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from Helene St. James of the Detroit Free Press,

The success or failure of the draft class won't be known for some time — it  generally takes at least two years to judge a draft — but we do have the benefit of hindsight when looking at the Wings' best and worst selections from 2008-17:...

The Misses
1. G Tom McCollum

Age: 29.

Drafted: 30th, 2008

He played three NHL games with the Wings. Meanwhile. at 93rd in that draft, the Washington Capitals drafted Braden Holtby, their franchise goalie and a Stanley Cup champion.

2. F Tomas Jurco, D Xavier Ouellet, D Ryan Sproul
Ages: 26; 25; 26.

Drafted: 35th, 2011; 48th, 2011; 55th, 2011

None are in the organization anymore and all spent last season in the AHL. They’re grouped together because they were drafted ahead of Nikita Kucherov (58th, Lightning). Kucherov is the leading scorer (462 points) from this draft class and the Wings had three shots at him in the second round and whiffed.

3. F Riley Sheahan
Age: 27.

Drafted: 21st, 2010.

Sheahan carved out a serviceable NHL career (149 points, 447 games), but he pales against the first-round picks the Wings could have landed: Evgeny Kuznetsov (26th, Washington) has 337 points in 416 games. Brock Nelson (30th, Islanders) has 124 goals among 241 points in 480 games; Charlie Coyle (28th, San Jose) has 248 points in 500 games....

more Misses and all the Hits...

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Would be nice to have O’Reiily, Kucherov, Point, Lee, Kuznetsov and Holtby on the roster now.

Posted by VPalmer on 07/15/19 at 10:34 AM ET

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Or to draft with the benefit of hindsight.

Posted by MurrayChadwick from YzerGod's pixie dust fueled bandwagon on 07/15/19 at 11:33 AM ET

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Are Svech and Saarijarvi really misses? They haven’t even gotten a shot yet.

Posted by Temo from La Capital, Míchígán on 07/15/19 at 11:39 AM ET

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Are Svech and Saarijarvi really misses? They haven’t even gotten a shot yet.

And, to your point, can Cholowksi, Rasmussen, Lindstrom and Larsson really be considered hits yet?

Posted by CharDeeMacDennis on 07/15/19 at 11:47 AM ET

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In other news, one of the betting sites has the Wings at 50/1 to win the Eastern Conference.

Only Ottawa is worse at 80/1.

The top 4…

Tampa Bay Lightning           4/1

Boston Bruins                   7/1

Toronto Maple Leafs           7/1

Florida Panthers                 9/1

Posted by Paul from Motown Area on 07/15/19 at 12:00 PM ET

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Half the hits list havent even played a full nhl season yet.

Posted by Hootinani from the parade following Babs out of town on 07/15/19 at 01:44 PM ET

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Drafts are hard.  grin


I am curious what other shake ups will come to the Scouting Depts.  Amateur scouts have hit a median mark which is expected, but what about the pro scouts? Many the Wings free agents signings for a while have not panned. This may not be all on the Scouts, but I know their input is important.

Posted by damndog revenge From the bowels of Detroit on 07/15/19 at 02:08 PM ET

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I mean, you can’t hit them all but it’s good news having Yzerman on our side knowing he would have selected Kucherov. We just need 2 or 3 of those ‘lucky drafts (one being a Defense)

I cringe at the thought though of selecting anyone over kucherov at 58. dang. lol you know what they about hindsight though, it’s 20/20

Posted by Pasha1277 on 07/15/19 at 03:37 PM ET

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This article starts ok but starts getting silly midway through.

Rasmussen is not a hit at #9 - at least not yet.
Due to being force-fed an NHL season too young he’s not
a miss either - at least not yet.

When you have three 2nd round picks some fairly early and
miss on Kucherov - but especially when all three are out the org,
none fetched too much in return (3rd round pick wasn’t awful for Jurco)
it’s fair to group those picks as misses.

But it’s too soon to call Svechnikov a miss.
It’s too soon to call even Saarijarvi a miss where he was drafted.

With the misses basically all she does is single out one excellent pick that came
later in that round - well, it’s one outlier great pick, not like a bunch of NHL players were picked later. And pretty much all the other teams missed on that player, too.

Given the odds of a player especially past the second round making the league and doing anything, it’s silly to call those guys misses.

Now you can look at an org and say: they’ve found almost no one of consequence in the second or third round and later in a few years - that hurts and is a legit criticism.
Even Frk was an ok pick in the end given where he was chosen. Not a good pick but sort of par for the course.

Posted by lefty.30 on 07/15/19 at 07:05 PM ET

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Rasmussen is not a hit at #9 - at least not yet.

And somehow Larsson is a hit even though he hasn’t played a game of professional hockey yet?

Posted by CharDeeMacDennis on 07/16/19 at 12:36 PM ET

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