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From Datsyuk to Abdelkader To Datsyuk To Russia And Back To Babcock: It’s a Live Blog

Listening to 97.1 today has been interesting.  Our post yesterday has been cited much of the day on this station and in a few other places and it's brought on a lot of side discussions focusing on two things:

Should the Wings trade Pavel Datsyuk while they can get something for him and while it's clear this team is not going to win this year?

Is Mike Babcock in danger of being fired, and would that be the right move?

My takes: I obviously believe Datsyuk is gone after next year.  I also have seen nothing from Ken Holland that tells me any moves will be made to make a final run to get 13 one more ring. Holland didn't do it for Lidstrom and he won't do it for Datsyuk. In fact, he's done nothing since Hossa left.  Nothing.  If the status quo remains because he "likes our team"?  He might as well get something for Datsyuk.  Callous? Yes. Realistic? Yes.  We love Datsyuk. He's the most popular Wing since The Captain, the first one.  But Holland has to know he's on his way out and not considering this option would be negligent.

If the right deal comes along: a young, can't-miss superstar along with multiple 1st and 2nd round picks...it has to be considered.

Mike Babcock has been in that seat for 8 seasons.  That's a long time.  We've been here for the whole thing. We're tired of his act just like we're tired of Holland's, especially now when the team has stagnated.  That's us.  And, frankly, it carries no water. We're fans and our opinion of his work has no bearing.  We're tired of him, largely, but that doesn't matter.

But the players?  I have no idea if they're tuning him (Babcock) out.  But this Datsyuk thing...it's so glaring.  He's had this science project going for a month and it's been a failure.  He's kept Justin Abdelkader on Datsyuk's line and that should have been a four game failed experiment. 

It's a tough time. It's difficult because we see the problems and we hear the same old crap.  Hell, I even heard a quote from Babcock just a few days ago..and he used the "sun came up" thing again.  Seriously.  

It may be time to clean house altogether. From Holland down.  Mike Ilitch will not do that. He won't fire Kenny Holland.  

Unless...if word filters up that Steve Yzerman's available?  All bets are off.  

All of that is the future.  This is a Live Blog (bitches) and that is most definitely the present, and the present is sucking hard.  The playoffs are still...a consideration.  They are.  And if you make it, well shit.  You never know.  And man this would be something if they made a run after this clusterfuch of a season.  

Once again, as we've said so many times...It has to start tonite.  It must.  

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Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit's avatar

Happy Birthday CigarNurse! Is it rude to ask how old? Cause I am askin’.

Lets Go Red Wings!!!!!

Posted by Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit on 03/15/13 at 10:49 PM ET

Little Redhead's avatar

My Grandson uses the iPad more than I do. Great educational tool.

Try Star Walk, pretty awesome App.

Posted by Little Redhead from the Engineer's chair on 03/15/13 at 10:50 PM ET

WestWing's avatar

Just wait… when they increase the size of the net… we’ll still hit the post.

Posted by calquake on 03/15/13 at 10:49 PM ET

It’s like some sort of bizarro-world marksmanship.

Posted by WestWing from Portland, Oregon on 03/15/13 at 10:50 PM ET

Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit's avatar

Tootoo is a hell of a punching bag.

Lets Go Red Wings!!!!!

Posted by Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit on 03/15/13 at 10:50 PM ET

Rumbear's avatar

Tootoo!!!  Our little can of Whup A@@!

Posted by Rumbear from Top O the Hasek, doing the prospect shuffle.... on 03/15/13 at 10:51 PM ET

Rumbear's avatar

Pavs just isn’t the same without Abby…...

Posted by Rumbear from Top O the Hasek, doing the prospect shuffle.... on 03/15/13 at 10:54 PM ET

TheRealYooper's avatar

there is two

Posted by TheRealYooper from within sight of the edge of the Earth. on 03/15/13 at 10:56 PM ET

WestWing's avatar

Two goal deficit.  Pretty much insurmountable for this team.

Posted by WestWing from Portland, Oregon on 03/15/13 at 10:57 PM ET

Rumbear's avatar

Aw crap…..

Posted by Rumbear from Top O the Hasek, doing the prospect shuffle.... on 03/15/13 at 10:57 PM ET

Jeff  OKWingnut's avatar

Since DET cannot even get a shot tonight, this looks bad.

Posted by Jeff OKWingnut from Quest for 12 on 03/15/13 at 10:57 PM ET

Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit's avatar

Try Star Walk, pretty awesome App.

Posted by Little Redhead from the Engineer’s chair on 03/15/13 at 10:50 PM ET

Yes it is.

Lets Go Red Wings!!!!!

Posted by Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit on 03/15/13 at 10:57 PM ET

Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit's avatar

FUCH!

Lets Go Red Wings!!!!!

Posted by Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit on 03/15/13 at 10:58 PM ET

cigar_nurse's avatar

Thank you to all my fake friends. I can’t think of a better group to spend some quality time with.

Kate.I’m Ericsson’s number today, but feel much older after blocking at least a half dozen shots playing defense last night.

Posted by cigar_nurse from Greenville South Cakalakee on 03/15/13 at 10:58 PM ET

Little Redhead's avatar

I’d like to buy a goal, for $25, anyone want to join me?

Posted by Little Redhead from the Engineer's chair on 03/15/13 at 10:59 PM ET

Wings_in_NYC's avatar

This team is done. Ugh. What an embarrassment. Glad Kenny likes his team.

Posted by Wings_in_NYC on 03/15/13 at 11:00 PM ET

calquake's avatar

I’m Ericsson’s number today,

25?  Oh wait… I’m dyslexic.

Posted by calquake on 03/15/13 at 11:00 PM ET

Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit's avatar

Thank you to all my fake friends. I can’t think of a better group to spend some quality time with.

Kate.I’m Ericsson’s number today, but feel much older after blocking at least a half dozen shots playing defense last night.

Posted by cigar_nurse from Greenville South Cakalakee on 03/15/13 at 10:58 PM ET

I wish you good health and many, many more decades.

Lets Go Red Wings!!!!!

Posted by Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit on 03/15/13 at 11:00 PM ET

TheRealYooper's avatar

sad sad sad

Posted by TheRealYooper from within sight of the edge of the Earth. on 03/15/13 at 11:02 PM ET

calquake's avatar

Well… that was unsatisfying.

Posted by calquake on 03/15/13 at 11:02 PM ET

Hootinani's avatar

Thats all I can take, and I can’t take no more

Night bitches, hope the 3rd treats ya better

Posted by Hootinani on 03/15/13 at 11:02 PM ET

cigar_nurse's avatar

Hey 3 rd line pope Cal. How much for a dispensation or exorcism? Sorry Abby beat you out on the 2nd line.

Posted by cigar_nurse from Greenville South Cakalakee on 03/15/13 at 11:06 PM ET

Rumbear's avatar

52!...yur a young un. 

This what its come too?...FSD interviewing the other team. Where’s my facepalm….I left it here somewhere.

Posted by Rumbear from Top O the Hasek, doing the prospect shuffle.... on 03/15/13 at 11:07 PM ET

calquake's avatar

Wings chances of scoring three goals tonight?  Negligible at best but I stay because I’m a Wingaholic.

Posted by calquake on 03/15/13 at 11:09 PM ET

Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit's avatar

52!...yur a young un.

This what its come too?...FSD interviewing the other team. Where’s my facepalm….I left it here somewhere.

Posted by Rumbear from Top O the Hasek, enjoying the decline…... on 03/15/13 at 11:07 PM ET

I swear I had a feeling about the interview. No kidding. Changing my name to Cleo.

Lets Go Red Wings!!!!!

 

Posted by Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit on 03/15/13 at 11:10 PM ET

calquake's avatar

How much for a dispensation or exorcism?

Would that I could.

Posted by calquake on 03/15/13 at 11:10 PM ET

calquake's avatar

Changing my name to Cleo.

Call me now!  I think we’re in the wrong professions.  She was fined 5 million dollars for her shenanigans… but she made 25 million.  Go figure.

Posted by calquake on 03/15/13 at 11:12 PM ET

Jeff  OKWingnut's avatar

Watching the game with Rambo, and thinking he wasn’t even born the last time the Wings were this bad.

Posted by Jeff OKWingnut from Quest for 12 on 03/15/13 at 11:14 PM ET

Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit's avatar

Call me now!  I think we’re in the wrong professions.  She was fined 5 million dollars for her shenanigans… but she made 25 million.  Go figure.

Posted by calquake on 03/15/13 at 11:12 PM ET

Guess she really is amazing. Cha-ching$$$


Lets Go Red Wings!!!!!

Posted by Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit on 03/15/13 at 11:14 PM ET

calquake's avatar

This pretend season is turning into quite the meltdown eh?

Posted by calquake on 03/15/13 at 11:15 PM ET

stonehands-78's avatar

the next three goals are HUGE

Posted by stonehands-78 from the beginning ... a WingsFan, on 03/15/13 at 11:17 PM ET

calquake's avatar

Just seventeen more days to Tigers baseball?  Who cares, I’m a Wingaholic.

Posted by calquake on 03/15/13 at 11:18 PM ET

Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit's avatar

Babcock talks a good game….......He needs to back up those words with wins. Bitches.

Lets Go Red Wings!!!!!

Posted by Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit on 03/15/13 at 11:19 PM ET

Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit's avatar

Just seventeen more days to Tigers baseball?  Who cares, I’m a Wingaholic.

Posted by calquake on 03/15/13 at 11:18 PM ET

Exactly! wink

Lets Go Red Wings!!!!!

Posted by Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit on 03/15/13 at 11:21 PM ET

Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit's avatar

the next three goals are HUGE

Posted by stonehands-78 from the beginning ... a WingsFan, on 03/15/13 at 11:17 PM ET

Yes indeed.

Lets Go Red Wings!!!!!

Posted by Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit on 03/15/13 at 11:22 PM ET

calquake's avatar

Pav… 0 goals in eleven games.  Zetterberg… 1 goal in twenty games.  Obviously something’s not right.  Are you listening Babs?  Or better yet, are they still listening to you?

Posted by calquake on 03/15/13 at 11:23 PM ET

Rumbear's avatar

I have five tickets for the Wings vs Ducks game next Friday….may have to wear a bag over my head.

Posted by Rumbear from Top O the Hasek, doing the prospect shuffle.... on 03/15/13 at 11:23 PM ET

Jeff  OKWingnut's avatar

Wally!!

Posted by Jeff OKWingnut from Quest for 12 on 03/15/13 at 11:25 PM ET

Little Redhead's avatar

Finally

Posted by Little Redhead from the Engineer's chair on 03/15/13 at 11:25 PM ET

Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit's avatar

Flips it in!

Lets Go Red Wings!!!!!

Posted by Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit on 03/15/13 at 11:25 PM ET

Rumbear's avatar

Ahhhh the comeback begins…...

Posted by Rumbear from Top O the Hasek, doing the prospect shuffle.... on 03/15/13 at 11:25 PM ET

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