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GDT - Game #42:  Red Wings at Islanders (7:00)

DET (26-14-1) have an opportunity to win consecutive road contests, for the first time in forever, tonight at the NYI (14-19-6).  All of the numbers suggest the Wings should prevail against the L’Eastern Conference cellar dwellers.  The Islanders cannot score, 2.26 G/G (28), cannot keep the puck out of their own net, 3.15 GA/G (25), and are the league worst team at even strength, 0.69 5-5 F/A (30).  However, they do have a good PP at19.8 PP% (5), that could bite the Wings inept PK (81.1 PK% (23)).  Everything says DET should win tonight, eh Ackbar?

At the halfway mark, Holland is happy with the team:  “All in all, after 41 games, if you’d have told me coming out of training camp this is where we’d be, we’d be pretty happy.  We’ve positioned ourselves to compete for the division and compete for the top seed in the Western Conference.”  He added that he might make a trade deadline move (the Wings have over $5 million in cap space):  “Hopefully, we continue to win and stay up there, and we can look if there’s an opportunity to make a move to make us a little deeper.”

LGRW.

Central Division Standings:

GP W L OTL PTS GOAL DIFF
1 DET 41 26 14 1 53 +40
2 STL 41 24 12 5 53 +18
3 CHI 42 24 13 5 53 +11
4 NSH 41 22 15 4 48 -3
5 CBJ 41 11 25 5 27 -38

Team Records:

DET:  41 GP,  26-14-1, 53 pts, (2 in Conf, 1 in Central), 134 GF, 94 GA, Last 10 6-4-0, WON 1

NYI:  39 GP,  14-19-6,  34 pts, (15 in Conf, 5 in Atlantic), 91 GF, 125 GA, Last 10 5-5-0,  LOST 2

Home/Away Record:

DET away: 11-12-0 (9)
NYI home:  8-9-3 (27)

Goal Differential/Game:

DET = +0.95
NYI =  -0.89


Stats (rank):

DET:  .646 point% (5), 3.24 G/G (3), 2.29 GA/G (5), 1.70 5-5 F/A (2), 19.7 PP% (6), 81.1 PK% (23), 33.1 S/G (3), 27.3 SA/G (3),  50.9 FO% (10).

NYI:  .436 point% (26), 2.26 G/G (28), 3.15 GA/G (25),  0.69 5-5 F/A (30), 19.8 PP% (5), 83.1 PK% (12), 29.6 S/G (17), 30.3 SA/G (15), 48.3% (25).

JUST FOR REFERENCE

This season, the Wings at the Quarter-Pole (before game #21):

DET:  .625 point% (9), 2.90 G/G (10), 2.30 GA/G (6), 1.42 5-5 F/A (4), 19.3 PP% (9), 79.2 PK% (22), 35.0 S/G (1), 26.7 SA/G (2),  50.6 FO% (13).

Last season at the mid-way point:

DET:  .695 point% (2), 3.46 G/G (2), 2.83 GA/G (17),  1.19 F/A (5), 22.5 PP% (4), 81.7 PK% (15), 33.2 S/G (3), 29.7 SA/G (13),  52.3 FO% (5).


Player Stats:
DET Skaters:
GP,  G, A, PTS,  +/-,  ATOI
C Pavel Datsyuk 41 13 30 43 16 18:59   #3 in Assists
C Johan Franzen 41 16 20 36 23 17:21
C Valtteri Filppula 40 14 21 35 11 17:04
L Henrik Zetterberg 41 8 24 32 5 19:21
C Jiri Hudler 40 12 15 27 4 14:30
D Nicklas Lidstrom 41 8 15 23 18 23:49
D Ian White 37 5 15 20 24 23:08
R Danny Cleary 41 10 9 19 9 16:27
D Niklas Kronwall 41 9 10 19 0 22:17
R Todd Bertuzzi 35 6 12 18 17 15:11
L Tomas Holmstrom 34 6 9 15 0 12:19
L Drew Miller 39 7 7 14 11 11:36
C Darren Helm 37 4 8 12 4 14:19
L Justin Abdelkader 41 4 6 10 3 12:25
D Brad Stuart 41 4 5 9 11 20:32
D Jonathan Ericsson 41 1 7 8 15 16:29
D Jakub Kindl 32 1 7 8 8 13:42
C Cory Emmerton 31 4 3 7 6 8:20
R Chris Conner 7 1 2 3 2 10:52
D Brendan Smith 3 0 2 2 -1 14:54
D Mike Commodore 10 0 1 1 4 11:46
R Patrick Eaves 10 0 1 1 0 11:02
L Fabian Brunnstrom 5 0 1 1 -2 9:03
C Gustav Nyquist 5 0 1 1 1 7:53
C Joakim Andersson 4 0 0 0 1 6:45

DET Goalies:
Player GPI W L OT GAA PCT
Ty Conklin 7, 2-4-0,  3.01,  0.897
Jimmy Howard 35,  24-10-1, 2.05,  0.924 #1 in Wins,  #3 in Shutouts

NYI Skaters:
GP,  G, A, PTS,  +/-,  ATOI
C John Tavares 39 13 23 36 -9 19:42
R PA Parenteau 39 7 26 33 -8 18:18
L Matt Moulson 39 18 15 33 2 18:22
C Frans Nielsen 39 7 13 20 -5 17:26
D Mark Streit 39 2 17 19 -17 23:30
R Kyle Okposo 36 8 9 17 -17 16:46
R Michael Grabner 38 10 7 17 -14 16:41
C Josh Bailey 39 3 8 11 -10 14:12
D Travis Hamonic 39 1 9 10 -8 22:23
L Matt Martin 39 5 4 9 -10 11:48
R Brian Rolston 32 4 4 8 -9 14:52
D Steve Staios 32 0 5 5 -11 18:24
C Marty Reasoner 35 0 5 5 -16 11:17
D Milan Jurcina 30 2 3 5 -17 19:05
D Andrew MacDonald 32 3 1 4 -9 23:29
L David Ullstrom 14 2 2 4 1 10:14
D Mike Mottau 28 0 2 2 -9 14:14
D Mark Eaton 24 0 2 2 -5 15:40
D Dylan Reese 9 1 1 2 -3 16:02
L Jay Pandolfo 22 1 0 1 -6 11:38
R Tim Wallace 15 0 1 1 -1 9:36
R Nino Niederreiter 16 1 0 1 -10 9:24
L Trevor Gillies 3 0 0 0 -1 2:52
C Micheal Haley 7 0 0 0 0 6:10
D Calvin de Haan 1 0 0 0 1 13:01

NYI Goalies:
Al Montoya 17,  6-5-3,  2.46,  0.917
Evgeni Nabokov 17,  5-10-0,  2.77,  0.908
Kevin Poulin 1,  0-1-0,  3.05,  0.897
Rick DiPietro 8,  3-2-3,  3.73,  0.876
Anders Nilsson 2,  0-1-0,  4.85, 0.849

TSN - HOT and NOT:

DET: Hot:
Brad Stuart (D) 2 pts in last 3 GP
Henrik Zetterberg (C/LW) 6 pts in last 3 GP
Valtteri Filppula (C/W) 5 pts in last 3 GP
Johan Franzen (LW/RW) 3 pts in last 2 GP
Pavel Datsyuk (C/LW) 3 pts in last 2 GP
Jiri Hudler (LW/RW) 4 pts in last 3 GP

DET: Not Hot:
Nicklas Lidstrom (D) 0 pts in last 5 GP
Niklas Kronwall (D) 3 pts in last 10 GP
Dan Cleary (RW/LW) 1 pts in last 6 GP
Todd Bertuzzi (RW/LW) 1 pts in last 4 GP
Jimmy Howard (G) 1-1-0, 4.03, .830 in last 2 GPI

NYI: Hot:
John Tavares (C) 9 pts in last 5 GP
Matt Moulson (LW/RW) 5 pts in last 4 GP
Frans Nielsen (C) 5 pts in last 5 GP
Kyle Okposo (RW) 4 pts in last 5 GP

NYI: Not Hot:
Andrew MacDonald (D) 0 pts in last 4 GP
Brian Rolston (LW/RW) 0 pts in last 4 GP
Josh Bailey (C/W) 0 pts in last 3 GP
Michael Grabner (LW/RW) 2 pts in last 8 GP
Evgeni Nabokov (G) 0-2-0, 4.58, .800 in last 2 GPI

Injury Report:

DET:
Patrick Eaves (RW) Jaw injury (Injured reserve)

NYI:
Mike Mottau (D) Concussion (Injured reserve)
Marty Reasoner (C) Broken right thumb (Sidelined indefinitely)
Rick DiPietro (G) Groin (Injured reserve)
Al Montoya (G) Concussion (Sidelined indefinitely)
Mark Katic (D) Dislocated left shoulder (Injured reserve)
David Ullstrom (C/W) Concussion (Injured reserve)

Jeff Sagarin NHL Ratings, USAToday

NHL 2010-2011 through games of 2012 JANUARY 9 MONDAY

HOME ADVANTAGE=  0.55   RATING   W   L SCHEDL(RANK) VS top 10 | VS top 16  

2 Detroit Red Wings     =  4.88   26 15   4.08(  5)  8   6 |  14 10
27 New York Islanders     =  3.24   14 25   4.06(  8)  2 15 |  4 18
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The Wings did not practice on Monday.  The Rifleman has been assigned to GR.

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Behind_Enemy_Lines's avatar

“Hopefully, we continue to win and stay up there, and we can look if there’s an opportunity to make a move to make us a little deeper.”

Who do you guys think they are looking at when they say depth? I was hoping for a true sniper.

Also, TY for GDT Okie.

Posted by Behind_Enemy_Lines from Evanston,IL on 01/10/12 at 02:30 PM ET

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I was hoping for a true sniper.

I’m hoping that he’s either kidding or vastly underselling their needs when he says “a little deeper” because as much as I like what this team CAN do, I don’t believe this roster is good enough (or consistent enough) to hoist the Cup.

Posted by Garth on 01/10/12 at 02:36 PM ET

MarkK's avatar

“All in all, after 41 games, if you’d have told me coming out of training camp this is where we’d be, we’d be pretty happy.

Damn liar. Holland expected nothing less than the Wings to be number 1 in the West, and we expect nothing less from him in terms of expectations. Or so I expect.

Posted by MarkK from Maryland on 01/10/12 at 02:54 PM ET

SYF's avatar

G’morning, Jeff, and g’morning to the GDT.  Thanks.

“Hopefully, we continue to win and stay up there, and we can look if there’s an opportunity to make a move to make us a little deeper.”

Wings have the deepest depth at the third and fourth lines of any team in the league.  I think he’s willing to deal a few of them for a top-six forward or yet another veteran defenseman.  But, hey, he’s the game’s best GM.  Whatever he does, well, he’s Tick Tock.


Referees:
#16 Brian Pochmara
#5 Chris Rooney

Linesmen:
#71 Brad Kovachik
#55 Mark Whele

At least we get a break from Hasenfratz and his over-officious, penalty-shot-calling ass.

Wings have stunk up the ice against the Isles in the last three matchups and scored a grand smashing total of three goals in the three games to the Isles nine or ten goals.  Memorable because our swagger got a reality check we can’t figure out against the Isles.

Posted by SYF from Zata's Epic Viking Beard on 01/10/12 at 02:55 PM ET

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Wings have the deepest depth at the third and fourth lines of any team in the league.

I think it’s good that they’ve got some NHL-ready guys playing in GR (ie. Conner, Nyquist, Smith) so there’s a lot of flexibility and they can afford to make some moves without worrying about thinning out the ranks too much.

I’d love for them to make a nice splash at the deadline (or preferably before the deadline, since there are a handful of Western Conference teams that also have cap space, and to not improve while watching the likes of Chicago, San Jose or Minnesota get better would be a scary thought…

Posted by Garth on 01/10/12 at 03:02 PM ET

Jeff  OKWingnut's avatar

“Hopefully, we continue to win and stay up there, and we can look if there’s an opportunity to make a move to make us a little deeper.”

I’m with BEL, Wings need a sniper.

But that’d almost demand juggling one of your top two lines and screwing with the chemistry (and they have been pretty damn good).

Do you get a “top 6” guy to play on the 3 line?

George says Datsyuk didn’t skate this morning - Yikes.

Per Khan(!) :

Holland said datsyuk out tonight. not serious. he is day to day

Posted by Jeff OKWingnut from Quest for 12 on 01/10/12 at 03:09 PM ET

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Do you get a “top 6” guy to play on the 3 line?

No, I think you get a top 6 guy to play with Datsyuk and Franzen and you put Bertuzzi where he belongs on the third line.

Posted by Garth on 01/10/12 at 03:11 PM ET

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But that’d almost demand juggling one of your top two lines and screwing with the chemistry (and they have been pretty damn good).

Furthermore, I would be more worried about messing up chemistry if this team wasn’t so maddeningly inconsistent.  I’m fine with temporarily upsetting some chemistry to make the team better as a whole.

Posted by Garth on 01/10/12 at 03:24 PM ET

Jeff  OKWingnut's avatar

C   Pavel Datsyuk   41   13   30   43   16   18:59   #3 in Assists
C   Johan Franzen   41   16   20   36   23   17:21
R   Todd Bertuzzi   35   6   12   18   17   15:11

35 goals, 62 assists, 97 points, +56

I understand the thinking, but “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it”

Posted by Jeff OKWingnut from Quest for 12 on 01/10/12 at 03:26 PM ET

Nate A's avatar

No, I think you get a top 6 guy to play with Datsyuk and Franzen and you put Bertuzzi where he belongs on the third line.

I second. And make it someone who’s first instinct upon entering the attacking zone is driving the net with or without the puck.

Posted by Nate A from Detroit-ish on 01/10/12 at 03:56 PM ET

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I understand the thinking, but “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it”

Fine, but how does that compare to the top lines of other top teams?

Calgary’s top line combines for 45 goals.
Edmonton’s combines for 36.
Vancouver’s combine for 45 goals and 123 points.
Chicago’s top line (at least what was the top line against the Red Wings, subbing Stalberg in for Sharp) has 41 goals, 52 if you put Sharp on the line.
San Jose’s top line has 39 goals.
Philly’s has 48 goals
Pittsburg’s has 50.

My point being why not improve your team if you can?  Sure our top line is good, but they’ve only got 1 more goal than our second line and 3 more points.  That speaks to some consistency among the top six but also speaks to the fact that there’s not one clear top line.  and we’ve got 6 gives out of 6 who are streaky and can have some significant droughts.

Hell, look at that top line and tell me there’s not one guy who is pretty glaringly out of place and wouldn’t improve with someone younger than Bertuzzi who’s going to end up with more than 30-35 points.

Datsyuk should and could be a 90-100 point player and Franzen has been “on the verge” of being a 40+ goal scorer for years.  Having a real, bonafide top six forward on a line with them could/should boost them up to those levels.

And as a postscript, this team is almost the exact same team that has stalled in the second round for two years running, so why on earth would Holland want to stand pat with the team he has?  Does he honestly think that the Canucks, Sharks, Blues, Wild, Hawks, Kings, Preds, Flyers, Rangers, Bruins have gotten that worse, making this team, by default, a real Cup contender?

Posted by Garth on 01/10/12 at 03:59 PM ET

42jeff's avatar

Getzlaf?

Discuss.

Posted by 42jeff from The greater Howard City, MI metroplex on 01/10/12 at 04:11 PM ET

SYF's avatar

I did not see much of the Schmucks matching up Getzlaf against Chumpo in the last Schmucks/Farts game (and these two teams don’t meet again until March - way past the trade deadline of Feb. 27th).  Boudreau purposely did that but Chumpo didn’t act douchebaggery in that game at all.  He was tame.

Posted by SYF from Zata's Epic Viking Beard on 01/10/12 at 04:17 PM ET

Behind_Enemy_Lines's avatar


please…..

Posted by Behind_Enemy_Lines from Evanston,IL on 01/10/12 at 04:21 PM ET

SYF's avatar

Posted by Behind_Enemy_Lines from somewhere in the North….Winter Is Coming on 01/10/12 at 01:21 PM ET


*Thanks to 42jeff.

I like it.

Posted by SYF from Zata's Epic Viking Beard on 01/10/12 at 04:45 PM ET

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I think Kenny has a hardon for Hemsky, which is ok if he stays healthy. I’d love to see what he could do playing on a team with real talent. The Oilers want a young defenseman in return. I say that it would have to be Kindl, even though I would spludge in my pants if Kenny could somehow ship Errorsson off to the land of frozen oil for Hemsky.

Team needs a sniper like Nash or even Bobby Ryan, but what would you really have to give up to get one of those guys, a team like Toronto would sell their future for a guy like that.

Posted by Jordan_NOHS from Detroit, MI on 01/10/12 at 07:04 PM ET

Jeff  OKWingnut's avatar

Garth I agree with most of your points (although I would like to see what other top-lines are in the way of +/- , well not BOS, I know they are obscene).

I disagree with your statement here:

And as a postscript, this team is almost the exact same team that has stalled in the second round for two years running,

Here are DET’s numbers at the conclusion of the ‘09-10 Regular season:

DET:  .691 point% (3), 3.57 g/g (1), 2.93 ga/g (19), 1.21 5-5 f/a (4), 25.9 pp (1), 78.4 pk (25), 36.1 s/g (1), 27.8 sa/g (2), 55.1 fo% (1).

And for 10-11:

DET:  .630 point% (7), 3.12 G/G (2), 2.89 GA/G (23), 1.01 F/A (17), 22.3 PP% (5), 82.2 PK% (17), 33.7 S/G (2), 30.6 SA/G (14),  52.2 FO% (3).

And today:

DET:  .646 point% (5), 3.24 G/G (3), 2.29 GA/G (5), 1.70 5-5 F/A (2), 19.7 PP% (6), 81.1 PK% (23), 33.1 S/G (3), 27.3 SA/G (3),  50.9 FO% (10).

A look at goal/differential:
09-10:  0.64
10-11:  0.23
Now:  0.95

Not the same team, my friend.  Alot has to do with Jimmy F. Howard, fer sure. But shots/against have improved considerably this year too.

Posted by Jeff OKWingnut from Quest for 12 on 01/10/12 at 07:21 PM ET

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Not the same team, my friend.

Look at the roster.

Who have they added that’s going to put them over the top when they have to play the Sharks again after a tough first round?

And Jimmy’s great, but they aren’t going to be able to rely on him in the playoffs as heavily as they have so far this season if he’s forced to play 70+ games and win a good chunk of them virtually on his own.

And going by your statistics, they goals for is right in the middle of the previous two years and the goals against is slightly lower.  The power play is worse than either of the previous two years and the PK is in the bottom third of the league.

And again, those goals against are from a first half where they’ve vastly underused their backup.  Conklin is going to have to play a lot more games in the second half than he did in the first half if they want Howard to be anything close to fresh.

Oh, and Detroit as of right now has a winning record against exactly 2 of the 7 Western conference playoff teams.

Posted by Garth on 01/10/12 at 07:49 PM ET

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Who have they added that’s going to put them over the top when they have to play the Sharks again after a tough first round?

you are forgetting that there is a switch, so now that we have Hudler and Filppula playing to potential, Z, Dats and Mule can all flip the switch and we are good…

I kid of course, we do need a sniper

Posted by Jordan_NOHS from Detroit, MI on 01/10/12 at 08:11 PM ET

cigar_nurse's avatar

Alfredsson for E-52 straight up. I know it aint gonna happen but this is what the cold medicine is tellin me. A hungry motivated Swede for a fat at the trough one.  Maybe McLean could straighten him out far away in the Leastern conference. Great stats as usual Okey.

Posted by cigar_nurse from Greenville South Cakalakee on 01/10/12 at 09:32 PM ET

Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit's avatar

As for Datsyuk, he’s day-to-day with a lower-body injury.

“I felt it yesterday (Monday) a little bit and hoped it would be better,” Datsyuk said. “But it’s not better.”

Howie is sitting, and, Dangle had his Danglers almost chopped off by 20cent.

Fuch the Cawks and their obsession with the Red Wings private parts.

Thanks OAkie.

Bitches.

Lets Go Red Wings!!!!!

Posted by Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit on 01/10/12 at 09:48 PM ET

SYF's avatar

Ten minutes to game time.  LB?

Posted by SYF from Zata's Epic Viking Beard on 01/10/12 at 09:52 PM ET

Nate A's avatar

Ten minutes to game time.  LB?

Let the thread-jacking commence

Posted by Nate A from Detroit-ish on 01/10/12 at 09:55 PM ET

cigar_nurse's avatar

Fuch the Cawks and their obsession with the Red Wings private parts.

Posted by Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit on 01/10/12 at 06:48 PM ET


Must be a Richard fetish. Goes right along with their Deetroit Sux chants. What a bunch of losers.

Posted by cigar_nurse from Greenville South Cakalakee on 01/10/12 at 09:57 PM ET

Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit's avatar

  Ten minutes to game time.  LB?

Let the thread-jacking commence

Posted by Nate A from Detroit-ish on 01/10/12 at 06:55 PM ET

2 minutes and counting. Where do we go from here? Bitches?

Lets Go Red Wings!!!!!

Posted by Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit on 01/10/12 at 09:59 PM ET

SYF's avatar

I’ll say one more thing about the Cawks fans and that’ll be it till Saturday:  they’re as phony as the Dives fans when Sakic was still playing and that fanbase thinks Forsberg was a draft pick of the Dives (uh, no, he wasn’t).

Posted by SYF from Zata's Epic Viking Beard on 01/10/12 at 09:59 PM ET

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FSD FEED

so glad to have a fds feed and not an nbcs feed

Posted by TheRealYooper from within sight of the edge of the Earth. on 01/10/12 at 10:00 PM ET

Jeff  OKWingnut's avatar

Put up an LB thread.

Posted by Jeff OKWingnut from Quest for 12 on 01/10/12 at 10:01 PM ET

Nate A's avatar

Belay that thread-jacking order. LB up here:

http://www.kuklaskorner.com/index.php/a2y/comments/live_blog_the_isle/

Posted by Nate A from Detroit-ish on 01/10/12 at 10:02 PM ET

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