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Powerless?  Maybe. And You Know What?  That Might Be Ok

If it hasn’t been fixed by now?  18 games or whatever’s left probably isn’t enough time to fix the power play.  That’s an unpleasant reality we may just have to force down like a Bud Light Platinum.  Amazingly, RWBill was sober enough for an hour or so today to bring us a ditty we that might bring us joy if it continues into the postseason.  Check this out, if you haven’t seen it already.

In 2011 the Stanley Cup Champions had the #14 of 16 power play conversion of all playoff teams. 

6 of the top 7 highest PP % teams in the playoffs were eliminated in the first round.

What did the 2011 Stanley Cup Champions have in common with the 2012 Red Wings? .. The best 5x5 GF:GA ratio in the playoffs.  They also had the best GA average in the playoffs.

Detroit stands at #1 5x5 in the league, by almost .2 goals per game, 1.58 : 1.00 compared to StL 1.41.

In 2010 the Champions had the #5 PP %.  In 2009 the Champions had the #7 PP %.

In 2008 the SC Champions had the playoff best 5x5 of 1.62.  They had the inept #9 PP at 18%.  They were the Detroit Red Wings.  They had a playoff best GA of just 1.86.

2007 the Champions had a weak 18% PP, but #2 5x5 and #3 GA.

You have to go back to 2006 before you find a team whose PP% ranking was better than its 5x5 ranking, and then its GA was #3.

Any references to playoff failure due to a weak PP are just unbased and silly.  PP% has never been linked to playoff success.  It is one of the most irrelevant team statistics to playoff success.

GA and 5x5 efficiency are closely linked with playoff success.

Now. Settle down. We have no idea if Bill was (a) actually sober or (2) took enough time out of his day to stop surfing porn to actually look those numbers up.  We just don’t know.

But it is something to consider, especially when you’d like to think a penalty is much tougher to call in the postseason than during Gary’s ridiculously irrelevant regular season…unless you’re San Jose or Colorado and you’re just trying to, you know, get into the playoffs. 

And holy Christ we know that’s a fairy tale, the part about officiating being more…deliberate…in the postseason. That’s pie in the sky stuff there.  But it does warm us a little when all we can think about is the fact that the most offensively talented team in hockey can’t score a damn goal with a man advantage.

And don’t go all RSV on me just yet. Datsyuk will be back. TPH will be back. Bundy will be back and it doesn’t really matter, on the surface, whether Kindl’s back or not.  Or when. 

It’s a Live Blog bitches. As I write this it’s 2147 Tuesday night CVST.  I’m hitting the rack. See you sick bastards in five or six hours.

 

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monkey's avatar

Posted by monkey from Finland on 03/07/12 at 01:00 AM ET

Rumbear's avatar

Ima out….night all.

Posted by Rumbear from Top O the Hasek, hanging with Dan Cleary.... on 03/07/12 at 01:01 AM ET

monkey's avatar

Time to masturbate to a 3 way with the Deschanel sisters.

I didn’t know they made those kinds of videos.

Posted by monkey from Finland on 03/07/12 at 01:01 AM ET

RWBill's avatar

When we finally meet, remind me not to shake hands with you.

Posted by dougie on 03/06/12 at 09:58 PM ET

Can we play tummy sticks?

Posted by RWBill from the open bar on The Hasek. on 03/07/12 at 01:02 AM ET

RWBill's avatar

Yes! Raylan Givens, thanks for the reminder.  And switching from tea to rum to forget that game.

Posted by RWBill from the open bar on The Hasek. on 03/07/12 at 01:03 AM ET

Guilherme's avatar

Power play directly responsible for another loss.

No, leaving the puck on the ice right behind your own net for the other team was directly responsible.  You can never lose 0-0.

Only the power-play unit can allow shorthanded goals.

Posted by Guilherme from Brazsil on 03/07/12 at 01:03 AM ET

CaptainDennisPolonich's avatar

I didn’t know they made those kinds of videos.
Posted by monkey from here to Timbuktu on 03/06/12 at 10:01 PM ET

They make every kind of video. Don’t you watch “Real Sex” on HBO?

Posted by CaptainDennisPolonich from The Land of Fake Boobs and Real Nuts on 03/07/12 at 01:03 AM ET

RWBill's avatar

I didn’t know they made those kinds of videos.

Posted by monkey from here to Timbuktu on 03/06/12 at 10:01 PM ET

Bone for Bones.

Posted by RWBill from the open bar on The Hasek. on 03/07/12 at 01:04 AM ET

CaptainDennisPolonich's avatar

Cawks finally break the shutout. 3-1 Blose w/ 15:44 togo in the 3rd

Posted by CaptainDennisPolonich from The Land of Fake Boobs and Real Nuts on 03/07/12 at 01:07 AM ET

RWBill's avatar

Only the power-play unit can allow shorthanded goals.

Posted by Guilherme from Brazsil on 03/06/12 at 10:03 PM ET

Oh Crap!

Posted by RWBill from the open bar on The Hasek. on 03/07/12 at 01:08 AM ET

monkey's avatar

Only the power-play unit can allow shorthanded goals.

And only YOU can prevent forest fires.

Posted by monkey from Finland on 03/07/12 at 01:09 AM ET

tuxedoTshirt's avatar

You can never lose 0-0.

Bettman says otherwise.

Posted by tuxedoTshirt from the Home of the 1937 World Champions on 03/07/12 at 01:10 AM ET

Guilherme's avatar

And only YOU can prevent forest fires.

Nah, power-play units also can prevent forest fires.

Posted by Guilherme from Brazsil on 03/07/12 at 01:11 AM ET

monkey's avatar

You can never lose 0-0.

SHOOTOUT

Posted by monkey from Finland on 03/07/12 at 01:11 AM ET

Guilherme's avatar

To the guy who coaches the PP:

If you can’t help the team, just don’t fuch it up.

Posted by Guilherme from Brazsil on 03/07/12 at 01:12 AM ET

cigar_nurse's avatar

I haven’t seen these many gaffs with a goalie attempting to move a Puck since the CMOI.

With TPH out,Whitey showing me he is not a # 1 or 2 D.
I think Kronner gets the fine and no suspension.
Until Friday 19.

Posted by cigar_nurse from Greenville South Cakalakee on 03/07/12 at 01:18 AM ET

mrfluffy's avatar

With TPH out,Whitey showing me he is not a # 1 or 2 D

Neither was Rafalski (sans 2008, the only year he was worthy of being #2).

Posted by mrfluffy from A wide spot on I-90 in Montana on 03/07/12 at 01:19 AM ET

Yzersyuk's avatar

Was a fun game to watch but a very disappointing outcome considering the flyers barely set up in the red wings zone at all.

Posted by Yzersyuk on 03/07/12 at 02:45 AM ET

Primis's avatar

Man, I’m SOOOOOO glad that the Power Play isn’t important or anything.

So… can we stop the dumbassery now… finally… and some of you in the Cult of Babcock own up to the fact that he and his handpicked associates are NOT getting the job done w/ the Special Teams and that it’s hurting the team badly?

Or are we due for another year of excuses still?

No wait, I’m sure it’s ALL just Franzen’s fault…  because it makes perfect sense to blame the team’s leading goal-scorer who’s pretty much still on pace with his career average.  Yeah, it must be HIS fault.

Posted by Primis on 03/07/12 at 10:03 AM ET

Primis's avatar

With TPH out,Whitey showing me he is not a # 1 or 2 D

Neither was Rafalski (sans 2008, the only year he was worthy of being #2).

Posted by mrfluffy from Long Beach on 03/06/12 at 10:19 PM ET

To be fair, the problem is you don’t really have #2 dmen anymore, you have a guy that pairs well with the #1 and you have a First Pairing.  Injuries to the other pairings can break up that first pairing even.  Similarly, I think you generally don’t have a #4 d-man either, you have a #3 d-man and a Second Pairing.

I think White as Lidstrom’s partner is quite good (and of course he’s a righty…. and of course Nick makes EVERYONE looks good).  However, without Nick he’s a 3rd pairing d-man I believe.  Which we seem to have an abundance of, which is part of the problem… We basically have a #1, a 2nd Pairing, and then a bunch of other guys that are 3rd pairing guys (and yes I’m including Quincey in that, 1st pairing in COL = 3rd pairing in DET).

Posted by Primis on 03/07/12 at 10:12 AM ET

Primis's avatar

With more thinking about the d-men… Lidstrom’s (assuming he plays another year, which I think he will) got an OK partner in White but not ideal, but who then is Kronner’s partner next year when Stu goes?

That could be rough.  Nick and Nik both could really be without ideal partners next season unless they do rein in a Suter or something.  And say they DO get Suter… then who does Suter play with, Nick or Nik?  Which makes more sense?

Posted by Primis on 03/07/12 at 10:20 AM ET

RWBill's avatar

I don’t believe you will find anyone who said that special teams are not important.
Putting words in the mouths of others and inferring meanings that were never stated is a tactic used by some to try and bolster their own weak positions.

What IS blatantly false is that an unfixed PP = 1st round elimination, one of the dumbest statements of all.

How about that Hudler pass on the early PP?  It went about 6 feet straight to one of the Flyers.  It was probably only surpassed in futility by the blue line turnover later that lead to the shorty.

It is a sorry state when your PP has become a defensive liability.

Posted by RWBill from the open bar on The Hasek. on 03/07/12 at 12:01 PM ET

Primis's avatar

How about that Hudler pass on the early PP?  It went about 6 feet straight to one of the Flyers.  It was probably only surpassed in futility by the blue line turnover later that lead to the shorty.

It is a sorry state when your PP has become a defensive liability.

Posted by RWBill from the Land of 12 in 12. on 03/07/12 at 09:01 AM ET

But who put Hudler on the ice for the PP?  Happy didn’t just hop over the boards of his own volition (well ok, it’s possible he did, but highly unlikely)...

Stupidity is repeating the same mistakes and expecting different results.

Posted by Primis on 03/07/12 at 12:47 PM ET

Jeff  OKWingnut's avatar

There have been at least a few games when Hudler, on the point of the PP has been ineffective in the least, and detrimental a few times.

The inference is that DET’s coaching staff think the alternative to Hudler on the point is worse (that is terrifying).

I give a small amount of deference to the fact that two HOF’ers are out.

But that doesn’t excuse, in my mind, the overall ineptitude in even gaining possession in the offensive zone.  I can recall several instances of late where entire shifts on the PP cannot even gain the zone and get set-up - let alone create a fuching scoring chance (for our team).

And it isn’t like this is a new issue.

The few times of late where DET work the puck down low - DET has created some chances - - but then they go away from it?  Confounding.

Babcock says the Wings are in the business of winning.  The organization, playbook, and execution on the fuching PP indicate that isn’t the case - at all.

Fuch it all.  Put the #3 line out there and let them crash and bang.  At the very least they are unlikely to allow scoring chances the other way.

The PP has become not only a momentum killer, it is a huge liability.

The organization say they are in the business of winning - - fuching prove it.

Posted by Jeff OKWingnut from Quest for 12 on 03/07/12 at 01:54 PM ET

Jeff  OKWingnut's avatar

The organization say they are in the business of winning - - fuching prove it.

I should have added - - it is past time to fire the fuching PP coach, reassign his ass, or something.

Primis is right - - their stubbornness not only isn’t working to create scoring chances for us - they have gotten so bad, it is creating way too many chances the other way.

Posted by Jeff OKWingnut from Quest for 12 on 03/07/12 at 01:59 PM ET

WestWing's avatar

The power play has reached a point where it is now giving up more scoring chances than it creates, and allowing more goals than it scores.  Going on the power play now actually seems like a positive situation for the opposition, who more often than not use the Red Wing power play to create momentum for themselves.  That’s about as damning and bad as it gets.

I stand by my previous statement.  If the power play does its job effectively, the past two losses would have been wins.  Right now it’s costing them points in the standings pure and simple, and is the reason why they sit in 4th place instead fo 1st in the west. 

We all saw the games, and no amount of rationalizing or stats about past playoff performances changes what we’ve seen.  Two one-goal losses (both decided by special teams) in which an effective power play, stepping up, doing its job, converting chances, not giving up shorthanders, and most of all not giving the other team momentum to build off of (while seemingly sucking away whatever mojo the Wings may have had) every time they step on the ice, would have been more than enough to win either game.

Posted by WestWing from Portland, Oregon on 03/07/12 at 02:53 PM ET

dougie's avatar

Just stopped by to utter my favorite four word combination.

I.TOLD.YOU. SO.

Per malik

Detroit Red Wings defenseman Niklas Kronwall will not be suspended or fined for his hit on Philadelphia Flyers forward Jakub Voracek on Tuesday, an NHL spokesman said.

That is all.

Posted by dougie on 03/07/12 at 03:24 PM ET

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Welcome to Abel to Yzerman, a Red Wing blog since 1977.  No other site on the internet has better-researched, fact-laden and better prepared discussions than A2Y.  Re-phrase: we do little research, find facts and stats highly overrated and claim little to no preparation.  There are 19 readers of A2Y. No more, no less. All of them, except maybe one, are juvenile in nature.  Reminding them of that in the comment section will only encourage them to prove that. Your suggestions and critiques are welcome: wphoulihan@gmail.com