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It’s Early December So Let’s Talk Possible Draft Picks

from Ted Kulfan of the Detroit News,

 ...here are my top 10 prospects, as things currently stand, for the 2020 NHL Draft.

1. Alexis Lafreniere, left wing, 6-foot-1, 192 pounds (Rimouski, Quebec junior league): Lafreniere generally has been regarded as the best player in this draft class for several years. He’s an elite stickhandler who can make the hockey highlights with his wizardy with the puck. Scouts like his competitive edge, but there are some reservations about Lafreniere’s skating and speed.

“Lafreniere can finish the plays or he can make the plays,” said Craig Button, TSN director of scouting, last month. “He’s the best player at this point, but there are five or six guys who could force their way into the discussion.”

2. Quinton Byfield, center, 6-foot-4, 214 pounds (Sudbury, OHL): Some scouts, in the early projections, are comparing Byfield to a young Evgeni Malkin. Byfield is a towering, big center who has elite skill and is an outstanding skater for his size. This type of center, with his skills, could anchor an organization for a decade.

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from Arthur J. Regner of DetroitRedWings.com,

Nothing is really official in the NHL until it actually happens, especially when it comes to injured players returning to the lineup.

So even though alternate captain Justin Abdelkader and defenseman Trevor Daley have been practicing with the Red Wings, whether they’re playing Tuesday night in Winnipeg remains an open question.

Daley, who has been sidelined with a lower-body injury since Nov. 4, has missed Detroit’s last 16 games. He’s been cleared to play by team doctors, but he was a little cautious about when he’ll see his first action in over a month.

“I think tomorrow (Tuesday) after the morning skate I’ll get a good feel and see how I feel after a good skate today and go from there,” Daley told reporters after Monday’s practice at the BELFOR Training Center. “I’ve been in this situation before where I’ve missed a period of time. That’s frustrating. But I’m excited just to get back and help out and take it one shift at a time and see how it goes.”

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Posted by Paul from Motown Area on 12/09/19 at 06:42 PM ET

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Even if the Wings finish dead last, the odds of them getting a top-two pick are just about nil based on the last three drafts where they’ve dropped slots each time. However, if Jobu decides to get off his dead ass and help out, I’d want Byfield.

He just turned 17 in August and he’s 6’4” and 214lbs. And since he’s a center, it would make it easier to trade AA at some point and still have Larkin, Ras, and Glendenning at center two or three years from now.

As for Askarov, he’d probably be my next pick if Lafreniere and Byfield are gone when the Wings pick. I’m not sure Larsson is ever going to make it in the NHL, although he’s probably no worse than Bernier or Howard at this point.

My fantasy would be to get Byfield next spring and then have Stevie Y work some magic to pry Spencer Knight away from Florida where Bobrovsky is signed through 2025-2026 at $10M per year. Maybe AA and a prospect or pick could get it done.

Posted by OlderThanChelios from Grand Rapids, MI on 12/09/19 at 06:55 PM ET

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I mentioned this earlier today but more details here…

from Dave McCarthy at NHL.com,

Joseph Veleno was made available by the Detroit Red Wings on Monday to play for Canada at the 2020 IIHF World Junior Championship in the Czech Republic, but he will not join the team until Dec. 18 or 19.

Canada’s selection camp runs Dec. 9-12.

Veleno, who was selected by the Red Wings in the first round (No. 30) of the 2018 NHL Draft, will play four more games with Grand Rapids of the American Hockey League, where he has nine points (three goals, six assists) in 25 games.

“You’d like your guys to be here, but it’s not a priority,” Canada head scout Brad McEwen said. “Detroit was gracious enough to allow him to play, and we’re thankful for that. He’s going to get four games out on the west coast with Grand Rapids, which will only make him a better player when he gets here in Europe on the 18th or 19th.”

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Posted by Paul from Motown Area on 12/09/19 at 07:12 PM ET

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Even if the Wings finish dead last, the odds of them getting a top-two pick are just about nil based on the last three drafts where they’ve dropped slots each time.

You can count on the Garden Gnome shafting the Red Wings. Again. angry

Posted by bigfrog on 12/09/19 at 09:16 PM ET

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So if the Wings finish last, how far can they drop?  I have seen LaFreniere play, with Veleno, actually, He was easy to spot as he made all the players on the ice a lot better. Add Zadina and Veleno at centre, sounds good.  Zadina seems to need a Larkin type feeding him.

I guess I am shying away from a BIG Ras type.  Ras still has time to get the NHL game under his belt.Veleno has no obvious problems, hope he can move into a Top 6 Center in a few years.  Will see how fits with the Can team. This might be his 3rd selection but any Hunter worries me

Posted by WingedRider from Saskatoon, SK on 12/09/19 at 11:25 PM ET

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So if the Wings finish last, how far can they drop?
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Posted by WingedRider from Saskatoon, SK on 12/09/19 at 11:25 PM ET

It’s a lottery for the first 3 positions in the draft. If the Wings finish last they would be guaranteed to pick no worse than 4th. They would also have the best odds to get anyone of the 3 lottery positions.

You can simulate the draft here: Tankathon—> exactly what the Wings should be doing

Posted by d ca on 12/10/19 at 12:16 AM ET

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Even if the Wings finish dead last, the odds of them getting a top-two pick are just about nil

It’s 35%.

And since he’s a center, it would make it easier to trade AA

AA’s not a center.

I’m not sure Larsson is ever going to make it in the NHL, although he’s probably no worse than Bernier or Howard at this point.

Yes, he is.

Posted by hockeyfreak13 from Grand Rapids on 12/10/19 at 06:43 AM ET

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AA is getting traded, irrespective of what the wings do on the draft board, they’re not committing long term dollars to him, and to stay on THIS team he’s gonna want long term dollars.  The only question now is if his play this year has wiped out any interest in him, that’s really the only thing that might keep him in a Wings jersey.  Should’ve traded him last year.

Posted by MurrayChadwick from YzerGod's pixie dust fueled bandwagon on 12/10/19 at 07:45 AM ET

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  Even if the Wings finish dead last, the odds of them getting a top-two pick are just about nil

It’s 35%.

Posted by hockeyfreak13 from Grand Rapids

You’re talking statistics. I’m referring to the reality of what’s happened to the Wings for the last three years.

  And since he’s a center, it would make it easier to trade AA

AA’s not a center.

Well, that’s what he was drafted as in 2012 and he finished the year playing that position last year as well as playing it some this year. Whether or not he’s a good center is another story.

  I’m not sure Larsson is ever going to make it in the NHL, although he’s probably no worse than Bernier or Howard at this point.

Yes, he is.

So, yes he is going to make it in the NHL, or yes he is worse than Howard or Bernier?

Posted by OlderThanChelios from Grand Rapids, MI on 12/10/19 at 12:09 PM ET

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You’re talking statistics. I’m referring to the reality of what’s happened to the Wings for the last three years.

That’s dumb.

playing that position last year as well as playing it some this year.

He hasn’t played center at all this year. It’s over. He’s not a center.

So, yes he is going to make it in the NHL, or yes he is worse than Howard or Bernier?

Take a guess.

Posted by hockeyfreak13 from Grand Rapids on 12/10/19 at 12:23 PM ET

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Posted by hockeyfreak13 from Grand Rapids

Oh, okay. I know better than to discuss something with someone who knows the one and true answer to everything. Thanks for enlightening me.  tongue laugh

Posted by OlderThanChelios from Grand Rapids, MI on 12/10/19 at 03:15 PM ET

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I remember how mad everyone was last draft about the Wings lottery. But in the end it didn’t make much difference tbh.
The reason we wanted a better spot ultimately was Bowen Byram. But Seider already proved to be a very fine pick by what he showed so far in camp and Grand Rapids. The difference between them was not really what it was hyped to be.
At least it’s what it looks so far.

That said it would be nice to draft a top-2 for a change.

Posted by Dseven on 12/10/19 at 11:37 PM ET

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Statistics has its own logic and limitations.

Some teams like Columbus have essentially never moved
up in a draft lottery and have virtually always fallen.

I’m sure the front office personnel over about 20 years
were well aware of what the odds were, and, how statistically
they “should” have evened out over that many iterations of lotteries.

It didn’t do damn thing for them in practice.

Or a team can have their best lottery luck in the worst years to draft.

Obviously you control the variables you can control.
And no, lottery “wins” even in more favorable draft years are not
themselves enough to put it all together.

But bad luck is real and it doesn’t hurt any less.

Posted by lefty.30 on 12/10/19 at 11:44 PM ET

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I’m not sure when we should have traded AA.

Right after he broke 30 goals and showed signs that playing
center could push him to add more playmaking and a better two-way game?

Should we trade him now? Or risk his - ballooning to -50 while
he lacks the skill and overall team context to produce as he’s proven
recently he’s eminently capable of doing?

I’m saying: pay him whatever he wants on whatever term
and think nothing of the future contracts we will need the cap space
for, assuming we actually can draft and develop more than our first line and Hronek.

The fact *everyone* had Hirose all but sharpied in as the other
go-to offensive player on the second line, when he had all of like ten meaningless
late season games of NHL or any pro experience and was coming from college at 160 lbs, says a lot about how much talent AA or anyone beyond the MLB line has had to work with. Fabbri helps for sure! But he’s been most productive on the PP.
if AA is done playing center, then he could use one. We’ve been using Filppula up to 20 mins a game, for lack of anyone else right now who comes close.

 

Posted by lefty.30 on 12/10/19 at 11:54 PM ET

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I’m *not* saying pay him….

Posted by lefty.30 on 12/10/19 at 11:56 PM ET

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IMO, AA could be a better player with another coach behind the bench.

But then again, he has had problems with other coaches.

So who knows.

Posted by Paul from Motown Area on 12/10/19 at 11:57 PM ET

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