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The Season Outlook For Trevor Daley

from Ansar Khan of Mlive,

Daley is an important part of a defense that often struggles to get the puck out of its zone and commits too many turnovers. He is a terrific skater who moves the puck well, getting it quickly to the forwards.

The left shooter is more comfortable playing on the right side and his ability to transport the puck takes pressure off his defense partner. Daley was slated to be paired with Danny DeKeyser last season, before DeKeyser missed five weeks with an early season ankle injury. Daley spent much of the season paired with Jonathan Ericsson.

The Red Wings signed Daley last summer at a reasonable cap hit, valuing his mobility and experience over younger players such as Joe Hicketts, Robbie Russo and Dylan McIlrath of the Grand Rapids Griffins.

If the Red Wings are out of the playoff picture in late February, they might opt to move Daley, whose no-trade clause expires 10 days before the deadline. He wouldn't be a rental, having one more year remaining on his deal, so a playoff-caliber club would have him for two postseasons, increasing his value.

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What?

a playoff-caliber club would have him for two postseasons, increasing his value

Only if the team has room for him for 2 seasons. This makes him not a rental. Not sure I see that increasing his value.

Posted by teldar on 08/09/18 at 06:55 AM ET

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This makes him not a rental.

That’s probably why the writer said “He wouldn’t be a rental”.

Not sure I see that increasing his value.

Well, having him for two playoff runs is better than having him for one.

I’m not sure how you’re not seeing that increasing his value.

Posted by CharDeeMacDennis on 08/09/18 at 08:33 AM ET

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It seems a lot of teams making a playoff run are capped out. They usually want to add someone on an expiring contact at the trade deadline. Because they can afford him at that point. Daley can’t be traded midseason because of his ntc.

So… His contact isn’t expiring but his ntc does. This means the team trading for him had to have his salary for an additional entire year. Which they might not be able to do. Maybe it makes him more valuable, but to a much smaller group of teams. I.e. those which can take his contract for an entire year. Which might make him less valuable.

Posted by teldar on 08/09/18 at 08:41 AM ET

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It seems a lot of teams making a playoff run are capped out.

Right, but teams for teams that aren’t capped out, getting two years out of a solid middle-pair guy who isn’t terrible expensive is a better than getting him for one playoff run.

Which they might not be able to do. Maybe it makes him more valuable, but to a much smaller group of teams. I.e. those which can take his contract for an entire year.

I don’t think anyone is suggesting he’d be valuable to teams that don’t have to room to fit him under the cap.

Posted by CharDeeMacDennis on 08/09/18 at 09:26 AM ET

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With Kronwall likely (?) out the door after this season, I can’t imagine them moving Daley with another year left on his contract.  He’s probably the steadiest Dman on the team (outside of Kronwall, depending on the night) and would help provide a LITTLE bit of stability while the youngsters are finding their footing.

Posted by TreKronor on 08/09/18 at 12:53 PM ET

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who were you guys watching? he wasn’t good last year.

Posted by Chet from twitter: thegansen on 08/09/18 at 12:56 PM ET

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Wonder if we will see more of Blashill activating the D to join plays.

It’s not a bad contract exactly.

But it seems almost radical by Holland’s standards to go into
2019-2020 with only three veteran D, assuming they don’t resign Jensen. Could see Holland going right up to the start of the NTC clause before exploring anything and then, later, saying, well he had trade protection so our hands were tied…

Moving Nyqust and Daley and doing so proactively would be a real sign
Holland is moving forward with a rebuild.

Then again, if he traded Daley is there any guarantee he wouldn’t sign another veteran
in the offseason? 

Am very curious how Sulak looks and if he gets a real chance at cracking this roster.

Posted by Lefty30 on 08/09/18 at 04:33 PM ET

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Moving Nyqust and Daley and doing so proactively would be a real sign
Holland is moving forward with a rebuild.

Then again, if he traded Daley is there any guarantee he wouldn’t sign another veteran
in the offseason?

Posted by Lefty30 on 08/09/18 at 05:33 PM ET

Agreed! Would love to see Nyquist moved in a deal similar to Tatar’s, but obviously with less of a return given pending UFA status. Would love to see a Green move attempted again the following year, and Daley this year. SO MANY DRAFT PICKS! However, with the state of our defense, and Kronwall being near the end, I don’t necessarily have my hopes up that any veteran defensemen will get traded.

And no, there’s NEVER a guarantee Holland won’t sign veterans. In fact it’s almost a guarantee that he will. The best way I assuage my anxiety over the log-jams is the hope that there really is something to the culture and kids slowly competing for a spot “thing,” as well as hoping that the veterans get signed short term and can be moved for picks. If Holland keeps signing 1-2 year vet deals, and keeps getting a return on them, I won’t complain.

Posted by dreamsofhope from Colorado on 08/10/18 at 02:37 PM ET

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