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Just When We Thought He Couldn’t Get Any Dumber, Dater Proves Us Wrong

Evening 19, a quick post before I settle into today’s episode of Top Gear featuring the sexiest Ferrari since the Dino, the 458 Italia.

What’s not sexy?  Dater’s latest master(batory) post:

Time for another summer top-10 list, and this time it’s my duty to inform the world of the 10 best D-men currently playing in the NHL. This is another task that kept the synapses firing a lot longer than they were supposed to Thursday night…

It’s pretty elementary stuff, but the two things I rate higher than anything for D-men are: effectiveness at making the first pass or decision with the puck in their own zone, and how well they keep the play flowing from the point at the other end. Basically, the best D-men to me are the best passers of the puck, in every area of the ice.

Oh boy, here we go again.  What would be an “elementary” exercise turns into idiotic drooling from the start.

Pop quiz, bitches, who would you say is the NHL’s #1 defenceman?

If you have an IQ over 50, the answer would have to be Nick Lidstrom.  I don’t care how old he is, Lidstrom remains The Perfect Human and the league’s best blue-liner.

As we know, Dater’s intellectual faculties lie somewhere between wearing a helmet everyday and continually drooling on himself.  I can’t think of an NHL columnist that puts less thought into what he writes than Master Dater.  Want proof?  Let’s take his latest top-10 list as Exhibit 592 in Dater’s competency hearing.  Tell us, who is the league’s best defenceman, Dater?

1. Drew Doughty, L.A. Kings - He hasn’t paid his dues entirely. He’s too young. His rookie year was really just average. Those are the objections that will be made by some with this choice. But last season the 20-year-old showed what made him a can’t-miss kid coming out of Guelph of the OHL. Forget just the numbers - 82 game, 16-43-59 and plus-20. He showed everyone at the Olympics what a leader looks like, and if he hadn’t hurt a wrist in Game 1 of the opening round of the playoffs against Vancouver, the Kings might have easily won that series. Doughty gets the puck out of his end, and puts it in the net at the other end. He was the youngest player to get a Norris Trophy finalist nomination in league history, other than Orr.

Wow.  I am speechless.  Well almost…

If Drew Doughty is the league’s best defenceman, Rosby is the league’s best two-way forward.  While I do agree that Doughty is a stud, he has a LONG way to go before he tops any competent top-10 defenceman list.

But maybe Master Dater is being controversial to get page views.  He must come to his senses for the next couple of picks…

2. Duncan Keith, Chicago - There’s a part of me that’s suspicious, that thinks he had his career year already and can’t possibly keep it up going forward. But you just can’t ignore the numbers: 26:35 a game (second-highest in the league), 69 points and a plus-21 to go with a Stanley Cup and a Norris Trophy. It’s all there. Yeah, your scoring numbers as a D-man are always inflated on a team with great forwards. But that’s a chicken-and-egg argument.

3. Zdeno Chara, Boston - Did he slip a little last year? Yeah, a little. The goals dropped from 19 to 7, the play just a little less dynamic from his Norris Trophy showing the year before. But he’s still one of the handful of D-men nobody wants to play against. He’s just….so….big. And he plays with heart and soul.

To paraphrase the above, part of me is suspicious that Dater is nothing more than a million retarded monkeys hacking away at typewriters, while being slowly suffocated by nitrous oxide, who got themselves a forum on the network that Li’l Gary loves website.  Seriously.  What sane hockey fan would list Doughty, Keith, and Chara as the top three defenceman?  I can’t think of any. 

While Master Dater is enamored by Chara’s big stick, the rest of us see him for the half-useless D-man he is.  You do not build a winning team around Chara.  But what about The Perfect Human?

4. Nick Lidstrom, Detroit - While it’s tempting to want to drop him lower and cite his advancing age, the fact is he is still always the smartest player on the ice and posts better numbers than guys a lot younger. His slap shot has probably lost a couple miles an hour in the last couple years and there are times he’s not always in the perfect defensive position anymore. But he’s still one of the best, period.

Lidstrom is not one of the best, he is the best.  End of discussion.  And no point reading any further in Dater’s article, I’d rather have J.J. bring out the curling iron again than suffer through more of Dater’s ramblings.

Moving on, one of our many sexy grrrls at A2Y posted this an hour ago:

Posted by Nati on 08/01/10 at 10:32 PM ET
I was visiting Chicago this weekend and didn’t realize the Hawks were having their little convention thing downtown. Saturday I went for a run in the city and I was wearing a wings shirt. As I was nearing the hotel where the convention was I started realizing that there were a lot of hawk fans (er.. people in blackhawk merchandise) walking around. Basically became a pretty hostile environment for me. A lot of jeering, glaring, yelling, a couple middle fingers and when I got real close to hotel one guy attempted to spit at me. Really pleasant people those hawk fans. It was actually pretty amusing to see how worked up these people got over a red wings shirt.

To think the other day I almost felt sorry for the Chickenhawks bandwagon.  In an absolutely pathetic display, the bandwagon focused their rage on that which will always be greater than they are, a Red Wings fan.  If the Chickenhawks bandwagon would remove their heads from their asses, they would redirect their anger and vitriol to the management that raped their roster due to salary-cap mismanagement.  Don’t worry Nati, by the time you return to Chicago their bandwagon will have dissolved and you will have no trouble walking down the streets in anonymity again.

Malik, the showoff, is making great observatins (again) in this post which has a nice piece about Landon Ferraro before turning to salary cap talk:

the NHL allowed two of the five teams it actually markets to fans, the Chicago Blackhawks and Vancouver Canucks, to sign Marian Hossa and Roberto Luongo to five-year contracts…

Moreover, and perhaps most disturbingly, Gary Bettman, Bill Daly and the league seem to believe in preferential treatment toward their biggest allies during the lockout, like Boston Bruins owner and Board of Governors president Jeremy Jacobs, but newcomers without preferential status deserve the league’s scorn…

In other words, as we already know, some teams are more equal than others.

You know when Malik busts out an Animal Farm reference, he is getting hot under the collar.  He doesn’t stop there:

I think that the NHL’s acting both arrogantly and stupidly in this situation.  Shame on the NHL for daring to assume that its players and fans will fold in short order and give into a league that chooses to break its own rules and believes in periodically burning its village down in order to save it.

So I’ll conclude with something I never thought I’d say aloud (or type): Gary Bettman, you’re acting predictably like your little whiny spoiled brat self, and you deserve a five-minute major and a game misconduct for your immature actions.

Take a clue from Landon Ferraro and start acting like a grown-up instead of throwing yet another temper tantrum because you can’t get your way in imposing term limits upon contracts in search of your equally stupid dream of imposing utter parity upon 30 teams, 700 players and millions of paying fans who are the reasons why your league’s consistently earned over two and a half billion dollars while weathering a worldwide recession.

Is it wrong to declare my (hetero) man-love for Malik?  I didn’t think so.  I can’t quit you, George.  Call me.

Finally, where one blogger leaves, Hollis, another moves in to take his place.  Long-time member of the 19, and our arbiter of logical fallacies, J.J. from Kansas is wearing a new shirt.  And it’s not because Emma spat up on him.

J.J. has started to blog at Winging It In Motown.  You know, the non-juvenile popular Red Wings blog.  In true A2Y fashion, J.J. managed to get Bubba’s fans riled up in his very first post.  Keep it up, bitch, we’re looking forward to reading more from one of A2Y’s favourite sons.

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Claude from Colorado's avatar

Can Red Wings bloggers write about anything other than how the world hates their team? And swear?

Here my submission to be the next KK blogger:

“Who cares if Ted Lindsay is 85 years old. He’s still the best scoring winger in the NHL. Anyone who doesn’t agree likes being molested by Gary Bettman and other vague homophobic references.”

Oh and:

“Shit, piss, *#$%@&, *#$%@&, cocksucker, *#$%@&, tits.”

References are available upon request.

In all seriousness, explain to us why Lidstrom is still the best defenseman in the league. Present facts, numbers, etc. Don’t just call everyone else a pussy.

Posted by Claude from Colorado on 08/02/10 at 01:00 AM ET

Guilherme's avatar

Great post, bartender. Now pour me some Joe Corvo.

Lidstrom is the guy that forwards never want to face. He’s older, but his game never depended on physical attributes, so the performance drop is minimal. If anything, Nick has grown wiser and will lead us to two more Cups to wrap his Perfect Career.

And good luck on the new enterprise, JJ.

Posted by Guilherme from Brazsil on 08/02/10 at 01:03 AM ET

Flashtastick56's avatar

JJ is blogging now?

‘Bout time.

Posted by Flashtastick56 from Meriden, CT on 08/02/10 at 01:18 AM ET

George Malik's avatar

I hate using the word “stupid,” but Chairman Mao made me snap.  And thank you for the plug…and man-crush.

Posted by George Malik from South Lyon, MI on 08/02/10 at 01:26 AM ET

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Yes Nick is very capable of leading us to another 2 more Stanley cups just like Guilherme just said. YES Indeed.    rayz

Posted by rayzredwing on 08/02/10 at 03:15 AM ET

Down River Dan's avatar

Im not sure who is the truly “best” defenseman in the league right now?

Doughty, looks pretty good to me, but I want to see another season or two before I’m ready to anoint him #1.


However, I do know that there is absolutely NO WAY that big slow footed one trick (big shot) dufus Chara is a better all around defenseman than Lidstrom( even if Nick has slowed up a bit). He thinks the game better than 99.99% of the rest of the league, forwards included.

Posted by Down River Dan on 08/02/10 at 04:11 AM ET

Chris from NOHS's avatar

Top Gear is amazing.  I’m watching it in Oxford right now.

Posted by Chris from NOHS from Columbus, OH/Grand Rapids, MI on 08/02/10 at 05:31 AM ET

PaulinMiamiBeach's avatar

NO WAY that big slow footed one trick (big shot) dufus Chara is a better all around defenseman than Lidstrom

did you all really miss what Dater did?  he managed the expectations right up front.

the best D-men to me are the best passers of the puck, in every area of the ice.

translation: I know Lidstrom is the best, but I want to find a way to ignore most of what he contributes on the ice and allow the team’s system to negate the rest of his skills.

that one statement allowed Dater to ignore Lidstrom’s ALL AROUND skills, and use the fact that the team isn’t a “one pass up the ice from the dman” kind of team any more, to move Lidstrom down the list.

Posted by PaulinMiamiBeach on 08/02/10 at 09:05 AM ET

Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit's avatar

Don’t just call everyone else a pussy.

Posted by Claude from Colorado on 08/02/10 at 12:00 AM ET

                Can’t Understand Normal Thinking.

                  Lets Go Red Wings!!!!!

Posted by Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit on 08/02/10 at 09:13 AM ET

J.J. from Kansas's avatar

Thanks, for the support guys.

Doughty keeps getting graded on as-of-yet unrealized potential, same as Tyler Myers in Buffalo.  They’re both above-average defensemen right now, but it doesn’t make either of them better than the real top-tier guys just because they’re both so young.

When a 13-year old graduates from MIT, he still has the same degree as a 22-year old in his same graduating class and he’s only potentially better than the older guy who had a higher GPA, not actually better at that point.

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 08/02/10 at 09:18 AM ET

J.J. from Kansas's avatar

Can Red Wings bloggers write about anything other than how the world hates their team? And swear?

Posted by Claude from Colorado on 08/02/10 at 12:00 AM ET

You spend a lot of time trying to tell bloggers of a team you don’t like how they can write to better suit your tastes.  While you’re certainly dedicated, I worry that such an endeavor just isn’t very smart.  If Wings bloggers changed what they did to make you happy, they’d alienate the majority to suit the vocal minority.

Wings fans know Lidstrom is the best because we’ve seen Lidstrom throughout all the years.  Then, we see other guys for one game and they always seem to make at least one mistake that when made by Lidstrom would make us all simultaneously lament on Nick’s humanness.

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 08/02/10 at 09:27 AM ET

Sullyosis's avatar

Ahhhh Top Gear.  What a show.  Elitists who know everything and whose opinions are always spot on.  No wonder the 19 loves Top Gear.

Nicky is and always will be the greatest of our time, and I’ve seen too much of his greatness to ever go back on that.  Watching the way he keeps pucks from going past him that are at the height of his midsection, flying at full speed, with a quick whip of the stick as it tries to move between him and the glass, never gets old.

Posted by Sullyosis from A hateful lair in Post Apocalyptic US (or Arizona) on 08/02/10 at 09:47 AM ET

Guilherme's avatar

The entire Dater article is funny. This, about today’s defenders:

They all seem to skate as fast or faster than all the forwards. When’s the last time you got wide on a D-man and beat them cleanly?

He’s obviously not converted to the power of God Darren Helm Almighty, #43. Heck, he’s not converted to the power of Happy Jiri Hudler Horny, #26. Maybe 10% of defenders are faster than forwards, and that’s a stretch.

Posted by Guilherme from Brazsil on 08/02/10 at 09:51 AM ET

VooX's avatar

In all seriousness, explain to us why Lidstrom is still the best defenseman in the league. Present facts, numbers, etc. Don’t just call everyone else a pussy.

Posted by Claude from Colorado on 08/02/10 at 12:00 AM ET

We know the finer points of hockey are tough for mouth-breathing Dive fans, like yourself to understand.  (“And another left, and another left…” a perfect example).

Get your head out of your ass and actually watch some Wings hockey before you make a bigger fool of yourself around here.

And don’t tell us how to express ourselves, pussy.

Posted by VooX from Behind the Bar in the Hasek Club Car on 08/02/10 at 09:54 AM ET

VooX's avatar

Maybe 10% of defenders are faster than forwards, and that’s a stretch.
Posted by Guilherme from Brazsil on 08/02/10 at 08:51 AM ET

As Lidstrom proves every night, you don’t need to be faster than a forward if you are always in the right place at the right time.

All hail the Lizard King.

Posted by VooX from Behind the Bar in the Hasek Club Car on 08/02/10 at 10:01 AM ET

J.J. from Kansas's avatar

When’s the last time you got wide on a D-man and beat them cleanly?

Lots of people quite clearly remember that happening to Sergei Gonchar, #8 on his list, during the Penguins’ series against Montreal.

Hell, by terms of when the last time was that we were watching live hockey, that was only a few weeks ago.

At any rate, according to chapter 3 on Professor Pronger’s Big Book of Fissix, if two objects are moving toward the same spot (like the goal crease) and have to make a turn to get there, the one closer to the center of the radius can be moving slower than the outward one and arrive there at the same time.  A non-hockey comparison to this is a vinyl record.  The entire thing is spinning at 4500 rpm, but a point on the outer edge of the record is moving faster to achieve that same revolution rate than a point closer to the center of the record.

Therefore, defensemen don’t have to move faster or even at the same speed as forwards to keep from getting walked around, they just have to stay to the inside.  Besides, the Brett Lebda corrolary to that is that the faster some defensemen move, the farther they tend to get from their own goal, making them more likely to be caught out of position.

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 08/02/10 at 10:03 AM ET

Guilherme's avatar

As Lidstrom proves every night, you don’t need to be faster than a forward if you are always in the right place at the right time.

Haha, exactly. But if we use Lidstrom as the standard to judge all defenders, the league would shut down for lack of good D-men. (but yes, he is the standard by which I judge all defenders)

Therefore, defensemen don’t have to move faster or even at the same speed as forwards to keep from getting walked around, they just have to stay to the inside.

Again, exactly. But Dater’s too retarted to get this, so he thinks defenders are faster than forwards.

Besides, the Brett Lebda corrolary to that is that the faster some defensemen move, the farther they tend to get from their own goal, making them more likely to be caught out of position.

I thought that was replaced by the Jonathan Ericsson corrolary after <strike>that overtime goal</strike> (not ready yet). And JJ, seeing that the only other person I saw using the term “corrolary” is Bill Simmons, you are a very arrogant man. Keep it up.

Posted by Guilherme from Brazsil on 08/02/10 at 10:10 AM ET

HockeyTownTodd's avatar

In all seriousness, explain to us why Lidstrom is still the best defenseman in the league. Present facts, numbers, etc. Don’t just call everyone else a pussy.
Posted by Claude from Colorado on 08/02/10

+/-
Lidstrom +22
Doughty +20
Chara +19

PIM
Lidstrom 24
Doughty 54
Chara 87

I did NOT call Claude a pussy, that is for you to decide.

Posted by HockeyTownTodd on 08/02/10 at 11:02 AM ET

slim's avatar

I honestly thought Lidstrom retired.

Posted by slim on 08/02/10 at 11:23 AM ET

Tony's avatar

Well, technically, shouldn’t Mike Green be considered one of the top three D-men since he was a finalist for the Norris ?

** Shields himself from debris **

wink

Posted by Tony from Virginia Beach, VA on 08/02/10 at 11:27 AM ET

Nate A's avatar

Just for fun, let’s toss quality of competition into the mix. (according to behindthenet.ca)

Lids - .061
Doughty - .024

Chara actually is near the top with .120. The big man knows how to play, and I wont argue with his Norris a season ago. His biggest issue is his skating, but he’s certainly no Hall Gill or Derrian Hatcher

Duncan Keith comes in at .078 while Seabrook sports an impressive .102. But where’s Mike Green you ask? .004

Now tell me which of these was playing with half of an NLH team for 3/4 of the season. Lids may have slipped a bit from his standards and maybe he wasn’t the best this season, but to crown Doughty (ha! He’s a king, with a crown! get it?!?) the best D-man at this point is just nonsense.

Posted by Nate A from Detroit-ish on 08/02/10 at 11:31 AM ET

Guilherme's avatar

Good one, Nate. But my favorite part was the intro:

Time for another summer top-10 list, and this time it’s my duty to inform the world of the 10 best D-men currently playing in the NHL.

Posted by Guilherme from Brazsil on 08/02/10 at 11:37 AM ET

Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit's avatar

Posted by Tony from Virginia Beach, VA on 08/02/10 at 10:27 AM ET

Thank you.

Lets Go Red Wings!!!!!

Posted by Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit on 08/02/10 at 11:41 AM ET

Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit's avatar

Turco to the Hawks. Main page. Bitches.

Lets Go Red Wings!!!!!

Posted by Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit on 08/02/10 at 11:59 AM ET

FranzensMouthguard's avatar

OMG,. I CANT STOP LAUGHING

Blackhawks confirm they are walking away from Antti’s Niemi’s arbitration award and have signed Marty Turco to 1yr contract

Whats his overall record at the Joe, like 1-38?

Posted by FranzensMouthguard from Chicago, IL on 08/02/10 at 12:00 PM ET

Jett S.'s avatar

i can’t wait for hawks “fans” go back to about forgetting them… seriously, just except that you’ll always be a third rate detroit rip off and move on! ...One and Done

 

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Watching-the-Chicago-Blackhawks-implode/135140209851050

Posted by Jett S. on 08/02/10 at 12:01 PM ET

Osrt's avatar

Thanks for alerting me to the new Top Gear Voox. That was a sweet review.

King Lidas’s reign continues. A step lower from perfect is nearly perfect and well above any of his peers who, by the way, will say the same thing.

Posted by Osrt on 08/02/10 at 12:29 PM ET

stonehands-78's avatar

“To paraphrase the above, part of me is suspicious that Dater is nothing more than a million retarded monkeys hacking away at typewriters, while being slowly suffocated by nitrous oxide, who got themselves a forum on the network that Li’l Gary loves website.”

Voox,
you’ve insulted all of them:

Lids (aka TPH) is The Perfect Human.
(I know cause those are my initials. Period.)

Other tid bits:
- Malik is the source for all things Red Wings with a twist of ... Hemmingway? Great work(!), fun reading, up-to-date on a consistent basis.
- Hollis, we miss you already.
- J.J., I knew it was just a matter of time before the blogging disease took hold. The best treatment: keep blogging, let it out, OK?
- “When’s the last time you got wide on a D-man and beat them cleanly?” 1979, my freshmen year in college.
- And finally, I present ‘lil bro’s #1 and #2 goalies for the ‘10-‘11 NHL season in their quest to defend a cup (hahahahaha):

This never gets old:

(Oh, is it October yet?)

Posted by stonehands-78 from the beginning ... a WingsFan, on 08/02/10 at 01:27 PM ET

Primis's avatar

Why does ANYONE read Dater?

Of course his list is a joke—he’s an idiot and doesn’t know anything.

I won’t knock Chara at #3 because he really is really good now.

The erst though, just….. this is why clown like him and Eklund shouldn’t be allowed to write.

Posted by Primis on 08/02/10 at 01:49 PM ET

Twig in Houston's avatar

They all seem to skate as fast or faster than all the forwards. When’s the last time you got wide on a D-man and beat them cleanly?

mike green.

Posted by Twig in Houston from Houston, TX on 08/02/10 at 01:50 PM ET

ITDeuce's avatar

Holy crap, the Blackhawks just signed Marty Turco.  Must mean Niemi is on his way out.

Posted by ITDeuce from The Sunny High Desert on 08/02/10 at 02:01 PM ET

ITDeuce's avatar

After some more digging it seems that Niemi is now a free agent and that Turco was signed for 1.3 mil per.

Posted by ITDeuce from The Sunny High Desert on 08/02/10 at 02:14 PM ET

rrasco's avatar

Yep, the arbitrator awarded Niemi 2.75 mil and the Hawks are nearly $2 mil over the cap AFTER signing Turco, according to capgeek.  Niemi might have ‘led them to the cup’ but he is hardly analogous to Jimmah carrying us down the home stretch.  Simply not worth it…especially in the midst of the dismantling of a cup-winning-team. Turco, well, he just doesn’t know when to stop playing the puck.

...and I know nobody is thinking about Willa, but we should know something sometime next week….and Kovi’s first episode, hopefully last, should be over by next week as well.

Seriously, is it October yet?  Remember to set your DVR to NHL Network Wed and Thu as the 97 and 98 game 4s will be broadcast for ‘Raising the Cup’.

Posted by rrasco from TEXAS on 08/02/10 at 03:53 PM ET

GrahamWIIM's avatar

This is the way the list should have looked:

1. Nicklas Lidstrom

2-100. Everyone else

In all seriousness, Dater should have asked this question: if you had to win the Cup next year, which defenseman would you take right now to lead your defense into the playoffs? It sure isn’t Doughty, and it’s not Keith or Chara. And this isn’t a “build the team for the future” question either.

Also, whether you’re protecting a 1-goal lead or down a goal needing 1 to tie, who would you want out there? TPH is the first name that easily comes to mind for both situations. Doughty’s defense is suspect, and Keith/Chara are both not as good offensively (even though Keith had better numbers last year).

Pussy

Posted by GrahamWIIM from Chicago via Toronto on 08/02/10 at 05:10 PM ET

KelseyAnn's avatar

Posted by Amerinadian from Chicago on 08/02/10 at 04:10 PM ET

Beautiful.

And about the Turco signing, this will have me laughing hard at my stomach for a long time. The Chicago implosion just could not get any better.

Posted by KelseyAnn from we have an NHL team here?, Arizona on 08/02/10 at 05:19 PM ET

stonehands-78's avatar

After some more digging it seems that Niemi is now a free agent and that Turco was signed for 1.3 mil per.

Posted by ITDeuce from It’s Franzen time! on 08/02/10 at 01:14 PM ET

“digging” ?

(Is it October yet?)

Posted by stonehands-78 from the beginning ... a WingsFan, on 08/02/10 at 05:23 PM ET

GrahamWIIM's avatar

There are actually fans here who think the Turco signing is a good one for Little Brother. Apparently they have not figured out what his record is at the Joe.

Posted by GrahamWIIM from Chicago via Toronto on 08/02/10 at 05:53 PM ET

Claude from Colorado's avatar

@HockeyTownTodd

My applause to you for actually trying to back up your argument with some data.

@Voox, Funny how you have no problem challenging the writing of Dater. But when I challenge your own scribblings, you react so poorly. It would be nice if you could take it as well as well as you gave it.

@J.J. From Kansas,

“Wings fans know Lidstrom is the best because we’ve seen Lidstrom throughout all the years.  Then, we see other guys for one game and they always seem to make at least one mistake that when made by Lidstrom would make us all simultaneously lament on Nick’s humanness.”

So… you see Lidstrom for 82 games (give or take) and you see, by your own admission, other defensemen ” for one game.” And that’s an accurate way of rating one over the other?

Posted by Claude from Colorado on 08/02/10 at 06:49 PM ET

Jeremy from Northport's avatar

Great article Vux,

Hey do you think the Detroit Red Wings should sign Anny Niemie and dump Jimma Howard? That would be a great move IMHO. Jimma kinda sux. Ozzie kinda sux. Everybody kinda sux.

Speaking of which…  Did you study journalism?

I’m not sure Nick Lidstrom is the best D man in the league anymore. You seem certain.

However you are not giving an unbiased opinion. Just your homer opinion.

And that is really kinda boring.

REALLY. KINDA. BORING.

Do you still live in your mom’s basement?

I’ll c you 19 female dogs later.

Love,
Jeremy

Posted by Jeremy from Northport on 08/02/10 at 06:56 PM ET

pgoody's avatar

Posted by Claude from Colorado on 08/02/10 at 12:00 AM ET

Can people from other fanbases not respond to anything written for a Wings blog?


Lidstrom is the best defenseman in the universe…

pussy…

Posted by pgoody on 08/02/10 at 07:00 PM ET

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