-against average, .934 save percentage and three shutouts.

With that record, Hutton is going to be too expensive for the Wings. Besides, if he continued to play at anywhere near that pace, he wouldn’t be the backup – he’d be the starter.

They said last week the plan is to keep Svechnikov until the end of the season to get a good look at him…

Right. That’s why he got less than six minutes in the last game. Apparently Blashill is such an astute evaluator of talent that that was all he needed to “get a good look at him.”

Q: Was the Red Wings’ reluctance to trade Mike Green an indication that he’s coming back or that maybe they have an agreement in place?

A: There’s a decent chance he returns, on a two- or three-year deal, at maybe a little less than the $6 million he’s currently earning.

If Green comes back, it better be for a lot less than the $6M he’s getting now. If he really likes it in Detroit, as he says he does, he’ll take $4M, or hopefully less. Otherwise let the young defensemen play and take your chances on a top-5 draft pick next year.

Posted by OlderThanChelios from Grand Rapids, MI on 03/12/18 at 10:35 AM ET

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There’s a decent chance he returns, on a two- or three-year deal, at maybe a little less than the $6 million he’s currently earning. They’ve already told Green they’re interested in re-signing him. But that’s not why he wasn’t traded. He has a herniated disc that might require surgery


Great, that sounds like an outstanding plan. Hit camp next year with the exact same bottom of the league blue line they have this year, but now another year older.

FIRE HOLLAND NOW

Posted by MZ2215 on 03/12/18 at 10:39 AM ET

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Great, that sounds like an outstanding plan. Hit camp next year with the exact same bottom of the league blue line they have this year, but now another year older.

FIRE HOLLAND NOW

Posted by MZ2215 on 03/12/18 at 10:39 AM ET

So how do you propose Holland make the blue line better than bottom of the league? Who do you realistically trade for or sign in free agency?

And if you go full tank rebuild that so many people on here scream for, isn’t having a bad blue line a good thing?

 

Posted by Snowy Shaw on 03/12/18 at 11:38 AM ET

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So how do you propose Holland make the blue line better than bottom of the league? Who do you realistically trade for or sign in free agency?

Play.
The.
Kids.

And if you go full tank rebuild that so many people on here scream for, isn’t having a bad blue line a good thing?

No, because signing veterans is antithetical to rebuilding.

Posted by CharDeeMacDennis on 03/12/18 at 11:48 AM ET

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So playing a bunch of mid-level prospects is supposed to make the blueline better? If anything, it’ll become worse with a bunch of AHLers playing.

Posted by Snowy Shaw on 03/12/18 at 11:53 AM ET

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So how do you propose Holland make the blue line better than bottom of the league? Who do you realistically trade for or sign in free agency?

You’re either being thick or too far behind to be brought up to speed in any reasonable amount of time.

And if you go full tank rebuild that so many people on here scream for, isn’t having a bad blue line a good thing?

Posted by Snowy Shaw on 03/12/18 at 11:38 AM ET

Having aging veterans on contracts that can’t be moved does absolutely nothing to develop the kids that will become the future when this team could be decent.


They shouldn’t sign anyone on the blue line, let the kids play and see what you’ve got before you try putting a band-aid over the gunshot wound.

Posted by MZ2215 on 03/12/18 at 11:56 AM ET

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So playing a bunch of mid-level prospects is supposed to make the blueline better?

Has anyone ever explained to you what a rebuild is?

Posted by CharDeeMacDennis on 03/12/18 at 12:00 PM ET

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So playing a bunch of mid-level prospects is supposed to make the blueline better?

Has anyone ever explained to you what a rebuild is?

Posted by CharDeeMacDennis on 03/12/18 at 12:00 PM ET

I can’t tell if he’s trolling or just not very smart, seems too random to be genuine ignorance.

Posted by MZ2215 on 03/12/18 at 12:06 PM ET

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You’re either being thick or too far behind to be brought up to speed in any reasonable amount of time.

Having aging veterans on contracts that can’t be moved does absolutely nothing to develop the kids that will become the future when this team could be decent.

They shouldn’t sign anyone on the blue line, let the kids play and see what you’ve got before you try putting a band-aid over the gunshot wound.

Immediately with the personal insults after someone questions your hate hard on for Holland? Don’t get pissy with me because you’re mad at the GM of a sports team.

The only 3 decent defensive prospects in the system aren’t ready yet. One’s still in major junior, and the other two haven’t even completed a full pro season yet. Would you gift them a spot on the team and have them get crushed every night?

This “JUZZ PLAY DA KIDDZZZZ AND EVERYTHING WILL BE BETTER” mentality is the reason why people who play the NHL video games shouldn’t be acting as armchair GMs in real life.

 

Posted by Snowy Shaw on 03/12/18 at 12:06 PM ET

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Agree to disagree without the personal stuff please.  Thanks.

Posted by Paul from Motown Area on 03/12/18 at 12:07 PM ET

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Has anyone ever explained to you what a rebuild is?

Posted by CharDeeMacDennis on 03/12/18 at 12:00 PM ET

You mean like those great rebuilds in Edmonton and Buffalo? How are those working out?

Posted by Snowy Shaw on 03/12/18 at 12:08 PM ET

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So how do you propose Holland make the blue line better than bottom of the league?

First priority, do not sign a 32 years old with a herniated disc problem whose injury got scared all prospective buyers.

Posted by VPalmer on 03/12/18 at 12:21 PM ET

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I love how everyone who hates the idea of a rebuild points to buffalo, and edmonton, conveniently ignoring chicago, la, boston, tampa, and probably soon toronto.  Each rebuild is its own combination of talent evaluation, lottery luck, and talent available in the current draft.
i am no fan of kh, but he is certainly not as deficient as edmonton, or buffalo’s gms have been.

Posted by akwingsfan on 03/12/18 at 12:26 PM ET

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It’s simply a difference in philosophy.

Would our prospects be better long term if they played now as opposed to in a couple years with AHL seasoning?

Not over-ripening of course.

Posted by ilovehomers on 03/12/18 at 12:31 PM ET

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For me, it’s combination of things.

Going into next year, keep 4 vets. Any of them, don’t care who. Going into next year, have DDK, Ericsson, Kronwall, Jensen, Daley. Pick your four. Not Green. that injury is a no-go.

Bring up 2 prospects. Hicketts and if you really don’t think Hronek is ready, bring up Renouff or Russo even if they aren’t really prospects anymore.

Put Hicketts with a vet and not on the bottom pair with another prospect. Second pair, PK.  The next year (19-20), bring up Hronek.

Daley/Hicketts
Hronek/DDK
Ericsson/Jensen (re-signed?)

the next year, Bring up Cholo
Cholo/Hicketts
Hronek/DDK
Ericsson (trade him at the deadline then bring up Saarijarvi)/Jensen

that defense ends up very small and not physical. But oh well, thats how Kenny boy has drafted and I guess what a 7th D is for. You get a mix of vets and kids, while turning some of the kids into vets to groom the next kid.

Posted by ilovehomers on 03/12/18 at 01:01 PM ET

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Would our prospects be better long term if they played now as opposed to in a couple years with AHL seasoning?

Not over-ripening of course

Agree completely. All the successful rebuilds played the rookies when they were ready, whether that was right after being drafted for great talents like Kane or Toews, or after a few years in the minors (Marchand, Kreijci). That’s the different between the Chicago and Boston rebuilds and current Buffalo and Edmonton. Playing young players just because they’re young is how you become Buffalo or Carolina.

Posted by Snowy Shaw on 03/12/18 at 01:06 PM ET

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Posted by Snowy Shaw on 03/12/18 at 12:06 PM ET

You’re not alone, Snowy. Any comment that isn’t explicitly condemning KH or Blashill is seen as a defense. Yeah, let’s throw all of our kids to the wolves and expect them to produce right away. And then in a few years, when they’ve all failed and their confidence is shot, we can throw them out too. Oh wait, where’d all our prospects go?

Posted by hockeyfreak13 from Grand Rapids on 03/12/18 at 01:09 PM ET

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“I think it’s a process,” defenseman Mike Green said. “It’s a mindset right now, obviously this time of the season a big chunk of it is mental. We have to make sure we’re going into these games with the right process, right mind frame. Not only that, we’ve got to compete really hard every night to make sure we’re giving ourselves a chance. I think with that mentality we’ll get our wins here. It’s just unfortunate we have to make sure we win pretty much every night. There is a big task ahead of us.”

First of all, Green used the word process twice in the same quote, so he is signing here I guess. Who else will be OK with signing a 32 years old with a herniated disc problem that might require a surgery. Second of all, imo Green absolutely checked out mentally after the trade deadline, his head is not in the game at all.

Posted by VPalmer on 03/12/18 at 01:21 PM ET

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You mean like those great rebuilds in Edmonton and Buffalo?

OK, so you don’t believe in rebuilds.

Cool.

Bye.

Posted by CharDeeMacDennis on 03/12/18 at 03:18 PM ET

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You’re not alone, Snowy. Any comment that isn’t explicitly condemning KH or Blashill is seen as a defense.

Awww, poor victim.

Maybe you’ll feel better if you build a nice straw man that you can knock down. That might help your confidence.

Yeah, let’s throw all of our kids to the wolves and expect them to produce right away.

See, there you go! I knew you had it in you!

Posted by CharDeeMacDennis on 03/12/18 at 03:21 PM ET

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Maybe you’ll feel better if you build a nice straw man that you can knock down. That might help your confidence.

Posted by CharDeeMacDennis on 03/12/18 at 03:21 PM ET

OK, so you don’t believe in rebuilds.

Cool.

Bye.

Posted by CharDeeMacDennis on 03/12/18 at 03:18 PM ET

Oh, the irony

Posted by Snowy Shaw on 03/12/18 at 03:34 PM ET

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Oh, the irony

You not getting sarcasm isn’t irony.

Posted by CharDeeMacDennis on 03/12/18 at 03:41 PM ET

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Maybe you’ll feel better if you build a nice straw man that you can knock down

Well, I wasn’t specifically arguing against you CDMD, but it would help if I knew exactly what you are advocating. “Play the kids” is pretty vague. Do you like ILH’s plan?

Posted by hockeyfreak13 from Grand Rapids on 03/12/18 at 03:42 PM ET

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Yeah, let’s throw all of our kids to the wolves and expect them to produce right away. And then in a few years, when they’ve all failed and their confidence is shot, we can throw them out too. Oh wait, where’d all our prospects go?

Well stated. While the defense is a mess, playing all the kids on defense would just make it worse. While I agree the Red Wings need a serious rebuild on defense, there still needs to be some veteran presence. An obvious balancing act for sure.  confused

Posted by bigfrog on 03/12/18 at 08:46 PM ET

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