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Why The Wings Signed The Older Players

from Ansar Khan of Mlive,

By bringing back Mike Green and Thomas Vanek, the rebuilding Detroit Red Wings are projected to have one of the oldest rosters in the NHL.

The moves might block a younger player or two from making the team.

But general manager Ken Holland cited several reasons for wanting to sign these veterans, not the least of which is their offensive ability for a team that ranked 28th in the NHL in goals per game.

Vanek, 34, signed a one-year contract for $3 million, after producing 24 goals and 56 points for Vancouver and Columbus last season.

"When we had him the season before, he was very popular in the locker room. The players looked up to him," Holland said. "We signed him to score goals, but he's as good a playmaker as he is a goal-scorer. He's a big body. He's going to be good on the power play as a net-front presence. He shoots right. We don't have a lot of right-hand shooters up front."

The Red Wings wanted to sign him a year ago but didn't have the cap space.

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The Red Wings wanted to sign him a year ago but didn’t have the cap space.


So better rush out on July 1 and lock him up before those pesky RFAs take all of the valuable cap space.

Posted by Manthanasiou87 on 07/04/18 at 09:22 AM ET

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Caputo nailed it yesterday.  Nothing left to say.  KH idea of rebuild is silly.  He locks up 4 line character guys and tries to sprinkle skill in there instead of trying to hoard skill and sprinkling character guys.

Abby 4m, Helm almost 4m.  That’s 8m for 60 points and veteran presence.

How come our home grown veterans cant mentor our kids?  Why did we spend so much money to keep our homegrown character guys?  We trade our leading goal scorer the past 3 seasons who’s what, 27? 

Rebuild?

Posted by ThatGuy on 07/04/18 at 10:22 AM ET

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I wonder if vanek’s one dimensional play, and his mentoring of kids last time, is some of the problem the wings have getting AA and Mantha to play 200’ games.

Posted by akwingsfan on 07/04/18 at 11:09 AM ET

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How come our home grown veterans cant mentor our kids

And how come our kids need to be 200-foot players but the high-priced veterans blocking their way don’t have to be?

Posted by CharDeeMacDennis on 07/04/18 at 02:16 PM ET

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Alright.  So I was watching The Hockey Guys breakdown of Vancouver this year.  I’ve always felt Vancouver and Detroit are in extremely similar situations. 

He mentioned this is the first official year of a rebuild that should be started a while ago because it’s the first year the Sedins are gone.

My guess is that if Z decides to play they want to at least give him a team with a shot at making the playoffs.  They did that with all the known quantities they brought back.

They’re posturing for a rebuild but our official rebuild wont start until Z retires.

Just dont tell me the team will look different or you’ll have 5 kids playing.

Posted by ThatGuy on 07/04/18 at 05:09 PM ET

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I wonder if vanek’s one dimensional play, and his mentoring of kids last time, is some of the problem the wings have getting AA and Mantha to play 200’ games.

Posted by akwingsfan on 07/04/18 at 12:09 PM ET

I mean…. in his previous DET stint, Vanek played a pretty solid all-around game.  For all the flak he’d taken about not playing defense, he got back on defense and played hard, and even played a fierce net-front game.  He seemed to have no problem doing dirty work.  People were pretty happy with what he did, and some were even against DET trading him away at the deadline.

Posted by Primis on 07/04/18 at 06:24 PM ET

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My guess is that if Z decides to play they want to at least give him a team with a shot at making the playoffs.

What does that have to do with signing Vanek and re-signing Green?

Posted by CharDeeMacDennis on 07/04/18 at 09:57 PM ET

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Like I’ve said before, forwards need to play a 200’ game and be good defensively to cover for our defensemen who can’t play defense. Don’t get me wrong a 200’ game is important, but with forwards in deep and lose possession our defense offers little resistance to a breakout. At one point Neilsen-Vanek-AA put up some good numbers, but we’re rebuilding and they need to make a good young line. I liked the Mantha-Larkin-AA line, but it only lasted a couple shifts. Like Bert but he has a problem with finishing. Not sure about From yet, half his goals were PPGs, and we rode countless PP opportunities in the ground just trying to set up his shot. Hopefully Blashill will start out and finish like a coach this year, by honing players skills and not stifling them.

Posted by stateofmifan on 07/05/18 at 10:30 PM ET

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... about Frk yet…
When I need this autocorrect, it’s out to lunch.

Posted by stateofmifan on 07/05/18 at 10:35 PM ET

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