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Wings Are In The Hunt For Finnish Defenseman Oliwer Kaski

from Ansar Khan of Mlive,

The Detroit Red Wings are in the mix for a skilled Finnish defenseman and have a good chance of landing him, according to his agent.

Oliwer Kaski, a mobile, offensive-minded defenseman with good size (6-3, 187), will decide on his team shortly.

His agent, Todd Diamond, told MLive on Monday that the Red Wings “are under strong consideration and one of the finalists. Obviously, they have a very good chance. But we’ll finalize it in the next couple of days.”

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Kind of hard to see where he fits in with all of Detroit’s dmen.

Posted by howeandhowe from Seattle on 05/06/19 at 05:40 PM ET

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Kind of hard to see where he fits in with all of Detroit’s dmen.

Posted by howeandhowe from Seattle on 05/06/19 at 05:40 PM ET

perhaps it is an indicator that said depth will be thinned.

Posted by duhduhduh on 05/06/19 at 06:01 PM ET

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I really thought Sulak had potential- he was older but still had some real upside coming out of camp last year.  I know the NA game took some adjusting but hope he stays over another year

Posted by SevensForTed on 05/06/19 at 06:07 PM ET

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKbOJyjwwTM

Conveniently posted just 4 days ago.
Seems to me he has a good one-timer, heads up player. The overall game speed seems slow but this could be because of the big ice.

Posted by 0neoftheWings on 05/06/19 at 06:41 PM ET

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Thanks 0neoftheWings.

Posted by Paul from Motown Area on 05/06/19 at 06:43 PM ET

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From the article:  Sulak, 25, is a restricted free agent who is contemplating a return to Europe.

That’s too bad, Sulak can skate, plays with an edge, and deserved to, at the very least, get a post trade deadline call up.

Unfortunately, we had Green, Daley, Ericsson, and Kronwall blocking up the roster…..

sick

Posted by Down River Dan on 05/06/19 at 07:24 PM ET

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FWIW, Ansar Kahn’s response to a comment in the comments section on MLive:

HaMMeR - 3 hours ago - Get this kid signed up, Stevie.

Ansar Khan | .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) - 2 hours ago - Reply to @HaMMeR: I think he is. They just haven’t gotten around to announcing it.

Not sure what that means or how credible that is. But, it’s interesting at least.

Posted by dreamsofhope from Colorado on 05/06/19 at 08:51 PM ET

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I thought I read elsewhere that the Wings had already signed him. Bummer about Sulak; he looked good in TC and I had hoped that he would continue to develop.

Posted by Squarewheels from The Land of Unhealthy Scratching on 05/06/19 at 09:31 PM ET

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With Sulak it seems like he was an afterthought after being demoted.

Maybe they didn’t like his commitment to defense first or maybe he was frustrated to be in the minor after a hot start and it showed?

At the end there IIRC they finally called him up but he was ill and never played and that was that - window closed? He got a lot of praise from Blashil early but then it seems you heard less and less.

More to the story than meets the eye? Or the player and org both realized he was going to have to
prove his readiness in the minors and it just wasn’t worth it and this point in his career?

Posted by lefty.30 on 05/06/19 at 10:33 PM ET

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Sulak was never going to a NHL dman, not a typical 3rd pairing guy, and not good enough to be more. He can skate, and thus showed well again young talent and mixed rosters, but when face with an NHL forecheck that closed easy passing lanes, he struggled and turned a lot of pucks over.  For a fanbase that bags so much on Ericson, this guys was 2x as bad, he just was able to skate his way out of some of it.

Its funny how the narrative was this guy and that guy “blocking” his way, yet other dman with real potential came up played and stayed. He only played 6 NHL games, he had 3 more “free” games and you would’ve thought if he was going to be anything for this organization he would’ve gotten one more sniff considering the other callups and he didn’t.

Posted by MurrayChadwick from YzerGod's pixie dust fueled bandwagon on 05/06/19 at 10:37 PM ET

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Did I miss something on Sulak? Has he been let go by the Wings/Griffins?  Sounds like many of you have written his epitaph already. Since Cholo was sent down, do we do the same? Or because they are bringing in this finish player they are letting Sulak go?

Sulak may not end up being anything but an AHL player or heading back to Europe or a steady player in the NHL, who knows at this point. But to write off a 25 year old and the Wings are thin on D prospects is a little worrisome.

And Murray to compare Ericsson (two S’s) to this kid is a reach. Ericsson has been given every chance to succeed, Sulak has played 6 odd games. Ericsson has played over 600 games and has amassed (lol) and has 125pts to show.

Posted by damndog revenge From the bowels of Detroit on 05/07/19 at 07:59 AM ET

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*Finnish (damn auto correct).

Posted by damndog revenge From the bowels of Detroit on 05/07/19 at 08:00 AM ET

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This is a lot of words/comments for a kid that even if he really succeeds likely does so as a #3-6 dman. 

I just can’t bring myself to care about these sorts of signings anymore.  They’ve lost all meaning.  Hooray, another depth signing that will get frustrated in North America and go back overseas.

That’s not to say it’s a bad move, but it’s not one to get excited over at this point.  Especially since these European defensemen really seem to often have trouble adjusting to the North American rinks and what that does to the speed.

Or the player and org both realized he was going to have to
prove his readiness in the minors and it just wasn’t worth it and this point in his career?

Posted by lefty.30 on 05/06/19 at 10:33 PM ET

Probably this.  Europeans come over semi-regularly and realize they’re not just going to get thrown into the NHL because it’s a big jump in caliber and so they give up early, knowing decent pay awaits them back home overseas.  Within a year, this guy might follow Sulak back to Europe even.  Who knows???

Posted by Primis on 05/07/19 at 10:58 AM ET

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Posted by damndog revenge

Did I miss something on Sulak?

from the article… Sulak, 25, is a restricted free agent who is contemplating a return to Europe.

And Murray to compare Ericsson (two S’s) to this kid is a reach.

says the guy who in the same post relates the wings view on a 25 year old undrafted free agent to an 18 year old 1st round draft pick?

Ericsson has been given every chance to succeed,

And he did, he played a full career in the NHL, made more money that you and I can dream of playing a game. He may have done that for longer than he should’ve and for more than he should’ve made, certainly as the speed of the game caught up to him, but the dude’s an NHL dman, can’t say the same for Sulak considering Lashoff finished off the season in Detroit, Brian freakin Lashoff got preference.

Posted by MurrayChadwick from YzerGod's pixie dust fueled bandwagon on 05/07/19 at 12:40 PM ET

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And he did, he played a full career in the NHL, made more money that you and I can dream of playing a game. He may have done that for longer than he should’ve and for more than he should’ve made, certainly as the speed of the game caught up to him, but the dude’s an NHL dman, can’t say the same for Sulak considering Lashoff finished off the season in Detroit, Brian freakin Lashoff got preference.

Posted by MurrayChadwick from Holland Hate Hyperbole Town (HHHT) on 05/07/19 at 12:40 PM ET

Great agreements there Murray.

I am curious what you going to do with the HHHT worm of yours? Change it to Stevie Scorn Overstatement Town? I am hoping we can make this a fun contest. One dollar an entry and all proceeds go to Paul for this site.
I’m just messing with you of course. lol. Seriously, Are you glad Holland is leaving? Mixed feelings?

Posted by damndog revenge From the bowels of Detroit on 05/07/19 at 01:18 PM ET

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Are you glad Holland is leaving? Mixed feelings?

Posted by damndog revenge From the bowels of Detroit on 05/07/19 at 01:18 PM ET

I’m perfectly fine with Holland leaving, it was time to go, he was never so great we had to keep him, or so bad he had to be blown out, but either way, the fan base was worn out with him.  I think he’s done a nice job the minute that damn streak ended, and would would feel differently if we got some hack who came in with a need to prove myself/win now mentality.  Instead we got a real good GM, who messaged very clearly that the rebuild has foundation, but has a ways to go. 

I remain very very un-trusting of this fanbase, and how quick and vile it could turn my DRW hero if he doesn’t sprinkle his magic Captain dust, blow everyone out, and win more cups as a GM than he did player before 2025.  I care much more about that than Ken Holland staying retiring or going elsewhere.

Posted by MurrayChadwick from YzerGod's pixie dust fueled bandwagon on 05/07/19 at 05:37 PM ET

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Posted by damndog revenge From the bowels of Detroit on 05/07/19 at 01:18 PM ET

I am however upset that I’ll need to replace Holland Hate Hyperbole Town, it just fit so well with Hey Hey Hockeytown ,which always brought a smile thinking of hearing it in broken Russian.  Placeholder for now until I think of something better.

Posted by MurrayChadwick from YzerGod's pixie dust fueled bandwagon on 05/07/19 at 05:47 PM ET

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I remain very very un-trusting of this fanbase, and how quick and vile it could turn my DRW hero if he doesn’t sprinkle his magic Captain dust, blow everyone out, and win more cups as a GM than he did player before 2025.
Posted by MurrayChadwick from YzerGod’s Bandwagon on 05/07/19 at 05:47 PM ET

Yes, I agree with you there, but I think Yzergod knows what he is getting into and is not afraid of failing and if he does fail he is going to have to with stand the heat from the fan base. It sucks but it’s reality.

I am however upset that I’ll need to replace Holland Hate Hyperbole Town, it just fit so well with Hey Hey Hockeytown ,which always brought a smile thinking of hearing it in broken Russian.  Placeholder for now until I think of something better.

Posted by MurrayChadwick from YzerGod’s Bandwagon on 05/07/19 at 05:47 PM ET

You will think of something clever, that I am sure. Thanks for sharing. Good stuff!

Posted by damndog revenge From the bowels of Detroit on 05/08/19 at 07:32 AM ET

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