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“We’ll See” Soon Enough

from Ted Kulfan of the Detroit News,

With an expanding list of young players looking for jobs in the NHL – and the Wings having missed the playoffs the last two seasons –  a shifting roster is going to continue to change.

“This is going to be a competitive camp for a variety of reasons,” general manager Ken Holland said. “We want the young kids to push for a spot on the team. I’m holding a spot on the back end and I’m holding a spot or two, maybe three, up front.

“But they have to earn it. I just can’t throw out a Kiddie Corps out there. I’m hoping some of these kids we have to send back, that they’re ready, and they’re going to be up here as the year wears on.”

Holland also sees plenty of competition among returning veterans.

“There’s internal competition,” Holland said. “We’re in rebuild mode and there’s going to be more opportunity. I’m hoping for young people (to claim some jobs) but if they don’t, the veterans who are here will have to.

“Some of these veterans maybe haven’t been doing these jobs (special teams, scoring lines) and maybe they pick up the responsibility because the kids haven’t grabbed it.

“We’ll see.”


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Wings_in_NYC's avatar

Nope. You can’t have a Kiddie Corps., but a broken down Vet Corps works.

Posted by Wings_in_NYC on 09/12/18 at 04:03 PM ET

Royal Grand Exalted PooBah's avatar

I would be offended if I was called part of the Kiddie Corps.

Posted by Royal Grand Exalted PooBah from the basement of the Alamo on 09/12/18 at 05:09 PM ET

Red Winger's avatar

Holland definitely sounds like a guy who thinks it’s 1995 all over again

Posted by Red Winger from Sault Ste Marie, MI on 09/12/18 at 05:19 PM ET


Bunch of nonsense again. Competition among veterans? For what? They are all guaranteed a spot because they have contracts. And rookies have to earn it. OK, agree, But what if Veleno outplays Glendening in camp? What if Ras outplays Helm? What is Zadina outplays Nyquist.? The rookies are going to take veterans’ spots? Not in a 1000years, so why even talk about it.

Posted by VPalmer on 09/12/18 at 07:58 PM ET


I look forward to Stever Yzerman (or anyone, frankly) being GM next year and actually, finally starting the rebuild that Ken Holland keeps pretending he’s going to start and then goes out and signs some more veterans instead.

Posted by CharDeeMacDennis on 09/13/18 at 08:33 AM ET


Not in a 1000years, so why even talk about it.

Because he’s a liar and thinks the fanbase is stupid.

Posted by CharDeeMacDennis on 09/13/18 at 08:33 AM ET


Barring injury, I only see 2 forward spots open, with Ras and Zadina most likely to fill them. Where does Holland get off saying 3 or 4. It’s not like he’s going to put a kiddie in the 13th/14th forward spot. It’s not like he is going to waive Glendening. I don’t think he’d trade Vanek or Nyquist just to make room for a kiddie. IOW, he’s full of it.

There is also only 1 spot available on defense. Once again a kiddie isn’t going to fill the #7 role. Unless he waives/trades Jensen AND one of the vets is relegated to #7, there isn’t a second spot available. IOW, he’s full of it.

13 -  Frk
14 - Witkowski

7 - Jensen

Posted by evileye on 09/13/18 at 12:05 PM ET

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