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New Low For Yahoo?  Absolutely

Greg Wyshynski will tell you he didn’t write it, so therefore he deserves no blame. No responsibility whatsoever.  Same patter. Same BS from innocent little Greg. 

Forget the swipes at the unemployment situation in Detroit. We get it. We’re used to it. We don’t get offended anymore.  It’s reality and we’re dealing with it.  But this?  Before it was deleted, here’s a line Wyshynski reviewed and approved for inclusion in the Puck Daddy Wing Eulogy.

Red Wing Eulogy/Puck Daddy

Our next guest is Vladimir Konstantinov! Roll your old bones up here, Vladimir, and say a few words…

Wyshynski left it there until the outcry in the comments became too one-sided.  He wasn’t done, though.

The man who is first on that list with an amazing 1,687 career games is Gordie Howe. And as soon as he remembers where Joe Louis Arena is located, I’m sure he’ll be here to congratulate you on your career. Or wish you happy birthday.

I’ve told you for years the reason why it’s an outright joy whenever Blues fans are disappointed. It’s comments like that. It’s the occasional Vlady references.  And yep, that was “written” by Brad Lee and Sean Gallagher from St. Louis Game Time.

Absolute scum bags.  And Wyshynski’s no better. Not one bit. Your blog, Greg.  Your rules.  It’s what you allow and what you promote. Disclaimers don’t mean squat. 

Dementia jokes about Gordie Howe?  And Konstantinov jokes before that? Got it. 

Defend this one, Greg. 

 

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George Malik's avatar

I didn’t think that things could get worse than what Lambert wrote last year, but this was worse.

Posted by George Malik from South Lyon, MI on 04/23/12 at 04:10 AM ET

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I found the entire thing so disgusting I needed to run to the porcelain throne after reading it.  I haven’t read Puck Daddy for years and this is just one more reason not to start again.  Completely uncalled for and pathetic.

Posted by cmk from the top part of MI on 04/23/12 at 06:08 AM ET

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Everyone needs a second set of eyes before pushing the publish button.
Editing matters.
Just because everyone is a publisher in the 21st century, that doesn’t mean everyone is a journalist.
I know Greg. Sure, he likes to be cute. He works hard. Probably cheats on his sleep to keep folks updated, informed and entertained.
Not enough to take down the comments or disclaim them, though. An apology is called for.

Posted by Steve Klein from Fairfax, VA on 04/23/12 at 07:05 AM ET

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Posted by Steve Klein from Fairfax, VA on 04/23/12 at 06:05 AM ET

A public apology to both the Howe and Konstantinov families are in order from both Puck Daddy and SLGT, but you and I both know it isn’t going to happen. 

The only way that “eulogy” could have stooped lower was if they put a Jiri Fischer joke in there too.

Posted by Forlorn in VA on 04/23/12 at 08:54 AM ET

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Just another reason why I never read that blog. Classless moron.

Posted by MsRedWinger from Flori-duh on 04/23/12 at 09:20 AM ET

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It is trash.  The blog site actually was not too bad a few years ago, but it has gotten worse and worse each year.  There is some serious hate that pours out of that site.

Posted by gretzky_to_lemieux on 04/23/12 at 09:37 AM ET

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There is some serious hate that pours out of that site.

There is something hilariously ironic about this comment being written on a Abel to Yzerman post….

Posted by Chris M from Ottawa on 04/23/12 at 10:00 AM ET

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It was completely over the line and, even with some of the stuff they’ve done in the past, I’m shocked that 1) anybody could possibly think making fun of handicapped people is funny, and 2) that whoever makes these decisions at Yahoo could possibly think it was acceptable or good idea to print it in the first place.

Perhaps the most weasely thing about it all though, was the disclaimer before the piece saying that people will be offended, and then the “non-apology apology” that has been perfected by so many politicians after they realized that they’d totally sh*t the bed: “I’m sorry you were offended.”

There will always be the legion of barely-literate pimple-faced 13-year-olds who populate that site who get off on stuff like this, so I doubt this will do much to impact their readership, but I don’t know how any person with any sense of decency cannot be really disappointed and disturbed that one of the most popular hockey blogs on the internet thinks this is acceptable discourse.

Posted by Mandingo from The Garage on 04/23/12 at 10:14 AM ET

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I can’t wait for the Pens eulogy. Hopefully the author will make fun of Lemieux’s cancer and Sid’s brain injuries. That will be hilarious stuff.

As editor, Wysh approves of making fun of such things, after all.

Posted by WingsFanInBeanLand from where free agents no longer dare. on 04/23/12 at 10:54 AM ET

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And yet, Lambert will endeavor to tell us that, “He doesn’t hate the Red Wings, he just hates their fans.”  Riiiight, keep playing it both ways, you guys over at PuckDaddy; I’ll continue to demur when the prospect of visiting your site presents itself.  That jab at a wheel chair ridden man and a dimentia sufferer really looks like nothing but good clean fun… again, its only directed at the fans.  Maybe next year you can spit on Bob Probert’s grave? 

I can take a few good natured jabs and sophomoric jokes, but this eulogy was nothing but personal.  Its too bad it had to involve people that did nothing to deserve this kind of vitriol.

Posted by bezukov from the kids are alright. on 04/23/12 at 11:01 AM ET

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And yet, Lambert will endeavor to tell us that, “He doesn’t hate the Red Wings, he just hates their fans.”

While Ryan Lambert is a gigantic douche nozzle, he didn’t write the piece any more than Wyshynski did.

Posted by Garth on 04/23/12 at 11:12 AM ET

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I sure hope whomever is writing the Predators eulogy doesn’t make any cheap shots or low blows.

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 04/23/12 at 11:23 AM ET

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I gotta laugh at the irony of THIS blog calling somebody else classless. Funny stuff.

Posted by eric from baltimore on 04/23/12 at 11:28 AM ET

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I gotta laugh at the irony of THIS blog calling somebody else classless. Funny stuff.

I am the first to admit that some posters are wayyyy over the line on KK; however, that is the discusting things of posters… not writers.  There is a difference.

Posted by gretzky_to_lemieux on 04/23/12 at 11:49 AM ET

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The post I wrote above was sarcastic.  I wrote the same thing on Search Daddy’s “three stars” post but it disappeared after a while.

I guess it’s OK for contributors and editors of his blog to post disparaging articles about people with life-altering circumstances.  The removal of the VK reference is kind of like the equivalent of getting fined $2500 for slamming a players face into the boards but when one sarcastically comments about how ridiculous the eulogy post was in the first place.  Well that’s like getting a $20,000 for talking bad about the refs or the Penguins.

Wysh is a piece of shit.  Plain and simple.

Posted by WingsFanInBeanLand from where free agents no longer dare. on 04/23/12 at 12:09 PM ET

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So, lets just say for example, if the wings sign jose theodore this summer as a back up and the wings are eliminated in the playoffs; is this d-bag going to make jokes about theodore’s new born child passing away too?  this guy is disgusting.

making fun of dementia and a terrible car accident that horribly altered multiple human being’s lives; only adrian dater would be proud of that.

Posted by 11B4PF7 in MN on 04/23/12 at 12:15 PM ET

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There was enough humor from the Wings 2011-2012 season that could have made for a really good eulogy but no, we have to go to how much Detroit sucks and then making fun of dementia and an accident that is still one of the most painful things for Wings fans to talk about. 

During the Pens/Wings SCF finals of 2008 and 2009 someone on here made some crack about Mario and cancer and he was run off. 

Joking about one of the greatest hockey players ever to play the game suffering from a cruel disease and the results of a horrible car accident that permanently altered someone’s life…just incredible.

Posted by hockeychic from Denver, CO on 04/23/12 at 12:36 PM ET

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I gotta laugh at the irony of THIS blog calling somebody else classless. Funny stuff.

Huge difference between the commenters and the blogger. Also, A2Y is a Red Wings focused blog, the purpose is obsessing about the Red Wings and hating all other teams. Puck Daddy is a generic hockey blog that purports to have no allegiance.

Let’s take a “hypothetical”. Say the the national broadcast crew on Versus seemed biased against the Red Wings and a bit too friendly towards the Blackhawks in every game they broadcast. I know, hard to imagine. They should be held to a different standard than the home team crew of Ken & Mick. It’s apples and oranges to compare the two, they should be judged differently.

Not that any of that matters really, no blogger on KK ever stooped so low as these idiots, and I’ve never personally seen anything in the comments to rival it either.

Posted by awould on 04/23/12 at 12:57 PM ET

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Couple of thoughts on the whole, ‘what did you expect from a Roast?’ defense.

A) Roasts are consensual; you agree to them knowing you’ll be made fun of.
B) Roasts are (usually), you know, funny.
C) To the extent that there’s no out-of-bounds for Roasts, its with the unwritten rule that the joke needs to match the outrage.
D) Points B+C are a big reason people agree to A)

This isn’t about being offended because its your team being Eulogized.  Its about a failure to be funny.  (eg. Slave ships aren’t funny…until Gottfried compares Lapenelli to one).  I don’t know if its a worse indictment of the Wings this season, or the SLGT writers that the only memorable lines in that piece dealt with two former players with disabilities.  Ok, its obviously the latter.  Bring back the likes of Lambert, the object of the jokes might be not be different but he’s usually more clever in the delivery.  If nothing else, you can at least feel the hate radiating from him, which is 100% better than this years blandness.

Posted by dumbasrocks on 04/23/12 at 01:16 PM ET

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While Ryan Lambert is a gigantic douche nozzle, he didn’t write the piece any more than Wyshynski did.

Posted by Garth on 04/23/12 at 10:12 AM ET

I was admittedly guilty on assumption on that detail.  Thats a distinction without a difference as far as I’m concerned.  Point stands.

Posted by bezukov from the kids are alright. on 04/23/12 at 02:04 PM ET

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I’ve told you for years the reason why it’s an outright joy whenever Blues fans are disappointed.

I completely agree with the general sentiment of this post, but this quote sounds almost as immature as the article you’re complaining about. Every fan base has its bad eggs (yes, EVEN Detroit) and to take out your frustrations with a few bloggers on an entire city of hockey fans seems a bit childish to me.

Posted by Bryan from Queens on 04/23/12 at 03:30 PM ET

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Thats a distinction without a difference as far as I’m concerned.

True enough.  I felt dirty defending him anyhow…

Posted by Garth on 04/23/12 at 03:41 PM ET

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Every fan base has its bad eggs (yes, EVEN Detroit) and to take out your frustrations with a few bloggers on an entire city of hockey fans seems a bit childish to me.

shouldn’t the standard be a little higher for a well known Yahoo blog?

there is a huge difference between the ARTICLE and the COMMENTS, also.

Posted by PaulinMiamiBeach on 04/24/12 at 09:20 PM ET

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I completely agree with the general sentiment of this post, but this quote sounds almost as immature as the article you’re complaining about.

—Childish?  Heck we like childish here.  IwoCPO practically perfected it. He revels in it, and we love him for it.

The two comments being talked from the blog that shall remain unnamed are not childish.  They are outright cruel and about on par with making fun of a player because his wife has cancer.

To say we take joy from watching a rival lose is pretty normal and I would say expected from most if not all fans of all teams.  I’m thinking your comparison is ill-conceived.

Posted by wedge56 on 04/27/12 at 11:37 AM ET

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Welcome to Abel to Yzerman, a Red Wing blog since 1977.  No other site on the internet has better-researched, fact-laden and better prepared discussions than A2Y.  Re-phrase: we do little research, find facts and stats highly overrated and claim little to no preparation.  There are 19 readers of A2Y. No more, no less. All of them, except maybe one, are juvenile in nature.  Reminding them of that in the comment section will only encourage them to prove that. Your suggestions and critiques are welcome: wphoulihan@gmail.com