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Videos- It Was Ugly, Game Highlights And Jeff Blashill After The Loss

from Helene St. James of the Detroit Free Press,

The Detroit Red Wings left the first game of their weekend excursion against the Tampa Bay Lightning on Saturday saying they had to play better.

They found a way to look worse — much worse — on Sunday. Facing a fellow lottery-bound opponent Sunday afternoon at BB&T Center, the Wings were routed by the Florida Panthers, 6-1.

There was no support for Jimmy Howard, just as there was none for Jonathan Bernier the night before. The Panthers reached double digits in shots in every period. The Wings had three in the first, eight in the second. Final shots were 43-20.

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Below, watch the game highlights and Jeff Blashill post-game.

 

 

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Every team that plays the wings tight with a continual fore check completely stifles this team. Can’t exit our defensive zone, can’t complete a pass. Zero defense and zero offense. This isn’t being tired as much as it is from a losing game strategy.  Players slinging the puck around the boards hoping to get it to another player.

Posted by stateofmifan on 03/10/19 at 09:24 PM ET

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Maybe it’s because this roster, which was bad to start with, has been decimated. Seriously. No Larkin, Greene, Nyquist or Jensen. On a team that was already bad you’ve lost two of the 3 best forwards, the highest scoring defenseman, and the best defenseman by fancy stats.
Could the worst roster in the NHL have an impact on results? Apparently not…

Posted by teldar on 03/11/19 at 07:28 AM ET

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Addendum.
AA the team’s best forward last night?
Then… Bert? Vanek? Abdelgator? Helm? Mantha? Zadina? Bunch of Superstars there.

That group of forwards isn’t winning anything. Mantha, Zadina and Bert are the only ones you might really want in the top 6. Two of them should probably be fourth line. One maybe on the third. How would you coach this group to win games in the NHL?

Posted by teldar on 03/11/19 at 07:36 AM ET

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How would you coach this group to win games in the NHL?

Blash? Is that you?

I bet you there is a coach out there looking for a job right who could show this crew how to complete a pass at least.

Posted by Hootinani from the parade following Babs out of town on 03/11/19 at 08:01 AM ET

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Posted by teldar on 03/11/19 at 07:36 AM ET

EXACTLY

Blash? Is that you?

I bet you there is a coach out there looking for a job right who could show this crew how to complete a pass at least.

Posted by Hootinani from the parade following Babs out of town on 03/11/19 at 08:01 AM ET

Real mature.

This team had low level of talent to start the year and wasn’t going anywhere in terms of standings and after trading some key pieces away and your top players going down to injury, this is what you get. Blash may not be a great coach, but this team just doesn’t have the talent to compete.

Posted by George0211 on 03/11/19 at 08:09 AM ET

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Posted by teldar on 03/11/19 at 07:28 AM ET

You left out that a pure rookie is playing in our top pair, and a 7 game rookie in our top 6.

Posted by MurrayChadwick from YzerGod's pixie dust fueled bandwagon on 03/11/19 at 08:25 AM ET

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FANS:  “This team is terrible.  Awful.  The roster is abysmal.  They need to lose a ton.”
TEAM:  *loses a ton, sometimes badly*
FANS:  “Oh my God, what is wrong with these guys?  Why are they so bad?  Why don’t they play better?!”

Posted by Primis on 03/11/19 at 10:40 AM ET

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Posted by teldar on 03/11/19 at 07:28 AM ET

You left out that a pure rookie is playing in our top pair, and a 7 game rookie in our top 6.

Posted by MurrayChadwick from Holland Hate Hyperbole Town (HHHT) on 03/11/19 at 08:25 AM ET

In his defense, Hronek hasn’t been as bad as I feared he could be getting promoted so fast to top pair responsibilities.  Nobody should put that on him, but he’s handling it ok.

Posted by duhduhduh on 03/11/19 at 10:42 AM ET

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Could the worst roster in the NHL have an impact on results?

Cute.

Let’s keep trotting out as many excuses as we can to let the coach off the hook.

FANS:  “This team is terrible.  Awful.  The roster is abysmal.  They need to lose a ton.”
TEAM:  *loses a ton, sometimes badly*
FANS:  “Oh my God, what is wrong with these guys?  Why are they so bad?  Why don’t they play better?!”

Find a single person who said that please.

Just one.

Posted by CharDeeMacDennis on 03/11/19 at 10:56 AM ET

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Blash may not be a great coach, but this team just doesn’t have the talent to compete.

Bull.

They have the talent to compete, but they have a coach who chooses to play bottom six players more minutes than some of their skilled players.

Period.

This team obviously isn’t going to win the Cup, but they should absolutely not be the second worst team in the league.

And with the additions of young, skilled players coming onto the roster in the last couple years the team should not be trending down the toilet.

That’s the fault of the GM and coach.

AND.

Posted by CharDeeMacDennis on 03/11/19 at 11:00 AM ET

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Posted by CharDeeMacDennis on 03/11/19 at 11:00 AM ET

I saw multiple projection efforts at the beginning of the year that had us bottom 5.  Especially when Z went on LTIR.

Posted by duhduhduh on 03/11/19 at 11:03 AM ET

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Posted by CharDeeMacDennis on 03/11/19 at 11:00 AM ET
“Blash may not be a great coach, but this team just doesn’t have the talent to compete.”

What was the excuse when we had Pavel and Z? He was learning on the job I think I recall.

Posted by damndog revenge From the bowels of Detroit on 03/11/19 at 11:13 AM ET

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Posted by CharDeeMacDennis on 03/11/19 at 11:00 AM ET

Are you delusional? No one in their right mind expected this team to be any better than bottom 5 or 6.
This team started the season with 3 or 4 rookies on D. Had this team been healthier than they were, especially on D and no traded away Jensen and Nyquist, they probably would be slightly better in the standings than they are now but not by much.

Blashill deserves a fair share of the blame, just as KH does, but also the players.

Posted by George0211 on 03/11/19 at 11:15 AM ET

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Since losing is good we have the right coach for the job.

Posted by Ventr on 03/11/19 at 11:25 AM ET

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They have the talent to compete, but they have a coach who chooses to play bottom six players more minutes than some of their skilled players.

This is such a tired argument.

Larkin: 21:51
Nyquist: 18:07
Mantha: 17:32
Nielsen: 16:53
AA: 16:30
Bertuzzi: 16:05

That’s your top 6 in ice time this season.

Posted by hockeyfreak13 from Grand Rapids on 03/11/19 at 11:53 AM ET

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Posted by CharDeeMacDennis on 03/11/19 at 11:00 AM ET
“Blash may not be a great coach, but this team just doesn’t have the talent to compete.”

What was the excuse when we had Pavel and Z? He was learning on the job I think I recall.

Posted by damndog revenge From the bowels of Detroit on 03/11/19 at 11:13 AM ET

What was Babcock’s excuse then? This team was steadily trending downwards with Pav and Z under Babcock.

Posted by George0211 on 03/11/19 at 11:53 AM ET

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Posted by CharDeeMacDennis on 03/11/19 at 11:00 AM ET
“Blash may not be a great coach, but this team just doesn’t have the talent to compete.”

What was the excuse when we had Pavel and Z? He was learning on the job I think I recall.

Posted by damndog revenge From the bowels of Detroit on 03/11/19 at 11:13 AM ET

What was Babcock’s excuse then? This team was steadily trending downwards with Pav and Z under Babcock.

Posted by George0211 on 03/11/19 at 11:53 AM ET

This discussion is HHHT at its finest. You guys do realize that, while we had Pav and Hank, they were no longer in their prime? That we had no young talent back filling positions in our top 6 and top 4 because we had traded away our picks and prospects early the Babcock tenure?

And then for some reason, this town thought if we got rid of the most sought after free agent coach that season, had his shoe was pried out of some tender b’holes, and switched to a rookie NHL head coach, while this team aged, while Holland had to beg Pavel to finish the deal he demanded, that this team would be better? HAHAHAHAHA only in “hockeytown”

Posted by MurrayChadwick from YzerGod's pixie dust fueled bandwagon on 03/11/19 at 12:15 PM ET

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This discussion is HHHT at its finest. You guys do realize that, while we had Pav and Hank, they were no longer in their prime?
Posted by MurrayChadwick from Holland Hate Hyperbole Town (HHHT) on 03/11/19 at 12:15 PM ET

Rationalization at Murray’s finest. lol

If you look at both Z’s and Pavel’s stats pre-Blashell and with Blashell it really tells the story. Z had 68pts in the 2016-17 top 5 total of his career.

So once again Murray good try, but sadly the facts stack up against your off the hip comments. But Z was no longer in his prime! LOL. Boy, SMH.

I think your new handle should be MC Holland and the Apologist Crew!

Posted by damndog revenge From the bowels of Detroit on 03/11/19 at 12:25 PM ET

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To MC Holland and the Apologist Crew!

Here is a challenge if you would like to embark:
1. Since 2010 season, what has been Ken Hollands Top 3 FA signings?
2. Since 2010 Season, what has been the Top 3 Trades for players (not picks as in the Tatar trade. A player or players.).

I feel Holland Co. has done decently well in the draft, especially considering their draft positions up until the last 3 seasons.

Thanks for playing.

 

Posted by damndog revenge From the bowels of Detroit on 03/11/19 at 12:44 PM ET

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Posted by damndog revenge From the bowels of Detroit on 03/11/19 at 12:25 PM ET

So “prime” is 34 and up? I guess I won’t be hearing from you if Holland goes out and bags himself a 35 year old free agent. Surely your on board to bring back Kronner I guess. And you toss out a season for 1 player and 2 years later both players are retired?  Got me there, good facts.

And I guess I have to explain this yet again, I’m not a Holland guy, could care less keep him fire him, I don’t think he’s done a great job, but I also don’t consider him to be the dumpster fire everyone claims him to be.

 

Posted by MurrayChadwick from YzerGod's pixie dust fueled bandwagon on 03/11/19 at 12:59 PM ET

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Hoot

Do you really think it’s the coach’s responsibility to teach an NHL player how to make a pass? Shouldn’t they know something from at least a decade of playing? Execution isn’t on the coach. Games plan is. My point is that this is not a group of guys who are going to execute at a high level. Anytime still thinking this team should be winning night in and out is delusional.

Posted by teldar on 03/11/19 at 01:23 PM ET

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FANS:  “This team is terrible.  Awful.  The roster is abysmal.  They need to lose a ton.”
TEAM:  *loses a ton, sometimes badly*
FANS:  “Oh my God, what is wrong with these guys?  Why are they so bad?  Why don’t they play better?!”

Find a single person who said that please.

Just one.

Half the fans of this team. See the first person who posted on this article, most likely.

Posted by teldar on 03/11/19 at 01:27 PM ET

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Addendum again.
You can add Hootinani, who thinks Blashill controls how will the players make passes,  to this list.

Posted by teldar on 03/11/19 at 01:28 PM ET

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Posted by MurrayChadwick from Holland Hate Hyperbole Town (HHHT) on 03/11/19 at 12:59 PM ET

Prime to me obscure title to attach to any player. I think production would be a better indication of where a player is at or has been. If it wasn’t for Z’s back mostly like he still would be playing thus extending his “Prime” Window.

The two players I “threw out” are from my original post you remarked on. Shall I pick another two to satisfy you?

Posted by damndog revenge From the bowels of Detroit on 03/11/19 at 01:56 PM ET

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Man, if this is how the conversation is going in mid-March, it’s going to be a freaking long summer around here.

Posted by TreKronor on 03/11/19 at 02:09 PM ET

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Pav and Zee in their latter years were still better than like 95% of the forwards in this league. Crosby and Malkin are in their 30’s, no longer in their prime, but still better than 95% of the forwards in this league. Ovechkin and Backstrom are in their 30’s, past their prime, but both just won the Cup. The Sharks should just forfeit with Burns at 34, Pavelski at 34, Thornton at 39. Haha.

Or maybe superstars like this can remain very effective despite technically producing less than in their “prime” years?

Posted by rogerrab on 03/11/19 at 02:17 PM ET

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Posted by damndog revenge From the bowels of Detroit on 03/11/19 at 01:56 PM ET

I’m unsure you and I are debating the same thing, let me reset the gist of my original thought..

1) Near the end of the Babcock tenure Pav and Z were no longer prime superstars. Top end guys, still producing, sure, but not guys driving the bus night in night out to cup or deep playoff contention, coupled with the lack of talented youth teams can usually layer in. IMO that’s the payback for 20+ years of contention, and the backside of prime age contracts to both of those guys and others.

Then…

2) Why anyone thought that going from Babcock to Blashill would improve this team as a whole was stupid IMO. Babcock squeezed this team into post seasons when we didn’t belong, and was being called on like a star free agent player, signed the richest deal, while Blash was an NHL rookie.  Someone also mentioned at the time that some players might not play hard for Blash having been promoted from GR before him.

Then you start talking about how Hank has a great regular season, ok…

 

Posted by MurrayChadwick from YzerGod's pixie dust fueled bandwagon on 03/11/19 at 02:18 PM ET

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Posted by TreKronor on 03/11/19 at 02:09 PM ET

Especially with someone coming back. Ugh

Posted by ilovehomers on 03/11/19 at 02:19 PM ET

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Posted by teldar on 03/11/19 at 01:23 PM ET
I feel it’s the coaches responsibility to make sure players know how to pass and be in position so they have the best chance to make a high completion percentage pass. Defensemen that go to the boards and sling the put along the boards, defensemen that get beat to the boards regularly on dump ins, try and leave dzone along the boards eliminating passing options. These last to games expose the wings poor game strategy. Put any defensemen in this situation and they’ll do poorly also. Good defensemen and forwards don’t put themselves in a position to fail and it’s the coaches job to see that they don’t. As for passing, every sport has coaches correct bad habits, football, baseball, football, soccer, even golf and that’s not a team sport. Blashill is not all but a big problem.

Posted by stateofmifan on 03/11/19 at 04:35 PM ET

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I refuse to believe the coach needs to teach each NHL player how to pass to a teammate. That’s part of execution.

Posted by teldar on 03/11/19 at 06:02 PM ET

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Posted by stateofmifan on 03/11/19 at 04:35 PM ET

It’s amazing then that Olympic teams can form and the players can complete passes and make plays with 1 or 2 practice sessions before games.

Posted by TreKronor on 03/11/19 at 06:04 PM ET

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Especially with someone coming back. Ugh

Posted by ilovehomers on 03/11/19 at 02:19 PM ET

hey. you leave me out of this. I have kids so my participation is streaky.

wink

Posted by howeandhowe from Seattle on 03/11/19 at 06:25 PM ET

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Posted by TreKronor on 03/11/19 at 06:04 PM
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What I’m saying is passes, constantly bouncing, rolling, blind that get intercepted,, as in my scenario players that are never in the clear and passes trying to be completed anyways that get picked off or at least up for possession are caused by players in a position to fail. The last two games, I don’t care what players you have on your team you’re not going to complete a pass if no one is open. The term would be SNOOKERED. You don’t have a shot because you’re rarely ever in position. QBs can’t complete passes either if everyone is covered. That’s a coach allowing his players to constantly put themselves in a position to fail.

Posted by stateofmifan on 03/11/19 at 06:47 PM ET

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What no takers on this:

To MC Holland and the Apologist Crew!

Here is a challenge if you would like to embark:
1. Since 2010 season, what has been Ken Hollands Top 3 FA signings?
2. Since 2010 Season, what has been the Top 3 Trades for players (not picks as in the Tatar trade. A player or players.).

I feel Holland Co. has done decently well in the draft, especially considering their draft positions up until the last 3 seasons.

Thanks for playing.

Posted by damndog revenge From the bowels of Detroit on 03/11/19 at 09:18 PM ET

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