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Don’t Be Fooled By The Score

 

Below, the local media with their game report

from Ted Kulfan of the Detroit News,

“Sometimes the score indicates a game, sometimes it doesn’t and I don’t think it did (Sunday). We had chances. We didn’t score, and they scored, and that’s the difference in the game.”

Patric Hornqvist had two goals, and Sam Lafferty, Kris Letang (power play) and Sidney Crosby had the others, as the Penguins rolled.

Goalie Jimmy Howard started but couldn’t finish the second period, allowing four goals on 16 shots and watching his record fall to a startling 2-22-2.

“I made the decision to pull him,” Blashill said.

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from Helene St. James of the Detroit Free Press,

The Detroit Red Wings sound exasperated and exhausted as the blowout losses pile up.

They have a day to recover and reflect before their next game, at home against the Montreal Canadiens, the only team whose number the Wings have had this season. Mostly the numbers have been against them; Sunday it was a 5-1 loss to the Penguins at PP&G Paints Arena, though coach Jeff Blashill vehemently painted a better picture than the score.

The Wings went 0-4 on a trip that also stopped in Buffalo, New Jersey and Boston, scoring five goals and surrendering 16. Luke Glendening said he was at a loss after Saturday’s 4-1 loss to the Bruins, and tried to provide an answer Sunday after the league-worst Wings fell to 14-43-4 and their goal differential reached minus-106, an astonishing 61 goals worse than the second worst team.

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Kate from PA now in SC-made in Detroit's avatar

Blashill is delusional.

Posted by Kate from PA now in SC-made in Detroit on 02/16/20 at 07:48 PM ET

bigfrog's avatar

Pittsburgh had finishers while Detroit didn’t is what Blashill was saying. LOL

Posted by bigfrog on 02/16/20 at 08:05 PM ET

Down River Dan's avatar

When asked by a Detroit reporter

Would love to know who this may have been?
It doesn’t sound like any of the usual deep diggers.

Posted by Down River Dan on 02/16/20 at 08:12 PM ET

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DRD, the usual 3 were in attendance. HSJ, Kulfan and Wakij.  Don’t think any other locals would travel to Pittsburgh to cover the game.

Posted by Paul from Motown Area on 02/16/20 at 08:16 PM ET

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Blashill is delusional.

Posted by Kate from PA now in SC-made in Detroit on 02/16/20 at 06:48 PM ET

Yeah.  The eye test agrees with that assessment.

Posted by Primis on 02/16/20 at 08:41 PM ET

Paul's avatar

DRD, it was HSJ, listen here.

Posted by Paul from Motown Area on 02/16/20 at 09:09 PM ET

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“Ignore what you saw, because what you actually saw never really happened!”

Sounds about right. Let’s cut the crap, Blash, and tell it like it really is. It’s fair to say they made the most of their chances and we didn’t, but it’s just as fair to say that they were just the better team and we stink.

Is it over yet?

Posted by Alan from Atlanta on 02/16/20 at 09:14 PM ET

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Seems like he’s long-since run out of things to say and it was never a huge repertoire.

4-1, 4-1, 5-1…

It’s like he’s reaching for any way not to lose the team completely
(Howard at this point is done and can more safely be singled-out)
by trying to convince reporters, himself, players, that there’s something
positive to try and replicate, because he knows that unless the opponent turns in a terrible performance and/or Bernier stands on his head, the ugly result of each game is going to be the same.

 

Posted by lefty.30 on 02/16/20 at 10:17 PM ET

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Truly baffling to me that he is still the coach here.

Pittsburgh took their foot off the gas in the third and his assessment is we played even except for goaltending?

Does anyone really believe that he is getting the absolute best out of this roster?

Baffling.

Posted by Ventr on 02/16/20 at 10:40 PM ET

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I’m recalibrating 4-1 to be my new 0-0. If they lose by less than 3, it’s a win. If they score more than three, automatic W.

Posted by Unhealthy Scratch on 02/16/20 at 10:41 PM ET

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I think what he really meant to say here is that Howard sucks, gave up his usual 4 goals and wishes GMSY would get him some help in goal.  Yes, the defense in front of him sucks (especially Bowey and Mike “only here for the” Green) but playing behind the same team Bernier only managed to give up 1 goal. (Also managed to win 12 games to Howards 2).  Lets face it, Howard shouldn’t even be playing in the NHL right now and it is not helping the team who obviously has no confidence in is ability now.  I think we should at least send him to the AHL and bring up Picard, he can’t do any worse than Howard is this season.

Posted by AzWingsFan on 02/16/20 at 10:48 PM ET

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This team has been getting killed all season.

None of us can fire the coach…

Posted by ilovehomers on 02/16/20 at 11:05 PM ET

Down River Dan's avatar

I’m not a fan of Blashhill, but I’m beginning to feel badly for him. This team is a Trainwreck bereft of talent, and with one goalie who shouldn’t be playing in the NHL.

I get that the plan was to be bad this year. Well, they’ve accomplished that. The next worst team is now almost uncatchable.

It’s now time to bench/waive Howard, Nielsen, Abdelkader, Green, Daley, Filpulla.

Glendening and Helm have some value as tradeable assets (might have to eat some of Helms Salary, but he’s got value).

Bring up a combination of young guys and/or career AHL guys to finish out the last 20 games. The team won’t be much different, but you’ll get to evaluate young players , and you’ll get compete level from the AHL lifers. Which is more than you’re getting from guys like Green, and Abby.

The time for being loyal to formerly productive players should be over immediately…  confused

Posted by Down River Dan on 02/16/20 at 11:48 PM ET

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Blash decided to stop writing gibberish on the white board and just start sniffing the sharpies.

Posted by Hootinani from the parade following Babs out of town on 02/17/20 at 12:08 AM ET

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Blash is desperately trying to change the narrative of him being a bad coach. He knows he can’t blame it on the players as he’s had quality veterans (in the beginning) and young stars that have shown promise yet clear regression. The team keeps getting worse and he is desperate to avoid that label as it goes against the label he had when he was hired. So hence the get the media to talk about how close games are…not that the team keeps losing—and more importantly not improving.

2015
The Wings took a chance on an AHL coach that was next-in-line. He was given a quality assistant in Tony Granato (PK and d-men) his first year and Jim Bedard as goalie coach. Yet he choose to bring his other assistant from GR in Pat Ferschweiler (PP and forwards). He was given a team with veteran leadership of Z, Dats, Kronwall, and Brad Richards thrown-in. He got some talented young vets like Tatar, Nyquist, and Mrazek (who was primed to take over the starter role). A few talented young guns like Larkin and AA. But ended the season to the same opponent in a couple fewer playoff games with a PP that went 1 for 25 in a 5 game series—direct result of his hiring his buddy from GR.

2016
Doug Houda took over for Granato (who left for a college head coaching job). Ferschweiler was “reassigned” (replaced by John Torchetti) and Jim Bedard was let go in favor of Jeff Salajko (Mrazek’s AHL coach). Nielsen replaced Dats and Vanek replaced Richards. AA and Mantha broke out. Larkin and Mrazek regressed. Nyquist and Tatar stepped up their games. Yet the power play went from slightly above to well below league average (~15%) and Mrazek had a terrible year. John Torchetti was a veteran NHL coach having being an interim head coach on a few teams and won a cup as an assistant with the Hawks a few years earlier: but he was Blash’s 1st choice so…..again Blash deserves a large part of the blame. Holland auctioned off pieces when it was obvious the playoff streak was ending.

2017
Brand new state-of-the-art building and training center with practice rink enclosed. Houda remained. Torchetti remained.

2018
Dan Bylsma was hired after being an assistant on Blashill’s USA world team (taking over PP and forwards). Again a quality assistant coach with NHL head coaching experience. Houda remained on PK and d-men.

2019
Adam Nightingale was promoted to assistant. Bylsma and Houda remined. Yzerman was hired as the GM and immediately let Pat Ferschweiler go.

So over the course of Blashill’s first couple of years: the Wings had some talented young guns (Larkin, AA, Mantha, Hronek and I’m not including Ras as that was a NHL/Jr transfer rights issue) and they’ve each had breakout seasons—-but each of those guys has regressed over the course of their development (with Hronek showing signs particularly the last 15 games). The only young prospect that seems to be developing each season is Bertuzzi. It gets more difficult to blame assistants as being the issue esp when those hired were NHL head coaches that lead teams to the playoffs/cup.

I think everyone knows what is coming at the end of the season and Blash is trying to set the narrative for his next job.

Posted by d ca on 02/17/20 at 05:33 AM ET

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Posted by d ca on 02/17/20 at 04:33 AM ET

The best summation of Blash’s tenure I’ve read yet.

Kind of hard to argue against, is it not?

Posted by Red Winger from Sault Ste Marie, MI on 02/17/20 at 09:00 AM ET

Kate from PA now in SC-made in Detroit's avatar

Posted by d ca on 02/17/20 at 04:33 AM ET

Nicely put.

Posted by Kate from PA now in SC-made in Detroit on 02/17/20 at 10:40 AM ET

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No one seems to be able to answer this question, if you get rid of Blashill, who do you replace him with?  What coach is going to take over a team now 20 games left in the season when they can wait until the summer and have more choices?  It’s like the firing of Blashill will change the fortunes of this team immediately.  This team is awful, the defense is not even good enough for an AHL roster, no coach could have success here

Posted by bababooey on 02/17/20 at 11:45 AM ET

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That’s a good recap of what we’ve seen re: coaching personnel
and results or lack thereof.

But while it barely diminishes what’s gone wrong
or failed to improve coaching-wise, I think lots of people were
pretty delusional for a long time about how deficient this team has
been in both high-end mature talent and young impact players and prospects,
not to mention the surplus of badly fading veterans on awful contracts who
didn’t (somewhat understandably) have either the remaining ability or motivation
to produce and lead on by example on the ice on a rapidly declining team. 

Most of that is on the GM and scouts who were there through last season.
Maybe Barry Trotz could have gotten the same guys to play a more disciplined, better structured game and run through a wall for him, but he would have had the same major liabilities to work with.

Posted by lefty.30 on 02/17/20 at 12:01 PM ET

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who do you replace him with? 

I dont want success.

I want them to not lose so horribly and get outplayed every night and lose by 3+

Posted by ilovehomers on 02/17/20 at 12:58 PM ET

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No one seems to be able to answer this question, if you get rid of Blashill, who do you replace him with?  What coach is going to take over a team now 20 games left in the season when they can wait until the summer and have more choices?  It’s like the firing of Blashill will change the fortunes of this team immediately.  This team is awful, the defense is not even good enough for an AHL roster, no coach could have success here

Posted by bababooey on 02/17/20 at 10:45 AM ET

Personally, I’d do it to send a message to the young players about accountability. The realization that their next is a powerful motivating factor. For Blash, it’s not necessarily about success—-it’s about young talent development….and I just don’t see that with Blash (other than Bert as I stated).

I’d replace Blash with Bylsma on an interim basis.  That way they still have the choices in the summer—if you wanted to wait that long. I am sure they can find an ex-player to aid with coaching forwards in the meantime.

There are way too many good, proven coaches available right now to remain with Blash.  It just seems like he’s lost the locker room—just like Babcock before him. And it’s time to move on.

Posted by d ca on 02/18/20 at 12:48 AM ET

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That’s a good recap….

...I think lots of people were pretty delusional for a long time about how deficient this team has been in both high-end mature talent and young impact players and prospects,
not to mention the surplus of badly fading veterans on awful contracts…

Most of that is on the GM and scouts…

Posted by lefty.30 on 02/17/20 at 11:01 AM ET

Absolutely, I agree there were mitigating circumstances that all converged on Blash. That is why I don’t think the W-L record of the last 3 years is relevant and didn’t go into details on team performance after 2016. Instead I focused on the prospects development.

And I certainly understand the criticism that I am not accounting for these mitigating circumstances in my summary. I’ve been making those argument against Holland for so long it wore out.  I think if you’ll look back in the archives, you’ll see some of my comments when the Wings were winning playoff series that criticized the GM for some of the points you bring up. And their scouts certainly deserved to be let go because of multiple miscalls like:

Thomas McCollum instead of Jacob Markstrom or even Jake Allen. Ferraro instead of Ryan O’Reilly. Teletubby instead of Evgeny Kuznetsov. Jurco instead of Brandon Saad. All those are positional rankings not a center that turned out vs a d-man you drafted (like say Sproul vs Nikita Kucherov) which is not a fair criticism of scouts.

But I wanted to point out and stay on topic of the article about what Blash is doing to try to spin narratives and why I believe he is doing it: not to get into why the Wings fell from contenders.

I wasn’t trained to be an optimist or a pessimist where the glass was 1/2 full or 1/2 empty. I was trained that the glass was 100% full and 50% was air and 50% was water. And in taking that approach, I expect after this upcoming draft that the core of a soon-to-be future players (minus a goalie—I hope they trade for one of the Rangers Russian goalies—and they get a high enough pick in the lottery to not grab the next Carey Price) is in the organization should project to a team that can compete again. I just also realize that Blash should not have a part in the next stage of that development given his past results.

Posted by d ca on 02/18/20 at 01:50 AM ET

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