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From Datsyuk to Abdelkader To Datsyuk To Russia And Back To Babcock: It’s a Live Blog
by IwoCPO on 03/15/13 at 08:24 PM ET
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Listening to 97.1 today has been interesting. Our post yesterday has been cited much of the day on this station and in a few other places and it's brought on a lot of side discussions focusing on two things:
Should the Wings trade Pavel Datsyuk while they can get something for him and while it's clear this team is not going to win this year?
Is Mike Babcock in danger of being fired, and would that be the right move?
My takes: I obviously believe Datsyuk is gone after next year. I also have seen nothing from Ken Holland that tells me any moves will be made to make a final run to get 13 one more ring. Holland didn't do it for Lidstrom and he won't do it for Datsyuk. In fact, he's done nothing since Hossa left. Nothing. If the status quo remains because he "likes our team"? He might as well get something for Datsyuk. Callous? Yes. Realistic? Yes. We love Datsyuk. He's the most popular Wing since The Captain, the first one. But Holland has to know he's on his way out and not considering this option would be negligent.
If the right deal comes along: a young, can't-miss superstar along with multiple 1st and 2nd round picks...it has to be considered.
Mike Babcock has been in that seat for 8 seasons. That's a long time. We've been here for the whole thing. We're tired of his act just like we're tired of Holland's, especially now when the team has stagnated. That's us. And, frankly, it carries no water. We're fans and our opinion of his work has no bearing. We're tired of him, largely, but that doesn't matter.
But the players? I have no idea if they're tuning him (Babcock) out. But this Datsyuk thing...it's so glaring. He's had this science project going for a month and it's been a failure. He's kept Justin Abdelkader on Datsyuk's line and that should have been a four game failed experiment.
It's a tough time. It's difficult because we see the problems and we hear the same old crap. Hell, I even heard a quote from Babcock just a few days ago..and he used the "sun came up" thing again. Seriously.
It may be time to clean house altogether. From Holland down. Mike Ilitch will not do that. He won't fire Kenny Holland.
Unless...if word filters up that Steve Yzerman's available? All bets are off.
All of that is the future. This is a Live Blog (bitches) and that is most definitely the present, and the present is sucking hard. The playoffs are still...a consideration. They are. And if you make it, well shit. You never know. And man this would be something if they made a run after this clusterfuch of a season.
Once again, as we've said so many times...It has to start tonite. It must.
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Kate, yur Guching keyboard is doing it again…...
Posted by Rumbear from Top O the Hasek, enjoying the decline…... on 03/15/13 at 10:24 PM ET
Son of a Nitch.
Posted by calquake from a.k.a. Uniquake, workin' on my manifesto on 03/15/13 at 10:26 PM ET
Pasha for Evander Kane and Jacob Trouba.
See, now your thinking. And I agree, Pav deserves better. But I’m starting to think he deserves better than the Wings right now, too.
Posted by Hootinani from the parade following Babs out of town on 03/15/13 at 10:26 PM ET
Kate, yur Guching keyboard is doing it again…...
Posted by Rumbear from Top O the Hasek, enjoying the decline…... on 03/15/13 at 10:24 PM ET
It’s like Homer Simpson and the fat fingers. My fingers are too fat to type. Please try again.
Lets Go Red Wings!!!!!
Posted by Kate from PA now in SC-made in Detroit on 03/15/13 at 10:27 PM ET
Kate,
Have you ever thought about getting a ipad portolio with keyboard….might help.
Posted by Little Redhead from the Engineer's Chair on 03/15/13 at 10:27 PM ET
Clearly quite a few of us were raised on Detroit Red Wing hockey that was, well, let’s just say, not always at the level of excellence we’ve witnessed over the past twenty years or so.
Come to think of it, that’s where I first learned how well drinking and hockey go together. I think I’ll have another beer.
Posted by WestWing from Portland, Oregon on 03/15/13 at 10:28 PM ET
Come to think of it, that’s where I first learned how well drinking and hockey go together. I think I’ll have another beer.
Posted by WestWing from Portland, Oregon on 03/15/13 at 10:28 PM ET
My liver applauds you.
Posted by calquake from a.k.a. Uniquake, workin' on my manifesto on 03/15/13 at 10:28 PM ET
Rummie remind me.. did you get midwest venison this year?
Posted by MOWingsfan19 from I really like our team on 03/15/13 at 10:29 PM ET
Magic by Pav, and Kindl wastes is instead finding someone in open space.
Posted by Hootinani from the parade following Babs out of town on 03/15/13 at 10:29 PM ET
If ya ever played boot hockey you know exactly how well drinking and hockey go hand in hand.
Posted by MOWingsfan19 from I really like our team on 03/15/13 at 10:32 PM ET
Rummie remind me.. did you get midwest venison this year?
None. Although I did find a vacuum packed package from our last exchanged…fine grind, I believe. It was still good and I made some great burgers. Mixed in a little bacon for “consistancy”.
MMmmmmmmmm!
Posted by Rumbear from Top O the Hasek, Czech out my recliner..... on 03/15/13 at 10:32 PM ET
Sure, give Quincey the best setup of the game
Posted by Hootinani from the parade following Babs out of town on 03/15/13 at 10:32 PM ET
Just my imagination or does this team actually hit the goal post more often than they score goals?
Posted by WestWing from Portland, Oregon on 03/15/13 at 10:33 PM ET
Kate,
Have you ever thought about getting a ipad portolio with keyboard….might help.Posted by Little Redhead from the Engineer’s chair on 03/15/13 at 10:27 PM ET
Yes, but, I really only use the iPad for recreational purposes. Not work.
Lets Go Red Wings!!!!!
Posted by Kate from PA now in SC-made in Detroit on 03/15/13 at 10:34 PM ET
Sure, give Quincey the best setup of the game
Could be worse.. it could’ve been Abby.
Posted by calquake from a.k.a. Uniquake, workin' on my manifesto on 03/15/13 at 10:34 PM ET
You still have my email addy Rummie?
I made some venison burger mixed with beef trim and bacon thats fkn epicly good cooked over charcoal.
I will send ya a care package for a left coast cookout…...
Posted by MOWingsfan19 from I really like our team on 03/15/13 at 10:35 PM ET
Yes, but, I really only use the iPad for recreational purposes. Not work.
Ima just leaving that one alone, back to you Cal.
Posted by Rumbear from Top O the Hasek, Czech out my recliner..... on 03/15/13 at 10:35 PM ET
Sure, give Quincey the best setup of the game
Posted by Hootinani from Just outside Delta College Admissions Office on 03/15/13 at 10:32 PM ET
Still came closer than Franzen ever does these days.
Posted by Valek from Chicago on 03/15/13 at 10:35 PM ET
Did someone say set up Abby…. or almost anyway.
Posted by MOWingsfan19 from I really like our team on 03/15/13 at 10:36 PM ET
Still came closer than Franzen ever does these days.
Posted by Valek on 03/15/13 at 10:35 PM ET
Who is this Franzen you speak of?
Posted by Hootinani from the parade following Babs out of town on 03/15/13 at 10:36 PM ET
Who is this Franzen you speak of?
a farm animal of some sort, an ass i believe.
Posted by TheRealYooper from within sight of the edge of the Earth. on 03/15/13 at 10:37 PM ET
Yes, but, I really only use the iPad for recreational purposes. Not work.
Ima just leaving that one alone, back to you Cal.
Posted by Rumbear from Top O the Hasek, enjoying the decline…... on 03/15/13 at 10:35 PM ET
Moi? I took a shot at Kate earlier in the blog… don’t want to go to that well too often.
Posted by calquake from a.k.a. Uniquake, workin' on my manifesto on 03/15/13 at 10:38 PM ET
You still have my email addy Rummie?
Just checked…Yup. I would be eternally grateful!
Posted by Rumbear from Top O the Hasek, Czech out my recliner..... on 03/15/13 at 10:38 PM ET
Clearly quite a few of us were raised on Detroit Red Wing hockey that was, well, let’s just say, not always at the level of excellence we’ve witnessed over the past twenty years or so.
My youngest son was born in ‘83. He’s pretty much known only the Good Red Wings.
Lets Go Red Wings!!!!!
Posted by Kate from PA now in SC-made in Detroit on 03/15/13 at 10:39 PM ET
Email me the mail to addy and I will get something out this week.
Posted by MOWingsfan19 from I really like our team on 03/15/13 at 10:40 PM ET
7 fuching shots against the worst SA/G team in the league (33.9/G).
Obscene
Posted by Jeff OKWingnut from Quest for 12 on 03/15/13 at 10:40 PM ET
Hola 19 .Just catching up. What a shitty Damn day at work and this game is not looking much better.
A Red Wing win would salvage what is left of the rest of my birthday.
Posted by cigar_nurse from On The mend for next season Greenville Pylons on 03/15/13 at 10:42 PM ET
Happy Birthday CNurse… you’d be 75 in EMS years.
Posted by calquake from a.k.a. Uniquake, workin' on my manifesto on 03/15/13 at 10:43 PM ET
My youngest son was born in ‘83. He’s pretty much known only the Good Red Wings.
Lets Go Red Wings!!!!!
Posted by Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit on 03/15/13 at 10:39 PM ET
As I said last LB, I worry about the young ‘uns. To some of us it’s almost nostalgic to see Red Wing teams this inept, but there’s a whole generation or two who’ve never seen anything like this. Must be shocking.
Posted by WestWing from Portland, Oregon on 03/15/13 at 10:44 PM ET
Posted by cigar_nurse from Greenville South Cakalakee on 03/15/13 at 10:42 PM ET
Happy birthday man. I think I’ll pour myself another drink to toast the occasion.
Posted by WestWing from Portland, Oregon on 03/15/13 at 10:46 PM ET
Email me the mail to addy and I will get something out this week.
Message sent. You like trout?
Posted by Rumbear from Top O the Hasek, Czech out my recliner..... on 03/15/13 at 10:46 PM ET
My Grandson uses the iPad more than I do. Great educational tool. I use it for pinball and lame stuff.
Lets Go Red Wings!!!!!
Posted by Kate from PA now in SC-made in Detroit on 03/15/13 at 10:47 PM ET
Seriously this team hits the post far more often than they score.
Posted by WestWing from Portland, Oregon on 03/15/13 at 10:47 PM ET
Posted by cigar_nurse from Greenville South Cakalakee on 03/15/13 at 10:42 PM ET
Happy Birthday! May South Cakalakee be a rocking tonite!!
Posted by Rumbear from Top O the Hasek, Czech out my recliner..... on 03/15/13 at 10:48 PM ET
Seriously this team hits the post far more often than they score.
Posted by WestWing from Portland, Oregon on 03/15/13 at 10:47 PM ET
Just wait… when they increase the size of the net… we’ll still hit the post.
Posted by calquake from a.k.a. Uniquake, workin' on my manifesto on 03/15/13 at 10:49 PM ET
Happy Birthday CigarNurse! Is it rude to ask how old? Cause I am askin’.
Lets Go Red Wings!!!!!
Posted by Kate from PA now in SC-made in Detroit on 03/15/13 at 10:49 PM ET
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