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GDT - Game #57:  Red Wings host Flyers (7:30)

The Red Wings (37-17-2) will be looking to add one more record to the annals of the greatest franchise in hockey tonight, when they host the Flyers (31-17-7) in quest for 20 consecutive home wins. It won’t be easy, the Flyers are road warriors 18-8-2 (3rd) and have posted a sparkling 9-2-2 mark against Western Conference opponents this year. However, the Flyers did host a matinee yesterday at home, dropping a 5-2 decision to Atlantic and Eastern leader NYR.

The Emperor noted this comment about the Wings march to the record book:  “The purists have already spoken up. They say that even if the Detroit Red Wings beat the Philadelphia Flyers on Sunday night at Joe Louis Arena for their 20th straight victory on home ice – tying the NHL record shared by the 1929-30 Boston Bruins and 1975-76 Flyers – it should come with an asterisk.”  Haters, jealous haters.  I’m not a fan of the shootout either, but doesn’t the opponent have just as much as a chance to win as well.  Also, did the Bruins or the Flyers play in a salary cap/parity league? 

To the game at hand, the Flyers are 1-3-1 in their last five.  Their #1 goalie Ilya Bryzgalov’s status is unknown because of an illness. The Wings may face Sergei Bobrovsky in net today, Bobrovsky has allowed 14 goals over his last three games.  Oh, and PHI’s PK gave up 3 goals yesterday, maybe, just maybe the Wing’s PP won’t look so damn inept.

LGRW.

Central Division Standings:

GP W L OTL PTS ROW
1 DET 56 37 17 2 76 30
2 STL 54 33 14 7 73 31
3 NSH 56 32 18 6 70 29
4 CHI 56 29 20 7 65 25
5 CBJ 55 16 33 6 38 13

Team Records:

DET:  56 GP,  37-17-2, 76 pts, (1 in Conf, 1 in Central), 178 GF, 132 GA, Last 10 7-2-1, WON 2

PHI:  55 GP,  31-17-7,  69 pts, (4 in Conf, 2 in Atlantic), 179 GF, 165 GA, Last 10 4-3-3, LOST 1

Home/Away Record:

DET home:  22-2-1 (2nd)
PHI road:  18-8-2 (3rd)

Stats (rank):

DET:  .679 point% (2), 3.05 G/G (4), 2.34 GA/G (6), 1.54 5-5 F/A (1), 17.2 PP% (16), 80.9 PK% (21), 32.9 S/G (4), 27.0 SA/G (3),  51.6 FO% (7).

PHI:  .627 point% (7), 3.24 G/G (2), 2.91 GA/G (23), 1.07 5-5 F/A (9), 19.7 PP% (5), 81.8 PK% (16), 32.6 S/G (5), 28.9 SA/G (8), 48.5% (25).

Goal Differential/Game:

DET = +0.71
PHI =  +0.33

Player Stats:
DET Skaters:
GP,  G, A, PTS,  +/-,  ATOI
C Pavel Datsyuk 55 14 41 55 16 19:21 #2 in Assists
C Johan Franzen 56 21 23 44 24 17:41
C Valtteri Filppula 55 16 26 42 14 17:37
L Henrik Zetterberg 56 10 30 40 6 19:33
C Jiri Hudler 55 17 17 34 5 15:02
D Nicklas Lidstrom 55 10 18 28 25 23:58 #5 in +/-
R Todd Bertuzzi 49 12 15 27 21 15:37
R Danny Cleary 55 11 16 27 12 16:12
D Ian White 52 6 20 26 28 23:33 #2 in +/-
D Niklas Kronwall 56 11 12 23 -2 22:33
L Drew Miller 54 11 9 20 11 12:15
L Tomas Holmstrom 48 8 10 18 -5 11:56
C Darren Helm 52 5 12 17 4 14:19
L Justin Abdelkader 56 6 10 16 5 11:51
D Brad Stuart 55 4 8 12 14 20:50
D Jakub Kindl 42 1 9 10 5 13:48
D Jonathan Ericsson 56 1 8 9 16 16:50
C Cory Emmerton 45 6 3 9 3 7:58
R Chris Conner 7 1 2 3 2 10:52
D Mike Commodore 17 0 2 2 3 11:29
L Jan Mursak 4 0 2 2 2 7:57
D Brendan Smith 3 0 2 2 -1 14:54
R Patrick Eaves 10 0 1 1 0 11:02
L Fabian Brunnstrom 5 0 1 1 -2 9:03
C Gustav Nyquist 5 0 1 1 1 7:53
C Joakim Andersson 4 0 0 0 1 6:45

DET Goalies:
Player GPI W L OT GAA PCT
Ty Conklin 11, 3-5-0,  3.40,  0.878
Jimmy Howard 44,  32-11-1, 2.03,  0.924 #1 in Wins,  #2 in Shutouts, #5 in GAA
Joey MacDonald 4,  2-1-1,  1.57,  0.935

PHI Skaters:
GP,  G, A, PTS,  +/-,  ATOI
R Claude Giroux 51 22 40 62 -2 21:50 #2 in Points, #4 in Assists
L Scott Hartnell 55 26 23 49 16 17:48
R Jaromir Jagr 47 13 26 39 8 16:24
R Wayne Simmonds 55 18 16 34 -2 16:02
D Kimmo Timonen 55 2 30 32 11 21:41
R Matt Read 52 16 16 32 10 17:30
C Danny Briere 46 13 18 31 2 18:12
R Jakub Voracek 55 9 22 31 3 16:22
D Matt Carle 55 4 24 28 0 23:02
C Maxime Talbot 55 13 11 24 3 15:59
L James van Riemsdyk 37 11 11 22 -1 15:10
D Andrej Meszaros 55 6 14 20 3 20:36
C Sean Couturier 51 10 10 20 11 13:25
D Braydon Coburn 54 2 11 13 0 21:45
D Chris Pronger 13 1 11 12 1 22:28
C Brayden Schenn 27 6 3 9 -3 13:52
C Zac Rinaldo 42 1 6 7 -5 6:36
L Harry Zolnierczyk 36 3 2 5 -12 7:42
D Marc-Andre Bourdon 36 2 2 4 1 15:48
D Andreas Lilja 32 0 3 3 2 12:55
D Erik Gustafsson 16 0 2 2 8 15:57
L Jody Shelley 21 0 1 1 -6 5:22
L Tom Sestito 12 0 1 1 -3 7:13
L Eric Wellwood 1 0 1 1 3 15:42
D Matt Walker 4 0 0 0 -2 10:57
C Ben Holmstrom 5 0 0 0 0 6:43

PHI Goalies:
Player GPI W L OT GAA PCT
Sergei Bobrovsky 22,  12-6-1,  2.84,  0.905
Ilya Bryzgalov 38,  19-11-6,  2.78,  0.900

TSN - HOT and NOT:

DET: Hot:
Brad Stuart (D) 3 pts in last 4 GP
Justin Abdelkader (C/W) 3 pts in last 2 GP
Henrik Zetterberg (C/LW) 5 pts in last 4 GP
Drew Miller (LW/RW) 2 pts in last 2 GP
Johan Franzen (LW/RW) 3 pts in last 4 GP
Joey MacDonald (G) 2-0-0, 1.44, .936 in last 2 GPI

DET: Not Hot:
Nicklas Lidstrom (D) 0 pts in last 6 GP
Ian White (D) 2 pts in last 9 GP
Tomas Holmstrom (RW/LW) 0 pts in last 9 GP
Jiri Hudler (RW/LW) 0 pts in last 4 GP
Valtteri Filppula (LW/C) 0 pts in last 3 GP
Todd Bertuzzi (RW/LW) 0 pts in last 3 GP
Pavel Datsyuk (C/LW) 2 pts in last 7 GP
Ty Conklin (G) 0-0-0, 6.00, .727 in last 2 GPI

PHI: Hot:
Andrej Meszaros (D) 2 pts in last 2 GP
Wayne Simmonds (RW) 3 pts in last 2 GP
Scott Hartnell (LW) 3 pts in last 2 GP
Claude Giroux (C/RW) 12 pts in last 10 GP

PHI: Not Hot:
Kimmo Timonen (D) 0 pts in last 5 GP
Matt Carle (D) 0 pts in last 4 GP
Matt Read (W/C) 0 pts in last 5 GP
Jakub Voracek (RW/LW) 0 pts in last 3 GP
Jaromir Jagr (RW) 1 pts in last 4 GP
Sergei Bobrovsky (G) 1-2-0, 5.68, .816 in last 3 GPI

Injury Report:

DET:
Dan Cleary (RW/LW) Knee injury (Day to day)
Patrick Eaves (RW) Jaw injury (Injured reserve)
Jimmy Howard (G) Finger injury (Day to day)

PHI:
Ian Laperriere (RW) Concussion (Injured reserve)
Chris Pronger (D) Concussion (Injured reserve)
Blair Betts (C) Lower body injury (Injured reserve)
Ilya Bryzgalov (G) Flu (Day to day)
James van Riemsdyk (LW) Concussion (Injured reserve)

Jeff Sagarin NHL Ratings, USAToday

SATURDAY FEBRUARY 11

HOME ADVANTAGE=  0.58   RATING   W   L SCHEDL(RANK) VS top 10 | VS top 16

1 Detroit Red Wings     =  4.83   37 19   4.02(  10)  9   7 |  16 11
9 Philadelphia Flyers   =  4.23   31 24   3.99(  16)  7   9 |  15 14
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Wings Saturday practice lines:

Franzen-Datsyuk-Bertuzzi
Filppula-Zetterberg-Hudler
Miller-Helm-Abdelkader
Holmstrom-Emmerton-Mursak

Lidstrom-White
Kronwall-Stuart
Ericsson-Kindl/Commodore

MacDonald (starting)

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We can only hope the PP looks like it belongs to an actual NHL team instead of peewee.

Posted by teldar on 02/12/12 at 12:57 PM ET

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Didn’t realize the GDT was already up (thanks, Jeff), and I don’t want my diarrhea of the fingers to go unnoticed, so here it is again.  You’re welcome.

Tomas Holmstrom is the 48th player to reach 1000 games played with one club, and the sixth with Detroit.

The Red Wings are the only franchise to have six different players reach the milestone.

Only five players have ever played in 1500 games with one club; four of those played for Detroit (Howe, Lidstrom, Delvecchio, and Yzerman.  The other is Ray Bourque of the Bruins).  Lidstrom, Delvecchio, and Yzerman have never played for any other franchise.

Martin Brodeur is the only goalie to play in over 1000 games with one club.

Breakdown by club of number of players with more than 1000 games played with the franchise:
Detroit, six
Maple Leafs and Canadiens, five each
Bruins and Blackhawks, four
Devils and Rangers, three
Sabres, Kings, Islanders, Senators, and Coyotes/1979 Jets, two
Flames, Hurricanes/Whalers, Avalanche/Nordiques, Stars, Oilers, Flyers, Sharks, Canucks, one

By their own count, the Avalanche would not put themselves on the list as they refuse to recognize their Canadian ancestry.

Notable zeros: Pittsburgh Penguins, St. Louis Blues

I have seen some articles that say Holmstrom is the 272nd player to play in 1000 NHL games, and the 47th to do it with one club.  Both these numbers are wrong because they don’t count goalies.  274 players have reached 1000 NHL games, 48 with one club.

When Nicklas Lidstrom plays in tonight’s game, he will set a new single franchise record of games played at 1,550 (career spent with one club).  That would be an all time record on any other franchise, in most cases by a lot, but not Detroit.  He’s still a distant second on the Red Wings for most games played.

Posted by monkey from Finland on 02/12/12 at 01:08 PM ET

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Mornin’ Bitches.

The record does not matter one way or the other. It is the 2 points.  Fuching Mule better show up tonite. I know Scotty would have him riding the pine.

And put Homer back on the Power Play where he belongs.

Thanks OAkie.

Bitches.

Lets Go Red Wings!!!!!

Posted by Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit on 02/12/12 at 01:12 PM ET

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Thanks Okie for setting the stage and perspective again.

For the season, the only difference in the records of the teams is the several wins in skills competition that Detroit has. As we have noted in the past when our record there was sucky, those endings disappear in the playoffs.

Of more significance is the Flyers recent trouble with defense and goaltending.  We make that “ongoing” problem by playing hard up front and everyone doing their best Abdelkader and Miller impersonations by going right at the net at great risk to personal health and well being. Fearless.

Posted by RWBill from cruising Brush Street with creepy Rob Lowe. on 02/12/12 at 01:40 PM ET

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Looking at the “Not Hot” list it’s kind of heartening to realize the team is still rolling along at the clip they are.  I’m one of the first to criticize this team when they are not playing well but then I look at the standings and shake my head realizing that all teams in the NHL have their problems.  I guess what I’m trying to say is, let’s step back, look at the big picture and enjoy this team for what it is… the best damn franchise in all of sports.

And thanks Oakie for all you do.  It’s a great day for hockey…. L.G.R.W.

Posted by calquake on 02/12/12 at 02:12 PM ET

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Like Kate said, it’s about the 2 points. The rules are the same for all 79 teams, love ‘em or hate ‘em.

That said, there is no way in south hell that you will EVER convince me that a home winning streak that was substantially aided by a skills competition is in the same zip code with a winning streak that took place with full teams on the ice, when the winning goal was scored.

Apples and oranges, my fake friends, apples and oranges. And asterisks.

Posted by dougie on 02/12/12 at 02:49 PM ET

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There is probably room for the argument that it is TOUGHER to get a home streak these days. An asterisk???!!! Maybe for the exception that nobody elsse is doing it in these “easy” days of wins.

Posted by Rdwings28 on 02/12/12 at 03:23 PM ET

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Speculation from Frank Seravalli, Philly Daily News, that Breezy may be in net tonight for the Flyers; he did note, however, that the Flyers did not have a morning skate today.

Posted by Jeff OKWingnut from Quest for 12 on 02/12/12 at 03:56 PM ET

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Lilja will score a hat trick tonight tongue laugh

Wings 16th ranked PP and 21st ranked PK could use a lot of improving. New assistant coaching staff and same special team troubles this season.

If Commie plays I guess I should expect him to get beaten up by Rinaldo, Shelley or Sestito. That guy needs to win a fight occasionally in order to spark his team.

Posted by Slumpy from Detroit on 02/12/12 at 04:02 PM ET

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G’morning, Jeff.  A cup of molten lava Java, a bowl of Munchkins, and your GDT.  An excellent start to the day.  Always.

To the game at hand, the Flyers are 1-3-1 in their last five.

Flyers, unlike the free-falling Cawks, don’t let their losing ways go too long.  They’re gonna be a mean bunch.

Referees:
Steve Kozari (#40)
Dennis LaRue (#14)  <=======

Linesmen:
Michel Cormier (#76)
Vaughan Rody (#73)

Sonuva…

Posted by SYF from the team that re-signed KFQ and DFC by KFH on 02/12/12 at 04:20 PM ET

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monkey, isn’t Gordie Howe’s 1,687 tops with the Wings?

Posted by SYF from the team that re-signed KFQ and DFC by KFH on 02/12/12 at 04:24 PM ET

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Posted by SYF from a “Bron-Y-Aur Stomp” on 02/12/12 at 01:24 PM ET

Howe played for more than one team.

Posted by Garth on 02/12/12 at 04:33 PM ET

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Here’s to TPH breaking Gordie’s record.
Thanx as always for the GDT Okie.

Posted by cigar_nurse from Greenville South Cakalakee on 02/12/12 at 04:44 PM ET

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monkey, isn’t Gordie Howe’s 1,687 tops with the Wings?

Yes.  Like Garth said, Lidstrom’s record is only among players who only ever played for one franchise.

That said, there is no way in south hell that you will EVER convince me that a home winning streak that was substantially aided by a skills competition is in the same zip code with a winning streak that took place with full teams on the ice, when the winning goal was scored.

Apples and oranges, my fake friends, apples and oranges. And asterisks.

I agree.  What the Red Wings have is a 19 game home unbeaten streak.  I don’t think the accomplishment isn’t awesome, it just isn’t the same thing.

Posted by monkey from Finland on 02/12/12 at 05:02 PM ET

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Thanks, Okie!

Let’s just get the 2 points.  Pretty or ugly, top lines or grinders.  I don’t care.

LET’S JUST WIN!

LET’S GO RED WINGS !!!!!

Posted by MsRedWinger from Flori-duh on 02/12/12 at 06:04 PM ET

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Ray Bourque of the Bruins Colorado Avalanches

Posted by monkey from here to Timbuktu on 02/12/12 at 10:08 AM ET

Fixed!

Posted by Sullyosis from A hateful lair in Post Apocalyptic US (or Arizona) on 02/12/12 at 07:41 PM ET

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That said, there is no way in south hell that you will EVER convince me that a home winning streak that was substantially aided by a skills competition is in the same zip code with a winning streak that took place with full teams on the ice, when the winning goal was scored.

Apples and oranges, my fake friends, apples and oranges. And asterisks.

Posted by dougie on 02/12/12 at 11:49 AM ET

There is the small matter of dilution of talent concentration that IMO counteracts the shootout factor.

IMHO, the 29-30 Bruins isn’t even a legit record.  How many teams were they playing against, again?  And how many rules were very, very different?

The 75-76 Flyers one is legit.  However… that was a what, 18-team league in a less-concentrated (and just plain shorter) schedule?  It’s a 30-team league now, with a much more concentrated schedule in order to fit in 82 games, and with guys headhuniting and all that stupid crap.

You could make the argument it’s MORE impressive now I guess, but I’ll settle for saying it’s comparable and equal at least.

I don’t care how they get it, I want to 2 points tonight.

Ericsson delenda est.

Posted by Primis on 02/12/12 at 07:53 PM ET

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Posted by Primis on 02/12/12 at 04:53 PM ET

I tend to agree with you on the winning streak Primis.  Anyway, who cares what the purists say.  Its yet another thing for the other twenty-nine teams to look upon and feel inferior.  I hope they scoff at it, because I hate them.

Posted by bezukov from the kids are alright. on 02/12/12 at 08:50 PM ET

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Oh Crap the game is on Outdoor Living Channel, where they’ve stank up Royal lately.  Maybe if I channel a bootleg stream of FSD that will neuter the effect.

Posted by RWBill from cruising Brush Street with creepy Rob Lowe. on 02/12/12 at 09:05 PM ET

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if it were easier to get a 20 game win streak now than it was back then, why hasn’t it been done SINCE THEN?

if the shootouts are such a big part of it, then why hasn’t any other team done it since the shootouts started?

Posted by PaulinMiamiBeach on 02/12/12 at 09:25 PM ET

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I tend to agree with you on the winning streak Primis.  Anyway, who cares what the purists say.  Its yet another thing for the other twenty-nine teams to look upon and feel inferior.  I hope they scoff at it, because I hate them.

I can’t believe I didn’t see this before.  *#$%@& you, Dougie, I’m with these guys. 

HAHA 19 straight home wins bitches!  Everyone else sucks! Red Wings rule!

Posted by monkey from Finland on 02/12/12 at 09:29 PM ET

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is anyone seeing my new avatar?  i don’t see it.

Posted by PaulinMiamiBeach on 02/12/12 at 09:29 PM ET

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hmm must be a Chrome cache issue…I see it in IE.

Posted by PaulinMiamiBeach on 02/12/12 at 09:30 PM ET

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  Ray Bourque of the Bruins Colorado Avalanches

  Posted by monkey from here to Timbuktu on 02/12/12 at 10:08 AM ET

Fixed!

Only if you’re an Avalanche fan.  He didn’t play those games in Denver.

Posted by monkey from Finland on 02/12/12 at 09:34 PM ET

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is anyone seeing my new avatar?  i don’t see it.

It comes and goes.

Posted by monkey from Finland on 02/12/12 at 09:35 PM ET

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Paul, I love it

I’m with you Primis and Paul..


Some people will say and do anything to try to tarnish the brilliance of which Detroits accomplishments shine.

Posted by HockeytownOverhaul on 02/12/12 at 10:00 PM ET

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