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From Datsyuk to Abdelkader To Datsyuk To Russia And Back To Babcock: It’s a Live Blog

Listening to 97.1 today has been interesting.  Our post yesterday has been cited much of the day on this station and in a few other places and it's brought on a lot of side discussions focusing on two things:

Should the Wings trade Pavel Datsyuk while they can get something for him and while it's clear this team is not going to win this year?

Is Mike Babcock in danger of being fired, and would that be the right move?

My takes: I obviously believe Datsyuk is gone after next year.  I also have seen nothing from Ken Holland that tells me any moves will be made to make a final run to get 13 one more ring. Holland didn't do it for Lidstrom and he won't do it for Datsyuk. In fact, he's done nothing since Hossa left.  Nothing.  If the status quo remains because he "likes our team"?  He might as well get something for Datsyuk.  Callous? Yes. Realistic? Yes.  We love Datsyuk. He's the most popular Wing since The Captain, the first one.  But Holland has to know he's on his way out and not considering this option would be negligent.

If the right deal comes along: a young, can't-miss superstar along with multiple 1st and 2nd round picks...it has to be considered.

Mike Babcock has been in that seat for 8 seasons.  That's a long time.  We've been here for the whole thing. We're tired of his act just like we're tired of Holland's, especially now when the team has stagnated.  That's us.  And, frankly, it carries no water. We're fans and our opinion of his work has no bearing.  We're tired of him, largely, but that doesn't matter.

But the players?  I have no idea if they're tuning him (Babcock) out.  But this Datsyuk thing...it's so glaring.  He's had this science project going for a month and it's been a failure.  He's kept Justin Abdelkader on Datsyuk's line and that should have been a four game failed experiment. 

It's a tough time. It's difficult because we see the problems and we hear the same old crap.  Hell, I even heard a quote from Babcock just a few days ago..and he used the "sun came up" thing again.  Seriously.  

It may be time to clean house altogether. From Holland down.  Mike Ilitch will not do that. He won't fire Kenny Holland.  

Unless...if word filters up that Steve Yzerman's available?  All bets are off.  

All of that is the future.  This is a Live Blog (bitches) and that is most definitely the present, and the present is sucking hard.  The playoffs are still...a consideration.  They are.  And if you make it, well shit.  You never know.  And man this would be something if they made a run after this clusterfuch of a season.  

Once again, as we've said so many times...It has to start tonite.  It must.  

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Hootinani's avatar

As in, only Helen Keller could appreciate this brand of hockey?

Posted by Thunderpriest on 03/15/13 at 09:55 PM ET

that was also funny

Posted by Hootinani on 03/15/13 at 09:56 PM ET

MoreShoot's avatar

It’s Helen Keller Appreciation Night.

Did you know she was a Wobblie?

Posted by MoreShoot on 03/15/13 at 09:56 PM ET

calquake's avatar

As in, only Helen Keller could appreciate this brand of hockey?

Posted by Thunderpriest on 03/15/13 at 09:55 PM ET

She’d still make a better ref.

Posted by calquake on 03/15/13 at 09:56 PM ET

Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit's avatar

Upon review, Howard should have had that. Not that it matters now.

Lets Go Red Wings!!!!!

Posted by Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit on 03/15/13 at 09:57 PM ET

Jeff  OKWingnut's avatar

Mick zings the PP, priceless

Posted by Jeff OKWingnut from Quest for 12 on 03/15/13 at 09:58 PM ET

Hootinani's avatar

Theres just no fight in these guys with the man advantage.

Posted by Hootinani on 03/15/13 at 09:59 PM ET

Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit's avatar

The Euro Twins should be together on the PP.

Lets Go Red Wings!!!!!

Posted by Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit on 03/15/13 at 09:59 PM ET

stonehands-78's avatar

mick and ken spewing the sARCISM ...

tHE wINGS pp iS oN fIRE!

Posted by stonehands-78 from the beginning ... a WingsFan, on 03/15/13 at 09:59 PM ET

Rumbear's avatar

  It’s Helen Keller Appreciation Night.

Did you know she was a Wobblie?

Posted by MoreShoot on 03/15/13 at 09:56 PM ET

  Yur going to hell, you know that…right? wink

Posted by Rumbear from Top O the Hasek, hanging with Dan Cleary.... on 03/15/13 at 09:59 PM ET

Thunderpriest's avatar

WAS THAT A SHOT ON GOAL?!?!?!?
WOW!!!

Posted by Thunderpriest on 03/15/13 at 09:59 PM ET

Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit's avatar

Thanks Cleary.

Lets Go Red Wings!!!!!

Posted by Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit on 03/15/13 at 10:01 PM ET

calquake's avatar

Wasteful strikes again.

Posted by calquake on 03/15/13 at 10:02 PM ET

MoreShoot's avatar

I actually think the 8-63-11 line could be ok (really, I lust for a 8-43-17 line)

Posted by MoreShoot on 03/15/13 at 10:04 PM ET

MoreShoot's avatar

17 min in first Ken Daniels calling Emmerton’s name.  Really?

Posted by MoreShoot on 03/15/13 at 10:05 PM ET

Little Redhead's avatar

JIMMAH

Posted by Little Redhead from the Engineer's chair on 03/15/13 at 10:07 PM ET

MOWingsfan19's avatar

Holy Pavel.
Trade him.

Posted by MOWingsfan19 from I really like our team on 03/15/13 at 10:08 PM ET

MoreShoot's avatar

Swedes are never tripped

Posted by MoreShoot on 03/15/13 at 10:08 PM ET

Rumbear's avatar

Ryan Smith…wasn’t he the flavor of the year not so long ago?

Posted by Rumbear from Top O the Hasek, hanging with Dan Cleary.... on 03/15/13 at 10:08 PM ET

Little Redhead's avatar

Some Shoot to the NET

Posted by Little Redhead from the Engineer's chair on 03/15/13 at 10:08 PM ET

Hootinani's avatar

All that work and not even an attempted shot on goal.

Posted by Hootinani on 03/15/13 at 10:08 PM ET

Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit's avatar

Now he’s here. Now he’s there. Magic!

Lets Go Red Wings!!!!!

Posted by Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit on 03/15/13 at 10:08 PM ET

calquake's avatar

Ryan Smith…wasn’t he the flavor of the year not so long ago?

Posted by Rumbear from Top O the Hasek, enjoying the decline…... on 03/15/13 at 10:08 PM ET

Back when Kate was a young lass. cheese

Posted by calquake on 03/15/13 at 10:09 PM ET

Hootinani's avatar

Holy Pavel. Trade him.

Posted by MOWingsfan19 from I really like our team on 03/15/13 at 10:08 PM ET

Holy Pavel, and nothing to show for it.  The theme of the season.

Posted by Hootinani on 03/15/13 at 10:10 PM ET

Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit's avatar

Back when Kate was a young lass.

Posted by calquake on 03/15/13 at 10:09 PM ET

Reed Larson was the flavor when I was a young lass. wink

Lets Go Red Wings!!!!!

Posted by Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit on 03/15/13 at 10:11 PM ET

Hootinani's avatar

To be fair though, Babs should just show video of that shift to the rest of the team during the intermission and say:

Thats what Pav is doing for this team

Ask yourself:  What are you doing for the team?

Posted by Hootinani on 03/15/13 at 10:12 PM ET

calquake's avatar

Reed Larson was the flavor when I was a young lass. wink

Lets Go Red Wings!!!!!

Posted by Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit on 03/15/13 at 10:11 PM ET

Was my favorite Wing of that era.

Posted by calquake on 03/15/13 at 10:12 PM ET

alukacs's avatar

anyone has a Wings feed? I spent two hours in the dentist chair today…. ready for more pain.

Posted by alukacs on 03/15/13 at 10:13 PM ET

Rumbear's avatar

http://www.firstrow1.eu/watch/175017/3/watch-edmonton-oilers-vs-detroit-red-wings.html

Ken & the road Warrior Mick

.......don’t tell anyone.

Posted by Rumbear from Top O the Hasek, hanging with Dan Cleary.... on 03/15/13 at 10:15 PM ET

alukacs's avatar

Rumbear - thanks. The geographically closest team to me is Edmonton and I can find every other game on tv but this one…

Posted by alukacs on 03/15/13 at 10:16 PM ET

calquake's avatar

  Reed Larson was the flavor when I was a young lass. wink

  Lets Go Red Wings!!!!!

  Posted by Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit on 03/15/13 at 10:11 PM ET

Was my favorite Wing of that era.

For all of youse that think the Wings suck now… you don’t know suck unless you lived through the Dead Wings and Darkness With Harkness eras.

Posted by calquake on 03/15/13 at 10:16 PM ET

Little Redhead's avatar

Reed Larson #28, Captain of the Detrout Red Wings, had the hardest shot in the NHL, 904 regular season games between 1976 and 1990, not to mention he was nice on the eyes.

Lucky you, Kate!

Posted by Little Redhead from the Engineer's chair on 03/15/13 at 10:17 PM ET

WestWing's avatar

Evening kids!  Looks like a missed another hot start.  Nice to see Reed Larson back in the lineup though.  Rogie Vachon between the pipes tonight?

Posted by WestWing from Portland, Oregon on 03/15/13 at 10:18 PM ET

calquake's avatar

Reed Larson #28, Captain of the Detrout Red Wings,

You don’t know just how accurate that statement is.

Posted by calquake on 03/15/13 at 10:19 PM ET

Rumbear's avatar

For all of youse that think the Wings suck now… you don’t know suck unless you lived through the Dead Wings and Darkness With Harkness eras.

You had to go there…..

Posted by Rumbear from Top O the Hasek, hanging with Dan Cleary.... on 03/15/13 at 10:19 PM ET

Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit's avatar

Era: a fixed point in time from which a series of years is reckoned.

Like the Dead Things era. Bad times.

Lets Go Red Wings!!!!!

Posted by Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit on 03/15/13 at 10:19 PM ET

Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit's avatar

So is this the Living Dead Wings era?

Lets Fo Red Wings!!!!!

Posted by Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit on 03/15/13 at 10:22 PM ET

Hootinani's avatar

For all of youse that think the Wings suck now… you don’t know suck unless you lived through the Dead Wings Era
Posted by calquake on 03/15/13 at 10:16 PM ET

Been there, done that.

Posted by Hootinani on 03/15/13 at 10:23 PM ET

MoreShoot's avatar

ok. Thought about it. Pasha for Evander Kane and Jacob Trouba.  Prt of me likes that, but the other part says Pavel deserves better. Damn.

Posted by MoreShoot on 03/15/13 at 10:23 PM ET

Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit's avatar

Fo=Go. Whore iPad strikes again.

Lets Go Red Wings!!!!!

Posted by Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit on 03/15/13 at 10:23 PM ET

Little Redhead's avatar

Captain of the Detrout Red Wings

opps - Sorry Wings nutz, sick

Captain of the DETROIT Red Wings

Posted by Little Redhead from the Engineer's chair on 03/15/13 at 10:23 PM ET

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