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On Murph and DeKeyser

Fox Sports Detroit is smelling very much like shit right now.  Michael Petrella, of The Production Line, tweeted yesterday that the Wings had absolutely nothing to do with the firing of Larry Murphy. JJ's got the chronology here.  That's important, because if the organ-I-zation had directed it, but wanted it kept on the DL, you could see FS-Detroit falling on their sword and looking like the bad guy in order to maintain a good relationship with the Ilitch brood.

But...not so fast.

With Petrella's info that the Wings were as shocked as the rest of us?  Well, that's downright irresponsible on the part of Fox.  Stupid, really.  

#bringbackmurph has gained steam and Fox was in reactionary mode yesterday, releasing this bullshit statement.

“We wanted our primary team of Mickey Redmond and Ken Daniels to call the remaining games as the Red Wings make a push for the playoffs. We thought it was only fair to let Larry know as soon as possible that he would not be scheduled for any more assignments. We thank Larry for his contributions to our telecasts over the years and we wish him well.”  

Ratings.  That's what Murphy claims FS-D told him.  FS-D is backing away from that one, now...simply saying the above that they "wanted" Mick and Ken to call the rest as the Wings "make a push"?  What?

You don't fire a guy with fifteen games left in the season. You work it out so that he's gone when the season's done.  You don't take abrupt action like that over ratings.  You only go short-fused and fire people because of conduct.  And if it's conduct, you give Murphy the option of resigning, citing personal reasons, whatever.  

But if it were personal (beer, maybe?), Murphy wouldn't have publicly claimed total surprise. He would have simply faded away until the story died.

Instead, Murphy put FS-D on the defensive.  Like the rest of us, he's pissed and surprised.  And he's been saying so.

Murphy said he was scheduled to work the studio for the game at Calgary last Wednesday when he got a call “out of the blue'' from Hammaren the day before telling him he was terminated. He also had been slated to work in the broadcast booth during the four-game road trip that started Friday in Anaheim. But now Mickey Redmond is on the trip.

Why are these lessons so hard for corporations to learn? It's not advanced PR.  Did Fox really believe this thing was going to fly under the radar? Murphy leaves Fox in June and it's a one afternoon story.  Not anymore.

Next...

If Kenny Holland doesn't land this DeKeyser kid?  C'mon.  He's frigging gift-wrapped for the Wings.  Ties to the franchise, personal history in the state, probably a Wing fan because baby Jesus told him to be.

But watch out. This should sound familiar.  Remember the last time the Wings were in the hunt for a young stud d-man (before signing the sturdy, dependable Carlo Colaiacovo)?  Well, Justin Schultz went to Edmonton as we all know.  Tick Tock's on the verge of losing DeKeyser to the same team.

Of all the hockey news on a busy Sunday, the most welcome for Oilers fans was surely the report by TSN’s Bob McKenzie that Edmonton was going all out to land the top available college free agent, defenceman Dan DeKeyser. In fact, the Oilers are interested enough in the 6’3”, left-shooting rearguard that team owner Daryl Katz personally contacted him to sell him on the virtues of playing in Edmonton.  

Feel free to stress about this, because losing out on DeKeyser is bad on two levels.  We obviously need his skill set.  But more than that, losing him to a team like Edmonton? Discouraging for those of us who already whisper about the indications the Wings have fallen back to mediocrity in terms of organ-I-zational prestige.  This kid would have been signed already five years ago.  It's not a cap thing. It's not a CBA thing.  It's an aura thing.  

Detroit needs this one.

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Nathan's avatar

DeKeyser essentially can only be signed to the exact same contract by every team that is interested. So the Oilers going all-out can’t really mean much except some sort of promise of playing time.

I wouldn’t blame the Wings for being hesitate to ever guarantee playing time to a rookie, but at this stage, defense is a problem. Having to waive Huskins isn’t going to be a problem. White looks like he well may be on the way out. Sure seems unlikely that Quincey is kept around for anything other than a bargain deal two off-seasons from now. If there has ever been a time where the Wings really should be willing to slot a guy into some PT right from the get-go, it should be this situation. And I gotta think if they give him that assurance, there’s no reason Edmonton could possibly look better to him than Detroit.

Posted by Nathan from the scoresheet! on 03/25/13 at 07:18 AM ET

Vladimir16's avatar

Detroit needs this one.

YEP!

Posted by Vladimir16 from Grand River Valley on 03/25/13 at 07:19 AM ET

monkey's avatar

I’m not getting my hopes up.

Posted by monkey from Praha, Česká republika on 03/25/13 at 07:26 AM ET

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You don’t fire a guy with fifteen games left in the season.

Sure you do.  Welcome to TV.  People get fired without notice all the time.

Detroit needs this one.

Yeah, it sucks for Murphy that he got canned.  Bummer.  A) If losing that salary in any way impacts his life I’d be shocked and saddened to discover that.  He made $17.9 mil just since 1989 and had pretty much a full decades worth of career which predated those salary records.  He almost certainly has made 20+ mil so far.  B) He’s not that great at his job, anyway.

B, IMO, is the important part.  Getting all lit up like this for Redmond or Daniels I could understand.  Murphy?  Really?  He’s barely decent.  That’s a guy you’re going to raise the barricades about?

This is a textbook case of advocates pining for something to be advocates about.  In reality, it’s just about a zero on the Richter scale of relevance.

Posted by HockeyinHD on 03/25/13 at 07:32 AM ET

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I wouldn’t blame the Wings for being hesitate to ever guarantee playing time to a rookie, but at this stage, defense is a problem.

They don’t even have to guarantee it.  All they have to say is ‘You only need to beat one out of Kronwall, Ericsson, Quincey and Coliacovo.  Do you think you can do that, Dan?”

At that point it’s up to him.

Posted by HockeyinHD on 03/25/13 at 07:35 AM ET

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If the Wings lose out on DeKeyser, it’s pretty hard to deny that all those second-hand reports about players not being sold on the “culture” of Detroit might have some truth to them.

This guy is gift wrapped. If they don’t snag him, metro Detroit’s image problem has become a problem for the Red Wings.

Posted by Mandingo from The Garage on 03/25/13 at 07:42 AM ET

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This guy is gift wrapped.

He’s not gift wrapped because Detroit won’t guarantee him playing minutes, just like they didn’t guarantee minutes to Schultz.

Instead, they’re going to just rely on him wanting to play in Michigan (*cough*Grand Rapids*cough*) more than he wants to play in the NHL this year.

However, maybe the reason they didn’t play Colaiacovo is that they plan on waiving him if DeKeyser signs?

Posted by Garth on 03/25/13 at 07:49 AM ET

Mandingo's avatar

He’s not gift wrapped because Detroit won’t guarantee him playing minutes

Posted by Garth on 03/25/13 at 08:49 AM ET

I’d be very surprised if they didn’t guarantee him minutes.

Posted by Mandingo from The Garage on 03/25/13 at 07:53 AM ET

IwoCPO's avatar

Detroit needs this one.

Yeah, it sucks for Murphy that he got canned.  Bummer.  A) If losing that salary in any way impacts his life I’d be shocked and saddened to discover that.  He made $17.9 mil just since 1989 and had pretty much a full decades worth of career which predated those salary records.  He almost certainly has made 20+ mil so far.  B) He’s not that great at his job, anyway.

Posted by HockeyinHD on 03/25/13 at 08:32 AM ET

Was reading comprehension not covered in your fancy pharmacy school, HD?  That “Detroit needs this one” line was in obvious reference to DeKeyser, not Murphy. I would have thought the three paragraphs leading up to it would have given that away. 

Usually your deliberately contrarian rants are so entertaining, too. Unfortunate.

Posted by IwoCPO from Sunny San Diego, bitches on 03/25/13 at 08:00 AM ET

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i AM SHOCKED, shocked i TELL YOU TO LEARN THAT SOMETHING FUNDAMENTALLY FLAWED, STUPID, OR DOWNRIGHT retarded WAS DONE BY A fox NEWS AGENCY, SPORTS OR OTHERWISE>

Posted by dougie on 03/25/13 at 08:16 AM ET

Jeff  OKWingnut's avatar

This guy is gift wrapped.

YEP, Mick said as much last night.

It would certainly be a (further) damning indictment of Holland and others if this kid does come to DET to play.

Posted by Jeff OKWingnut from Quest for 12 on 03/25/13 at 08:26 AM ET

Nathan's avatar

Well, I have to agree with HD on one count… Murph wasn’t good at his job. He could barely get sentences out. But that’s why we liked him, hah.

Posted by Nathan from the scoresheet! on 03/25/13 at 08:40 AM ET

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This guy is gift wrapped. If they don’t snag him, metro Detroit’s image problem has become a problem for the Red Wings.

I dont’ think the larger city culture is the issue.  The Tigers don’t seem to have any problems being a desirable destination.  It’s a team thing.  Maybe the most dynamic piece of the puzzle is Babcock, not the city.

Posted by MoreShoot on 03/25/13 at 08:40 AM ET

Guilherme's avatar

Getting all lit up like this for Redmond or Daniels I could understand.  Murphy?  Really?  He’s barely decent.  That’s a guy you’re going to raise the barricades about?

I always try to be polite, but what the fuch, dude? Yes, that’s the guy we’ll raise barricades, because HE WAS THE ONE THEY FIRED. Good lord, are you stupid? You want us to start a #KeepMickey campaign?

Posted by Guilherme from Brazsil on 03/25/13 at 08:43 AM ET

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Posted by Guilherme from Brazsil on 03/25/13 at 09:43 AM ET

You should’ve learned by now what HD’s shtick is.  What’s really funny is usually, I start reading a post and then have a WTF moment by something it says, I’ll quickly check the other and EVERYTIME it’s HD.  Like clockwork.

Don’t feed the trolls Herman.

Posted by HockeytownOverhaul on 03/25/13 at 08:47 AM ET

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lmao, other=author.

Posted by HockeytownOverhaul on 03/25/13 at 08:47 AM ET

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Schultz was never going to happen for Detroit, for the same reason DeKeyser should be a slam dunk for the Wings.  Schultz had ties to Western Canada, and wanted badly to stay in that region.  He and his agent said as much in interviews.  Add to that the young talent Edmonton has, as well as the guarantee of a permanant roster spot, and there was really no other choice for him.

Lets just hope staying in Michigan means as much to Dekeyser as playing in Western Canada meant to Schultz.

And also remember, before we get too hyped about Dekeyser:  Schultz is a much higher rated prospect, and hes not exactly lighting the world on fire in Edmonton.  He doesn’t have a ton of points, and even worse, I think his +/-  is double digit negative.

Posted by Hootinani on 03/25/13 at 08:52 AM ET

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Was reading comprehension not covered in your fancy pharmacy school, HD?  That “Detroit needs this one” line was in obvious reference to DeKeyser, not Murphy. I would have thought the three paragraphs leading up to it would have given that away.
Posted by IwoCPO from Sunny San Diego, bitches on 03/25/13 at 09:00 AM ET

HD didn’t make sense to me either, but I thought it was just my reading comprehension.  If anyone wants a mindless, personality-less broadcast crew just watch the NBC studio crew.  Mimicking them with Darren Elliott is not a great decision.

FSD just decided to shove this down our throats whore-style.

Why is DeKeyser gift wrapped for Detroit more than any other franchise?

Posted by RWBill from cruising Brush Street with Super Creepy Rob Lowe. on 03/25/13 at 08:53 AM ET

MsRedWinger's avatar

You should’ve learned by now what HD’s shtick is.

Yep.

Posted by MsRedWinger from Flori-duh on 03/25/13 at 08:56 AM ET

RWBill's avatar

The Tigers don’t seem to have any problems being a desirable destination.  It’s a team thing.  Maybe the most dynamic piece of the puzzle is Babcock, not the city.

Posted by MoreShoot on 03/25/13 at 09:40 AM ET

It’s not as much a team thing as the wide open check book of Mike Ilitch and his desire to win a world series.  The Tigs just signed a #4 starter for $16M a year this winter.  Side note, I was all in favor of giving Sanchez market price or better, which they did.

If Ken Holland could outbid everyone like the Tigers can, then we wouldn’t be having these conversations and signing guys like Coliaicovo without first getting the CarFax report.

Posted by RWBill from cruising Brush Street with Super Creepy Rob Lowe. on 03/25/13 at 08:58 AM ET

Guilherme's avatar

Why is DeKeyser gift wrapped for Detroit more than any other franchise?

Went to high school with Nill’s son, coached by Blashill in college, a bunch of other things I can’t remember (a little like Parise in MIN).

It’s not as much a team thing as the wide open check book of Mike Ilitch and his desire to win a world series.

His salary will be the same wherever he plays, so that’s a non-issue.

Posted by Guilherme from Brazsil on 03/25/13 at 09:02 AM ET

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(on a sidenote, can the Red Wings please stop catering to coveted free-agents? Tigers tickets and airplanes to Modano, Suter and Parise, and what it gave us? we missed chances, that’s it. Holland should go back to convincing guys to play for the Red Wings because they are the Red Wings)

Posted by Guilherme from Brazsil on 03/25/13 at 09:04 AM ET

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Holland should go back to convincing guys to play for the Red Wings because they are the Red Wings

I think the reason he has to cater to them is that playing for the Red Wings because they are the Red Wings hasn’t worked since Marian Hossa.

Posted by Garth on 03/25/13 at 09:26 AM ET

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Case in point, the Red Wings had to offer a second year on the contract offer to that cripple Carlo Colaiacovo in order to get him to sign even though nobody else in the NHL was even interested in him.

Posted by Garth on 03/25/13 at 09:31 AM ET

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if it were me, I’d be doing the same thing DeKeyser is doing…let all the teams roll out the red carpet and enjoy the hell out of that, while my decision to play in Detroit has been made since I was 8.

Posted by PaulinMiamiBeach on 03/25/13 at 10:09 AM ET

Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit's avatar

whore-style.

Best new phrase to hit the 19 in a while. Thanks, Jeff in Minot, and RWBill.

RWBill getting the most mileage out of it so far. Which means he has far more whore style than the rest of us. And, he knows how to use it.

Lets Go Red Wings!!!!!

 

Posted by Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit on 03/25/13 at 10:42 AM ET

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You don’t fire a guy with fifteen games left in the season.
Sure you do.  Welcome to TV.  People get fired without notice all the time.

  Detroit needs this one.

Yeah, it sucks for Murphy that he got canned.  Bummer.  A) If losing that salary in any way impacts his life I’d be shocked and saddened to discover that.  He made $17.9 mil just since 1989 and had pretty much a full decades worth of career which predated those salary records.  He almost certainly has made 20+ mil so far.  B) He’s not that great at his job, anyway.
B, IMO, is the important part.  Getting all lit up like this for Redmond or Daniels I could understand.  Murphy?  Really?  He’s barely decent.  That’s a guy you’re going to raise the barricades about?
This is a textbook case of advocates pining for something to be advocates about.  In reality, it’s just about a zero on the Richter scale of relevance.
Posted by HockeyinHD on 03/25/13 at 08:32 AM ET

^^^^This
Praise the lord there is a sane, realistic and articulate person on this site!!!

Posted by statelouis26 from Detroit, MI on 03/25/13 at 10:42 AM ET

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i AM SHOCKED, shocked i TELL YOU TO LEARN THAT SOMETHING FUNDAMENTALLY FLAWED, STUPID, OR DOWNRIGHT retarded WAS DONE BY A fox NEWS AGENCY, SPORTS OR OTHERWISE>
   
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    dougie
     
      on 03/25/13 at 09:16 AM ET

Your caps lock button is on backwards.

Case in point, the Red Wings had to offer a second year on the contract offer to that cripple Carlo Colaiacovo in order to get him to sign even though nobody else in the NHL was even interested in him.
   
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    Garth
     
      on 03/25/13 at 10:31 AM ET

The Red Wings offered him a second year because there was a lockout, and having given him a signing bonus, if they missed the entire year, they would have been throwing away money for nothing (not that it turned out any differently, haha).

Posted by LivinLaVidaLockout on 03/25/13 at 10:48 AM ET

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^^^^This
Praise the lord there is a sane, realistic and articulate person on this site!!!

Posted by statelouis26 from Detroit, MI on 03/25/13 at 11:42 AM ET

LOL

Posted by awould on 03/25/13 at 10:57 AM ET

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Posted by HockeyinHD on 03/25/13 at 08:32 AM ET

^^^^This
Praise the lord there is a sane, realistic and articulate person on this site!!!

Posted by statelouis26 from Detroit, MI on 03/25/13 at 11:42 AM ET

In case you haven’t noticed this site is not for the sane or realistic. If you have a problem with this site, start your own blog along with HD.

The only time either of you post here is to fish for attention by trailing a baited line. Trolling.

Lets Go Red Wings!!!!!

Posted by Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit on 03/25/13 at 10:58 AM ET

Guilherme's avatar

Your caps lock button is on backwards.

A2Y Sarcasm Font™

Posted by Guilherme from Brazsil on 03/25/13 at 11:01 AM ET

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Praise the lord there is a sane, realistic and articulate person on this site!!!

Nice exclamation points.  You swallowed that one whore-style.

Posted by IwoCPO from Sunny San Diego, bitches on 03/25/13 at 11:06 AM ET

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Posted by LivinLaVidaLockout on 03/25/13 at 11:48 AM ET

Cute.

According to capgeek he didn’t receive a signing bonus, so I don’t even know if you’re right, but even if they did give him a signing bonus they didn’t have to.  They didn’t have to give him a signing bonus, they didn’t have to give him a second year and they didn’t have to sign anyone at all, two days before the lockout.

They concentrated on trying to get Suter and ignored everyone else and when they didn’t get Suter they looked around and saw that most of the other serviceable defensemen were gone.  What was the point in signing a defenseman two days before the lockout that everyone knew was coming?

And as for “throwing away money”, what did they do this entire season, paying him to be injured?  Or what about the money they pay him to not play for Detroit once they buy him out this summer?

Posted by Garth on 03/25/13 at 11:07 AM ET

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This blog would use more educational content, some religion and why not toss in politcial dialogue as well. Chief, ever consider giving out PHD’s in pharmacology?
Good effing grief, move along… we’ll be just fine without you wallowing in our collective juveniliciousness.

Posted by MOWingsfan19 from I really like our team on 03/25/13 at 11:13 AM ET

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  Praise the lord there is a sane, realistic and articulate person on this site!!!

Nice exclamation points.  You swallowed that one whore-style.

Posted by IwoCPO from Sunny San Diego, bitches on 03/25/13 at 12:06 PM ET

Nicely articulated, Master Chief.

Lets Go Red Wings!!!!!

Posted by Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit on 03/25/13 at 11:16 AM ET

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In case you haven’t noticed this site is not for the sane or realistic. If you have a problem with this site, start your own blog along with HD.
Posted by Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit on 03/25/13 at 11:58 AM ET

Love the site.  It’s an opinion different than yours bandwagon Kate, deal with it.


Praise the lord there is a sane, realistic and articulate person on this site!!!
Nice exclamation points.  You swallowed that one whore-style.
Posted by IwoCPO from Sunny San Diego, bitches on 03/25/13 at 12:06 PM ET

Keep up that journalist integrity and stay classy San Diego.

Posted by statelouis26 from Detroit, MI on 03/25/13 at 11:46 AM ET

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Keep up that journalist integrity and stay classy San Diego.

Hilarious movie reference, bro!

And what journalist?!?!

Posted by Garth on 03/25/13 at 12:08 PM ET

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I get the feeling that StL26 is a sock

Posted by redxblack from Akron Ohio on 03/25/13 at 12:22 PM ET

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The Chief is a journalist???

noe waiz.

[mind fuchin’ blown]

Posted by SYF from The Revenge of Johnny E on 03/25/13 at 12:24 PM ET

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I get the feeling that StL26 is a sock

And an argyle one at that.

Posted by calquake on 03/25/13 at 12:49 PM ET

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