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Who’s The Backup Goalie And Trade For Dahlin?

Helene St. James of the Detroit Free Press answered a few questions today.

You'll know the question by her answer or read the headline.

HSJ: They’ll have to sign a goaltender, because there’s no one in the system ready to promote to back up Jimmy Howard. I know they like Carter Hutton, a 32-year-old who went 17-7-3 with a 2.09 goals-against average and .931 save percentage in 32 games with St. Louis. He’s coming off a two-year, $2.25 million contract, and if he can be had for just a bit of a raise, that’d be a good fit. 

HSJ: I’ve received variations on this questions since the night of the draft lottery, and my answer is — why would Buffalo give up Rasmus Dahlin for anything? Package the pick at sixth, Anthony Mantha, Dennis Cholowski, Tyler Bertuzzi — that’d be a ransom’s price and still, why would the Sabres surrender a draft pick who is considered a generational player, and a defenseman at that? The Sabres get to build around Dahlin, Jack Eichel and Rasmus Ristolainen for the next decade. That’s now their fortune, after seven straight seasons of missing the playoffs, six straight seasons of finishing in the bottom third, and finishing last in the NHL three of the most recent five seasons.

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Wait, you mean it doesn’t work like the late 90s video games where you could trade 3 guys with a 33 rating for one guy with a 99 rating?

Posted by Steve1306 on 05/09/18 at 02:04 PM ET

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Package the pick at sixth, Anthony Mantha, Dennis Cholowski, Tyler Bertuzzi — that’d be a ransom’s price

THAT would be a ransom price for a potential franchise defenseman? That’s hilarious. I guess it’s not just Ken Holland who ridiculously and hilariously overvalues Detroit’s prospects.

Add in Vegas’s pick and the best of Detroit’s second rounders and Dylan Larkin and whoever their best prospect is and *maybe* Ken Holland wouldn’t be laughed off the phone immediately.

Posted by CharDeeMacDennis on 05/09/18 at 02:18 PM ET

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He’s coming off a two-year, $2.25 million contract, and if he can be had for just a bit of a raise, that’d be a good fit. 

How about not spending that kind of money on a backup for a team that has approximately a ZERO percent chance of making the playoffs next year?

How about trying to spend cap space wisely, instead of the current trend of rewarding mediocrity?

Posted by CharDeeMacDennis on 05/09/18 at 02:21 PM ET

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How about trying to spend cap space wisely, instead of the current trend of rewarding mediocrity?

Posted by CharDeeMacDennis on 05/09/18 at 03:21 PM ET

As long as its a short term deal and doesnt effect resigning the rfa’s, what does it matter? In a case like this, you’re not rewarding anything. You’re filling a need with the most talented player you can get at market value. If they hand out a 5 year deal or some such nonsense, that’s the time to start bitching.

Rewarding mediocrity would be giving Coreau an NHL deal of any kind.

Posted by Hootinani from the parade following Babs out of town on 05/09/18 at 03:13 PM ET

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Any free agent over the age of 30 who wants more than a 1 year deal should be a complete non-starter.

  Package the pick at sixth, Anthony Mantha, Dennis Cholowski, Tyler Bertuzzi — that’d be a ransom’s price

THAT would be a ransom price for a potential franchise defenseman? That’s hilarious. I guess it’s not just Ken Holland who ridiculously and hilariously overvalues Detroit’s prospects.

Add in Vegas’s pick and the best of Detroit’s second rounders and Dylan Larkin and whoever their best prospect is and *maybe* Ken Holland wouldn’t be laughed off the phone immediately.

I’ve never understood why people seem to legitimately hate HSJ, but reading that hypothetical offer for Dahlin was one of the dumbest hockey-related posts I’ve ever seen.

Posted by godblender on 05/09/18 at 03:49 PM ET

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Actually I should’ve amended that to say, any free agent should be a non-starter since as it is Detroit is going to have a hell of a time resigning their own players who are actually worth a shit.

Posted by godblender on 05/09/18 at 03:51 PM ET

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As long as its a short term deal and doesnt effect resigning the rfa’s, what does it matter? In a case like this, you’re not rewarding anything. You’re filling a need with the most talented player you can get at market value. If they hand out a 5 year deal or some such nonsense, that’s the time to start bitching.

Rewarding mediocrity would be giving Coreau an NHL deal of any kind.

Posted by Hootinani from the parade following Babs out of town on 05/09/18 at 04:13 PM ET

+19.

Posted by Primis on 05/09/18 at 04:43 PM ET

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Actually I should’ve amended that to say, any free agent should be a non-starter since as it is Detroit is going to have a hell of a time resigning their own players who are actually worth a shit.

Then who exactly is their backup goalie? Unless I’m missing something the Wings only have Howard under contract next season. They’ll have to sign a free agent. The key is to sign someone short-term and low dollar perhaps with some upside.

They should have enough money to sign their own free agents. $16M ought to be enough for Larkin, Mantha, AA, Bertuzzi and Frk. The key is not to spend too much on defense.

If I’m Holland I make Larkin and Mantha first priority. Grab a cheap backup goaltender as soon as one becomes available and then wait out filling out the rest of the roster until the rest of the RFAs are settled. Replacing Green is going to be tough but I’d rather play a youngster than overpay for that slot right now.

Posted by evileye on 05/10/18 at 09:16 AM ET

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A backup goalie is the only free agent signing that would make any sense. There is no one in the system, that I’m aware of anyways, that is ready and waiting for the opportunity to push Howard. They’ve ran with McCollum and Coreau in Grand Rapids for two years so even if someone who was worth something was ready, they wouldn’t have had any significant pro experience. Signing a back up for two years is a fine move, just stay away from every other position.

Posted by Manthanasiou87 on 05/10/18 at 10:19 AM ET

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