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Expect A New Contract For Jimmy Howard

from Ansar Khan of Mlive,

The Red Wings are happy with Howard, and Howard is happy in Detroit. That is why the sides are sure to agree on a contract extension this season.

Howard is in the final year of his contract (a six-year deal with a cap hit of $5.29 million) and turns 35 in March, which has led to speculation he might be moved at the trade deadline for a draft pick. With Jonathan Quick out indefinitely following knee surgery last week, some wondered if a trade might come sooner and the Los Angeles Kings would be interested.

It doesn't matter. The Red Wings are committed to keeping Howard. He likely will receive a multiyear contract, and the tandem of Howard and Jonathan Bernier will be manning the nets in Detroit for a couple more seasons.


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Down River Dan's avatar

I’d go max 2 year deal.  confused

Posted by Down River Dan on 11/07/18 at 05:10 PM ET

Paul's avatar

In other news…

– The Detroit Red Wings today assigned center Christoffer Ehn to the American Hockey League’s Grand Rapids Griffins.

Ehn was recalled by the Red Wings yesterday and skated 6:53 time on ice with one shot and four hits during the team’s 3-2 shootout win over the Vancouver Canucks. The 22-year-old has split his first season in North America between the NHL and AHL, skating in 10 games for the Red Wings and five games for the Griffins. With Detroit, Ehn made his NHL debut on Oct. 4 vs. Columbus and registered his first NHL assist on Oct. 11 vs. Toronto, adding a plus-two rating, four penalty minutes and eight shots on goal. In five games with the Griffins this season, he has picked up four points (1-3-4), a plus-five rating, two penalty minutes and three shots on goal. He helped the Griffins pick up five of a possible six points over the weekend (2-0-0-1) after back-to-back multi-point games, which included his first AHL goal and assist on Nov. 3 vs. Milwaukee.

Posted by Paul from Motown Area on 11/07/18 at 05:49 PM ET

Primis's avatar

I’d go max 2 year deal.  confused

Posted by Down River Dan on 11/07/18 at 04:10 PM ET

He’s 34.  I’d say a 2-year deal is reasonable, and 3 years would be a stretch but not outrageous given DET’s lack of goalies in the pipeline.  Anything else would start to be outrageous.

Jimmy’s earned 2-3 more years.

Posted by Primis on 11/07/18 at 06:02 PM ET


Why, Why, sweet baby fn Jesus why?  Its not that I don’t like him, but what does signing him to term do for this team.  Why did they sign Bernier to a 3x3 if this was in the realm of possibilities?  So we could have two aging goalies making at 3MM minimum each per year.  I don’t see Howard taking less than him.  And it would be a 35+ contract.  Please point out what the positives of this for the team are?  They are not giving Bernier enough starts to make him trade attractive, so what exactly is the plan?  Next it will be St. James saying they are working on an extension for Kronwall.  I just start thinking KH has a plan and stop using his name in vain and they get me all fired up again. 

To clarify:

I have no problem with Howard, much the same as Nyquist.  But I do not see how they are a part of the future of the organization, and as such should be treated as assets and sold off at the highest point for the largest gain. 

If they had a number 2 that was making around a million, I wouldnt have an issue.  Not many teams pay 6MM+ for goalies where one isn’t a stand out number1 making most of it.  This year we are at 8.3MM.

Posted by murph1jj on 11/07/18 at 06:22 PM ET


It better be cheap. Tying up money in 2 goalies is insane.

Posted by Probie4Prez on 11/07/18 at 06:24 PM ET

Hootinani's avatar

The easy way is the Holland way.

Posted by Hootinani from the parade following Babs out of town on 11/07/18 at 06:53 PM ET

Primis's avatar

Posted by murph1jj on 11/07/18 at 05:22 PM ET

What is your alternative to Howard then?  As has been pointed out, there is nobody in the pipeline coming up in the next couple of years.  Would you prefer DET let Howard go and sign a UFA?

Posted by Primis on 11/07/18 at 07:14 PM ET

damndog revenge   From the bowels of Detroit's avatar

I like Jimmy he’s been good he’s had he’s had his ups and downs but he’s injured often is it worth locking money up for injury-prone goalie?

UFA goalies 2019

Posted by damndog revenge From the bowels of Detroit on 11/07/18 at 07:52 PM ET


Love Jimmy, but I hate that they are talking about this now. We need flexibility over a good goalie. If this is for 3 million a year? Alright, I guess? But signing him before the summer, and especially before the trade deadline does nothing but handicap our possibilities. Would we rather have Jimmy at (I’m guessing) 4+ million for two more years? Or can we instead trade for a one or two year cap dump + assets, and go with non-goalie-of-the-future to share the net with Bernier? And with two NHL goalies signed, that camp dump almost certainly cannot be a goalie.

The fact that this is coming up now puts a bad taste in my mouth. Though I think he is underrated, having a cheap goaltender duo in the near future is most likely better for the team in the near term (options) and long term (what those options turn into). This two year deal probably won’t be expensive, but it likely will hinder our options.

Not the end of the world, but the timing suggests shortsightedness in my opinion.

Posted by petesrw on 11/07/18 at 09:00 PM ET

bigfrog's avatar

He’s 34.  I’d say a 2-year deal is reasonable, and 3 years would be a stretch but not outrageous given DET’s lack of goalies in the pipeline.  Anything else would start to be outrageous.

Jimmy’s earned 2-3 more years.

I agree. While some posters disagree, Howard has been steady the past couple of years, so a contract extension (at the right price) seems reasonable. smile

Posted by bigfrog on 11/07/18 at 09:15 PM ET

Royal Grand Exalted PooBah's avatar

Why not trade an aging goalie at the deadline and use the cap space and picks to grab some rebuilding talent throuh the draft. Yzerman can’t come soon enough.

Posted by Royal Grand Exalted PooBah from the basement of the Alamo on 11/07/18 at 09:25 PM ET

ilovehomers's avatar

Trade him for a chance at a cup at the deadline. Bring him back at a discounted 1 or 2 year deal.

Cup winners draft their goalies. None of our guys will be ready

Posted by ilovehomers on 11/07/18 at 09:29 PM ET


Howard seems to be good complacency and apathy. I suspect he is one of those who demotivate others in the locker room.

Posted by tutoka on 11/07/18 at 11:00 PM ET


But signing him before the summer, and especially before the trade deadline does nothing but handicap our possibilities

Totally agree. Maybe we will get a great offer for him at the deadline. There is no rush, teams are not lining up to sign him this summer.

Posted by VPalmer on 11/07/18 at 11:24 PM ET


Holland is in the loyalty business. Also sometimes hockey.

He’s homegrown and familiar and a good soldier.
Doesn’t make too many unforced errors. And he wants to stay.
That’s enough for Holland.

At this point there is no real benefit to getting bent out of shape.
We could all pretty much see this coming a mile away and HSJ
telegraphed it a while ago, too. She’s the one who brings the word down from the castle
so the peasants can prepare for what the king will do next.

I like Jimmy. This team is going nowhere for awhile obviously.
And he’s not going to rock the boat. Maybe a GM would have stepped up and offered a
good pick but Howard has been too up and down and not quite enough of difference maker for him to be too coveted by a contender. Holland probably figures he got his #3 for the guy he didn’t care for and that’s enough change in the crease for now.

Posted by lefty.30 on 11/08/18 at 02:31 AM ET


It’s way too early to be having this conversation.  What’s the rush?

Posted by Steve1306 on 11/08/18 at 10:03 AM ET


If this was a possibility, it was a colossal mistake to sign Bernier to a 3 year deal.

I’d much rather see Howard moved for future assets and either re-sign him over the summer or pull another goalie off the scrap heap over the summer.

Howard doesn’t turn 35 until AFTER the trade deadline. So, there seems to be no benefit to taking this action now. I’m going to puke if a contract extension includes a no-trade / no-movement clause.

Posted by evileye on 11/08/18 at 10:21 AM ET


What’s the rush?

Gotta get another worthless loyalty contract signed before Stevie steps in and starts cleaning house.

Posted by CharDeeMacDennis on 11/08/18 at 10:21 AM ET

MurrayChadwick's avatar

WTF? Why did they sign Bernier for 3 years at a premium if they were not going to trade Jimmy at the deadline?  We’re going to have star money tied up in a goalie tandem?

I get it that Jimmy has been one of our best players, sans larkin, and I would’ve been fine re-upping him, if we didn’t sign Bernier, but that wast the trade off, Bernier for $3MM vs. Howards @ $6MM and hopefully a pick!

Posted by MurrayChadwick from Holland Hate Hyperbole Town (HHHT) on 11/08/18 at 10:46 AM ET


Posted by Primis on 11/07/18 at 06:14 PM ET

I have no problem with Howard.  Why did we sign Bernier to a 3x3 if resigning Howard was in the “Plan”?  We could have picked up someone for 1mm or less if this was the case.  Someone with potential upside that we could have been talking about moving at the deadline.  But we didn’t. 

There shouldn’t be a hint of an extension prior to the deadline.  EVERY vet should be open and available if the right offer comes along. 

The fact that we are talking about this in November is asinine.

very few teams have 8.3MM of cap space tied up without one of them being a franchise type player.

This is the old school Ken Holland model.  As far as options, I believe there are plenty of UFA options that are available this summer to bridge us, Including Howard, after we try to move him at the deadline. 

If we have nobody in the pipeline that appears to be Starter material, then we need to explore younger goalies that may be available to give them a cheap try.  But continuing the aging trend gives us nothing in the future.

Posted by murph1jj on 11/08/18 at 11:34 AM ET


Why did we sign Bernier to a 3x3 if resigning Howard was in the “Plan”?

Because the proper way to rebuild is to spend as much as possible on goaltending that will be irrelevant in a couple years. Duh.

Posted by CharDeeMacDennis on 11/08/18 at 01:13 PM ET

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