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Note To Commodore: Don’t Do It

IwoNote: Thought I’d bring this comment up top, because irritating people like this is really a joy that hasn’t stopped in five years of blogging.

Third, and most importantly… “You’re a Detroit Red Wing now, Mike Commodore.” is utterly, filthy disgusting arrogance.

Exactly.  I’m a Wing fan.  Filthy. Disgusting.  Arrogant.

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Yep, I’ll be the one to say it.  Or, at least I’ll be the one to devote a post to it.

You’re a Detroit Red Wing now, Mike Commodore.  You’re not a gimmick and you don’t need alternate story lines to endear yourself to the best fans in hockey.  Play hard. Lay some wood in front of Jim Howard. Kill some penalties and be a leader. 

This guy takes 64 and he’ll be a clown everywhere he goes.  Every out of town paper will ask him about it. Every beat writer who needs a quick story is going to head right for Commodore.  Wear it for exhibition season. Raise some money (and kudos to Puck Daddy for the idea).  But when the regular season rolls around?

That’s when you get down to business.  It’s your frigging livelihood, not a lemonade stand sales pitch for a franchise that doesn’t need it. Leave ploys like this to Carolina, to Denver, to Phoenix, to Nashville…wherever it’s necessary to sell tickets or gain attention for a reason other than hockey.

JJ put it best right here

I’m more than happy to bark and clap like a seal for Commodore actually going through with it, but I want him to want to do it rather than feel some sort of overwhelming obligation to put on the clown nose and get hit in the face with pies for our amusement.

Bottom line is I don’t like that he basically has to become the jerkhole for choosing not to wear #64 for whatever reason he might have (which is just as valid as anybody’s reason why he SHOULD be wearing it)

And don’t even try to pull the charity aspect either - If it’s such a good cause, all the people who pledged should be giving the money to them regardless of whether Commodore plays along.

You want to give money to charity? Have at it.  There’s a children’s hospital right around the corner who would love a donation, or even a few quiet visits to some kids who would love to see you.  Hell, we’ll help you out. The hockey world knows the 19 have proven ourselves as some of the most generous fans around.  But taking a number to appease the nerd sect, no matter the amount raised—an amount that could be equaled in many other ways—it’s not the Red Wing way.

You’ve been hired to keep Jimmy’s playhouse clear, Mike.  You were brought on to be a bad man with a purpose, not a punch line.  Not in Detroit.

 

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Well said!  Wear it in the preseason, everyone makes their donations, auction the jerseys off to make some more coin.  Everyone wins!

Posted by Steve on 07/09/11 at 03:24 PM ET

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Yeah we wouldn’t want anybody using DETROIT as a punchline. (Says the guy from the city where the Wire was filmed)

Posted by flacco5 on 07/09/11 at 03:28 PM ET

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I actually think that wearing it on the preseason, then going with another for the regular season, that would be a gimmick. I mean, at least about 100 nerds would sbuy his Commodore 64 thing, then he goes another number (and maybe 10 of those buy his #22?), that’s a selling gimmick to me.

If he wants to do it for himself and not to please some nerds, if he can take people taking shots at how 80s computers were slow, stupid and broke down after a while, if he completely understands what he’s doing, then go for it.

If not, go with #22 or whatever (though I think Lebda’s jersey should be burn in hell retired), that’s fine too, and whoever calls him out for it is a major douchebag.

Posted by Guilherme from Brazsil on 07/09/11 at 03:30 PM ET

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and whoever calls him out for it is a major douchebag

To complete my thought, I was hoping the Wings said he couldn’t wear it, so the choice wouldn’t come down to him.

Posted by Guilherme from Brazsil on 07/09/11 at 03:35 PM ET

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Agreed, completely. It’s a ridiculous gimmick and I hope that—unless he truly wants it—he goes with #22. Neat idea raising pledges for fans to urge him to do it, but he shouldn’t feel pressure for something like that. When the initial “haha” factor wears off (nine seconds after he says he’s going to wear it), there are 82 games to play with a stupid number on your back.

I get the nostalgia, but this is even too dorky for me.

Posted by Michael Petrella on 07/09/11 at 03:38 PM ET

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Play the best NHL hockey of your life and let your resurrected career be your claim to fame, not some contrived BS novelty crap.!

Posted by Number9Loyalist on 07/09/11 at 04:14 PM ET

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I didn’t know that: apparently Columbus fans tried to get him to were #64. He didn’t.

That alone should tell us he’s not thrilled with the idea, and probably will do it only because of this pressure.

Posted by Guilherme from Brazsil on 07/09/11 at 04:15 PM ET

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were #64

Wear.

Posted by Guilherme from Brazsil on 07/09/11 at 04:15 PM ET

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With ya there, Chief.

The interesting aspect is how big of a damn deal it’s become. It’s moderately amusing - sure. But people are acting like it’s the biggest punchline in all of history; like Kanye’s a Gay Fish rubbed nasties with The Aristocrats and popped out a super-joke. It’d be quirky. Hell, if he had personally elected to take it, maybe it would even be endearing - showing that he’s got a sense of humor. But considering he wasn’t where the idea originated, he’d just be tacking someone else’s punchline to himself. And for what? So nerds with too much (clap, clap) time on their hands can get their rocks off to an almost amusing jersey number? Dumb.

Who would buy the damn thing anyway? I’d put good cash on the fact that even the hard core nerds are mostly not willing to drop $160 on a brand new jersey for a guy on a one year contract, with a history of being shipped to the AHL mid-season for behavior and conditioning issues. A #6 Damn who hasn’t yet played a game for the Wings and will likely find himself rotating in and out of the press box. Doubt it.

Though, I’m equally opposed to #22. That number’s got bad ju ju.

Posted by CaptNorris5 from The Winged Wheel, stuck in Chicago on 07/09/11 at 04:17 PM ET

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Yeah we wouldn’t want anybody using DETROIT as a punchline. (Says the guy from the city where the Wire was filmed)

Posted by flacco5 on 07/09/11 at 02:28 PM ET

Swing and a miss. Close though… you were only 526 miles off.

Plus… The Wire isn’t a comedy. Even if you were remotely right about the location, you’d still be a moron for not knowing what a punchline is.

Posted by CaptNorris5 from The Winged Wheel, stuck in Chicago on 07/09/11 at 04:19 PM ET

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Who would buy the damn thing anyway? I’d put good cash on the fact that even the hard core nerds are mostly not willing to drop $160 on a brand new jersey for a guy on a one year contract, with a history of being shipped to the AHL mid-season for behavior and conditioning issues.

Increase the cost to $256 to see if you can get them to bite on the added nerd factor.

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 07/09/11 at 04:25 PM ET

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with a history of being shipped to the AHL mid-season for behavior and conditioning issues.

Seriously?  Something happening once equals “a history of”?

That’s kind of unfair.

Posted by Garth on 07/09/11 at 04:36 PM ET

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Seriously?  Something happening once equals “a history of”?

That’s kind of unfair.

Posted by Garth on 07/09/11 at 03:36 PM ET

In this case, yes, it kind of does.

He’s been called out for conditioning issues more than once in his career as well. It’s part of the reason for the original spat with Babcock that they’ve since put under the bridge.

Don’t get me wrong, I hope Commodore goes bonkers and shows up looking like Captain America had a kid with Carrot Top and he ends up playing the entire season while seeing his enemies driven before him while hearing the lamentations of their women.

That doesn’t change the fact that he has a history of conditioning and attitude issues.

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 07/09/11 at 04:42 PM ET

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Meh, spoil sports. Honestly, I don’t care what number he goes with but I do find it amusing that he’s actually considering it. Other than the Chief (because I’m not sure how much one can get away with in his type of day job) doesn’t anyone else here try to have some amount of fun at work? It’s not like he’s a soldier putting purple polka dots on his uniform or a brain surgeon showing up with googly-eye glasses, for crying out loud. He’s a highly paid guy (all things considered) who plays a sport for a living. And I think we can all take the occasional ribbing that might come from it. Sh*t, look at the crap Detroit gets no matter what we do or how great our team is. Lighten up folks.

Posted by Jennemy of the Skate from the bar car on the stress train on 07/09/11 at 04:45 PM ET

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I don’t like the idea of him doing it ever since those Yahoo tools got involved. Charity is great, but having any of the PD guys associated with anything Wings related feels almost blasphemous. But whatever, it’s a jersey number - either way I can’t wait for the Fall. I’ve been watching Stevie Y clips on youtube trying to calm the shakes and jitters.

Posted by LGRWeh on 07/09/11 at 04:54 PM ET

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Seriously?  Something happening once equals “a history of”?

That’s kind of unfair.

Posted by Garth on 07/09/11 at 03:36 PM ET

Technically, yes. It happened to him. It’s in his history. It may not be an extensive history, or a history of repeated occurrences, but yeah - he’s got a history of those types of issues.

Though, I should point out that I’m not mentioning that to rip on Commodore, or suggest that I don’t like the signing. On the contrary. It’s just a point of saying I really don’t think many people are going to open up their wallets to get a half-amusing sweater for a guy who hasn’t taken the ice for the Wings, and poses a greater-than-normal risk that he could flame out and not even play a full season. Not that I think that will happen, but why dish out a boatload of cash on a sweater where’s its a reasonable risk?

Posted by CaptNorris5 from The Winged Wheel, stuck in Chicago on 07/09/11 at 05:00 PM ET

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Swing and a miss. Close though… you were only 526 miles off.

Plus… The Wire isn’t a comedy. Even if you were remotely right about the location, you’d still be a moron for not knowing what a punchline is.

Posted by CaptNorris5 from The Winged Wheel, stuck in Chicago on 07/09/11 at 03:19 PM ET

Think the guy you were quoting was trying to say he lived in Baltimore, not that the Wire was filmed in Det.

Posted by steviesteve on 07/09/11 at 05:07 PM ET

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Ah cmon guys, who cares?  This article adds to the spectacle.  Wether he wears 64 or not hes gonna be a 6/7th dman and Im sure its not gonna that big of a deal.

Posted by Matt in Vancouver on 07/09/11 at 05:18 PM ET

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Swing and a miss. Close though… you were only 526 miles off.

Plus… The Wire isn’t a comedy. Even if you were remotely right about the location, you’d still be a moron for not knowing what a punchline is.

Posted by CaptNorris5 from The Winged Wheel, stuck in Chicago on 07/09/11 at 03:19 PM ET

Think the guy you were quoting was trying to say he lived in Baltimore, not that the Wire was filmed in Det.

Posted by steviesteve on 07/09/11 at 04:07 PM ET

Well look who’s the moron now? Ha, I guess that’d explain the Flacco handle. I just assumed it was another attack on Detroit’s economic woes and got my panties in a bunch. Apologies.

Posted by CaptNorris5 from The Winged Wheel, stuck in Chicago on 07/09/11 at 05:20 PM ET

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I’ve kind of felt this way since the beginning.  The Red and White has too much tradition for crap like that.

Posted by bezukov from the kids are alright. on 07/09/11 at 05:35 PM ET

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It wouldn’t be as much of a gimmick as the ‘tude in this post.

Posted by D on 07/09/11 at 05:40 PM ET

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” Leave ploys like this to Carolina”

What the hell?  Sorry, dude, but Carolina has never resorted to ploys like this.  Lose your “not traditional hockey market” bias, ok?  I get your point but don’t lay it at the feet of teams who don’t deserve it.

Posted by Sally from Raleigh, NC on 07/09/11 at 05:50 PM ET

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What the hell?  Sorry, dude, but Carolina has never resorted to ploys like this.  Lose your “not traditional hockey market” bias, ok?  I get your point but don’t lay it at the feet of teams who don’t deserve it.

Posted by Sally from Raleigh, NC on 07/09/11 at 04:50 PM ET

Q.E.D.

Posted by CaptNorris5 from The Winged Wheel, stuck in Chicago on 07/09/11 at 05:53 PM ET

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His signing is fine as long as he doesn’t get out of hand with the gimmicks.  I’m sure there will be some people who buy his jury and that’s fine too.  Will I?  No, why invest in something that’ll be outdated in a season or 2?  As long as he keeps his nose to the grindstone he’ll be fine.

Posted by statelouis26 from Detroit, MI on 07/09/11 at 06:02 PM ET

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i dont even care what number he wears. It doesnt do a thing. What I DO care about is on-ice play. Thats what counts.

Posted by NIVO from underpants gnome village on 07/09/11 at 06:26 PM ET

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Who would buy the damn thing anyway? I’d put good cash on the fact that even the hard core nerds are mostly not willing to drop $160 on a brand new jersey

How much for a numbered T-shirt?

Hell, if he had personally elected to take it, maybe it would even be endearing - showing that he’s got a sense of humor.

Okay then.

Who’s in for the pledge drive?

Posted by Guilherme from Brazsil on 07/09/11 at 06:58 PM ET

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Oh gee lighten up.  I doubt there is too much pressure on the guy. 

Although, how much does he get from any jersey with his name and number?  Nerds across the country would buy it, not just the ones in Detroit.  Even ones who don’t even watch hockey.  Just think of all the new fans Detroit would harvest from that group.

Now if they would only just make Alexdandre Picard captain….

wink

Posted by jtarheel from South Jersey on 07/09/11 at 07:27 PM ET

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No Red Wing player has ever worn numbers 60 through 70.

Posted by datsyukian on 07/09/11 at 07:48 PM ET

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I’ll do you one better, Herm.  How’s this for our new guy?

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 07/09/11 at 07:54 PM ET

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I laughed hard at my stomach.

Posted by Guilherme from Brazsil on 07/09/11 at 07:59 PM ET

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First of all… it’s just a number.

Second.. lighten up.

Third, and most importantly… “You’re a Detroit Red Wing now, Mike Commodore.” is utterly, filthy disgusting arrogance.

Posted by clownfat on 07/09/11 at 08:02 PM ET

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yeah, while I definitely don’t give a crap either way about what number he wears, I have a feeling most away game media aren’t going to be clamoring for interviews with Commodore no matter what number he wears. you act like it’s going to be a team distraction or something. it’s a non-issue. the dude’s a nobody on our team.

Posted by perfection from LaLaLand on 07/09/11 at 08:16 PM ET

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NO GIMMICKS FOR THE DETROIT RED WINGS, THE BEST TEAM IN HOCKEY!

*throws Octopus*

Posted by Unterbutt on 07/09/11 at 08:25 PM ET

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Who cares what number he wears?

Seriously?

Posted by NickLidstrom from a Higher Ground on 07/09/11 at 08:38 PM ET

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*throws Octopus*

If Commodore wears #64 for half a century, we’ll have a word.

Posted by Guilherme from Brazsil on 07/09/11 at 08:44 PM ET

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Honestly, I hope he picks 64 just for the whiners.

Gimmick?  Yeah, so what?  Are we so pretentious we can’t deal with a guy willing to bring a little bit of levity?

Ooooh, the media’s going to ask him about it?  OH NO!!! However will the organization deal with the fact that players are being asked dumb questions?!!?  That never, ever happens!!!

It’s a number.  If he takes it, great.  If he doesn’t, great.  Why the gnashing of teeth?

If he plays well it’s not going to be because of the number on the back of his shirt, and if he plays poorly it won’t be because of the number either.

Lighten up.

Posted by Garth on 07/09/11 at 09:34 PM ET

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Who’s gnashing teeth? There are those that hopes he takes the number, and those that would prefer he just do his own thing. It’s not like this is the first time the idea could have ever been presented to him, and he’s elected to not take 64 before.

To me, the crazy part is how gung-ho people are about it. Like it would be the funniest thing since Dale Tallon started putting his john hancock on dotted lines. Amusing, fine. So utterly hysterical that the entire internet needs to start shltting gold bricks in anticipation, raising cash and tearing their hair out? Not quite.

Posted by CaptNorris5 from The Winged Wheel, stuck in Chicago on 07/09/11 at 09:46 PM ET

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How is this turning into a bigger issue than the debate over signing Modano?

Posted by Nate A from Detroit-ish on 07/09/11 at 10:08 PM ET

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How is this turning into a bigger issue than the debate over signing Modano?

Because that’s what Commie does. He becomes bigger than the team.

Having suffered under it down here, it is nothing short of glorious to see it happening up there. :D

Posted by Viqsi on 07/09/11 at 11:15 PM ET

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How is this turning into a bigger issue than the debate over signing Modano?

Posted by Nate A from Detroit-ish on 07/09/11 at 09:08 PM ET

Because somehow people think the Red Wings are above this sort of thing…


Yet Draper can pull practical jokes? What’s the bloody difference?

Posted by mrfluffy from A wide spot on I-90 in Montana on 07/09/11 at 11:19 PM ET

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