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The Wings Could Be Quiet On Monday

from Ansar Khan of Mlive,

So, Monday’s trade deadline could be fairly quiet for the Red Wings and largely uneventful throughout the NHL.

“It doesn’t feel like there will be much action this year,” Red Wings coach Jeff Blashill said. “Listening to a number of reports and knowing the flat salary cap -- I know when I talked to other teams how tight everybody is -- it’s going to be really difficult for people to make moves.

“The economics of the whole thing, there’s no fans in the stands at most places and it’s hard to just bring in money just to bring in money. You throw on top of that, the whole aspect with the coronavirus and the quarantines that can be required, certainly if you’re going into Canada, I don’t know that the trade deadline this year is as big a deal as it’s been in past years at all.”

General manager Steve Yzerman will continue looking to move impending UFAs for picks and there should at least be some interest in players with low salaries, like forwards Bobby Ryan ($1 million cap hit) and Sam Gagner ($850,000) and defenseman Jon Merrill ($925,000).

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trades are hard?

Posted by ilovehomers on 04/07/21 at 04:20 PM ET

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I think other teams holding players out (ie Taylor Hall) is an indication that movement is being talked about.

Retaining salary/cap, Wings have space to take back a bad contract, I dont think this year exempts Yzerman from shipping some guys out.

Posted by ilovehomers on 04/07/21 at 04:26 PM ET

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...there should at least be some interest in players with low salaries, like forwards Bobby Ryan ($1 million cap hit) and Sam Gagner ($850,000) and defenseman Jon Merrill ($925,000).

Based on his play in the last few weeks, I would think there would be some interest in Erne as well. He’s a physical player who can play on almost any line as well as on the PP.

Posted by OlderThanChelios from Grand Rapids, MI on 04/07/21 at 06:38 PM ET

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Devils retained 50% of salary for Palmieri and Zajac to facilitate a deal.

There is no excuse not to move players.

Posted by ilovehomers on 04/07/21 at 08:07 PM ET

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The whole excuse… I mean, “reason” for signing those old vets was to be able to flip them at the deadline. I’ll be thoroughly disappointed if at least two of Staal/Gagner/Fil/Ryan/Erne/whomever else im forgetting aren’t dealt in the next few days.

Posted by TreKronor on 04/07/21 at 08:17 PM ET

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Erne isn’t an old vet, he’s 25.

Posted by ChillDistiller from Michigan on 04/07/21 at 10:09 PM ET

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We should have no excuse in the sense of being willing and able
to retain money and being willing and able to utilize cos space as a middle
team in a 3-way deal. Or in taking back a bad or equivalent (short term)
contract for picks/a prospect. Or in acquiring a young veteran certain to be lost
by their current team in expansion. Maximum retention of some of the cheap one year deals signed last Summer ought to help.

But we have a bunch of really just ok veteran players.
Even if the cost to another team in money or space is negligible,
do they want to bother spending any pick on a low upside addition?
They’ll have to like the player and the price to trade at all - and it’ll take a couple to a few teams wanting the same player for the price to budge much.
I’m not dismissing 4-5-6th picks but it’ll take a market to get much more for other than Bernier and Glendening.

Posted by lefty.30 on 04/07/21 at 10:59 PM ET

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Well, if there aren’t any takers for :Ryan, Ganger,  Staal…et all. Then I hope it was worth having their veteran presence clogging up the lineup , and another wasted season.  hmmm

Posted by Down River Dan on 04/07/21 at 11:02 PM ET

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trades are hard?

Posted by ilovehomers on 04/07/21 at 04:20 PM ET

+1
Thought the same exact thing after reading the non-sense.

The whole excuse… I mean, “reason” for signing those old vets was to be able to flip them at the deadline. I’ll be thoroughly disappointed if at least two of Staal/Gagner/Fil/Ryan/Erne/whomever else im forgetting aren’t dealt in the next few days.

Posted by TreKronor on 04/07/21 at 08:17 PM ET

Shhh! You’re starting to sound like me maybe even worse by including Fil. If he gets traded that’ll be newsworthy. But Staal, Ryan, and Glendening should all be moved no excuses. And just because you sell vets doesn’t mean you shouldn’t be acquiring young players for pennies before Seattle takes them for nothing.

Well, if there aren’t any takers for :Ryan, Ganger,  Staal…et all. Then I hope it was worth having their veteran presence clogging up the lineup , and another wasted season.  hmmm

Posted by Down River Dan on 04/07/21 at 11:02 PM ET

I would leave Staal off this list as remember he was acquired with a 2nd round draft pick for basically nothing. But agree with the sentiment.
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I think the tempering of expectations is fine, as the finances and internal caps seem to be a big issue to normalcy. However, that should make a few of the Wings players even more attractive to trade for as they are on reasonable expiring contracts with a team that can retain 50% salary with a equitable offer.

Glendening is a guy around 63% on the faceoffs and an effective PK player could very well be the difference in a series. Minimum worth 3rd round pick. 2nd rounder in 2022 if 50% retained (1.5M so approx 750k left which could be as low as 375k).

Staal at 50% is worth a 3rd round pick as a rental. His actual salary is only 3.2M because his bonus was already paid by the Rangers (so approx 1.6M left which could be approx 800k to a suitor). It’s his cap hit that will be the issue.

Ryan worth a b prospect as a rental. Salary 1M (so approx 500k left which could be as low as 250k to a suitor).

I just don’t see a budget on these top playoff teams that would preclude any of these three.
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Posted by d ca on 04/08/21 at 12:28 AM ET

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Palmeri and Zajac to Islanders for 1st in 2021 and conditional 4th in 2022.

Posted by VPalmer on 04/08/21 at 09:32 AM ET

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Devils retained 50% of salary for Palmieri and Zajac to facilitate a deal.

There is no excuse not to move players.

It’s easy to say that when it isn’t your money. It’s up to the Illitch’s to decide if they want to spend more money for the the draft picks/prospects they’d be getting in return. I would certainly HOPE they would but but it isn’t hard to imagine why they wouldn’t.

 

Posted by evileye on 04/08/21 at 09:58 AM ET

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Now I wait on the article from the other end of the spectrum:

“The Wings Could Be Loud on Monday”

Nobody knows for certain and Blashill isn’t exactly the best guy to ask since it’s the GMs working the trades.

I really expect more of the buyers to be out West and in Canada. Vegas, Colorado, Toronto, and Winnipeg all see perhaps their best opportunity in front of them NOW. Minnesota and Edmonton to a lesser extent.

In the Central/East now that the Islanders have made their move, I only see Florida as a team that needs to make a move and probably has the desire to. But they are less reluctant because they are still trying to build for the long-term. Boston might make a push simply because their roster could be nearing the end of their window of opportunity. Washington doesn’t have to add but might want to.

That’s a lot different than having 20 or so teams making moves just hoping to get into the playoffs. Instead you’ve got a handful of teams willing to make moves to increase their chances of winning the Cup.

Posted by evileye on 04/08/21 at 10:36 AM ET

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